Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote: > Greetings OM-heads, > I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here > with me from the US. > I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but > works in just every other phone I've put it in. > I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
"Steve \" 'dillo\" Okay" writes: > Could this be an OS/distro problem? Could this be a "never upgraded GSM Firmware" problem? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
Michele Renda ha scritto: > On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote: >> Greetings OM-heads, >> I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here >> with me from the US. >> I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but >> works in just every other phone I've put it in. >> > I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and > no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. > > It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone Italy. Maybe you have a 64K... -- Federico Belvisi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote: > I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried > was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). > Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone > Italy. > > Maybe you have a 64K... > I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3 It is the first time I listened sim problem with FR in Italy. I can tested with a Wind sim and was running too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
I live in Italy. I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't work with the Freerunner. Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Federico Belvisi wrote: > Michele Renda ha scritto: > > On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote: > >> Greetings OM-heads, > >> I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here > >> with me from the US. > >> I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but > >> works in just every other phone I've put it in. > >> > > I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and > > no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. > > > > It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. > > I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I > tried > was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). > Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone > Italy. > > Maybe you have a 64K... > > -- > Federico Belvisi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On 22/02/2009 17:26, Giovanni wrote: > I live in Italy. > I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't > work with the Freerunner. > Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well. May be is a Vodafone 128Kb sim related problem. Someone of you tried to upgrade the Gsm firmware? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On Feb 22, 2009, at 17:21 , Michele Renda wrote: > On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote: >> I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last >> time I tried >> was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). >> Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), >> Vodafone Italy. >> >> Maybe you have a 64K... >> > I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3 This is precisely what I have. It is a 64K SIM, bought from a Vodafone shop in Trieste. I installed it yesterday, it asked for me to enter the PIN, which I did, but ever since then I simply get the single star for the GSM signal strength(I'm running Illume) and when I go to the Dialer to make a call, I get a "SIM missing" error(even though it's installed and locked into it's carrier). I put it into a friend's Nokia N95 and it works fine. I put his AT&T SIM into my FR and it picked up the Wind network. I also tried the Vodafone 64K SIM in a ZTE 125 and it registered with a Slovenian Voda tower (some interesting multipath going on there) and was able to make calls/texts. So I'm thinking it has to be something with my FR. I've been using it for almost a month now with a T-Mobile SIM and this is the first time I've had a problem. I'll look at the GSM firmware flashing article on the Wiki. I think I'm going to go get another SIM, like a Wind or TIM and see if that works. Thanks Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On Feb 22, 2009, at 16:36 , Michele Renda wrote: > On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote: >> Greetings OM-heads, >> I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here >> with me from the US. >> I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but >> works in just every other phone I've put it in. >> > I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and > no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. > > It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. Well, it's certainly brand new as I just bought it from the shop yesterday. I don't know when it was made though. The card that the SIM and PIN scratcher are on has the markings: SIM 64K 14.51 Verona1 I hope that helps, Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
> Greetings OM-heads, > I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here > with me from the US. > I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but > works in just every other phone I've put it in. > > Can anybody recommend a Euro SIM/carrier that is known to work in a > GTA02, preferably if you know it works in Italy. My wind card works without the GSM modem firmware update. > > Could this be an OS/distro problem? I'm running OM-2008-12 with > Konfigurator. > Are there any command-line utilities I can use to get diagnostics or > info on the SIM itself ? > The GUI simply says "SIM missing" or "Not registered" with no further > details. > > Thanks, > Steve it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
"GNUtoo" writes: > it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise > you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you > makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem That's a lie. You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
> "GNUtoo" writes: >> it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise >> you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you >> makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem > > That's a lie. sorry that was not intentional...so we should change the wiki as there is that: Warning: there are chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem on messing around with FLUID! Please watch out for typos! at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing > > You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. > > Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a > practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed > for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. > > Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the > new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to > hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all > known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. thanks a lot...I think I'll upgrade ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
"GNUtoo" writes: >> "GNUtoo" writes: >>> it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise >>> you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you >>> makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem >> >> That's a lie. > sorry that was not intentional... I know, sorry if i was a bit too harsh. >so we should change the wiki as there is that: Warning: there are >chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem on messing around with >FLUID! Please watch out for typos! Hm, this is almost correct. See "messing around"? It's not like inaccurate typing is messing around. It takes some dedication to really destroy calibration data. And "watch out for typos" is an unrelated note. :) I agree it sounds a bit too scary (as one can imply that typos are equivalent to messing around but it's not). > thanks a lot...I think I'll upgrade Feel free to ask at IRC in case you need any additional guidance. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
Hi guys, I received the Freerunner today and I went trough the same issues with a 128KB Vodafone SIM. All you have to do is to follow (as suggested) _carefully_ this guide [0] and I can confirm that your brad new vodafone SIM will start working properly. Bye, Takke [0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Recommended-SIM-for-Italy---tp2367876p2381326.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)
> > From: Paul Fertser > Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00 > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? > Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion > > > > "GNUtoo" writes: >> it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I >> advise >> you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you >> makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem > > That's a lie. > > You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. > > Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a > practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed > for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. > > Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the > new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to > hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all > known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. Thanks Paul, I'm trying to flash my GSM firmware and running into a problem. I get to the point where I run the fluid command line and it just sits there. Here are the steps I'm taking for doing the flashing. I'm following the docs on the wiki at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing. After I get the Bootloader: (reset target) message, I run "s3c24xx-gpio b7=1" in another xterm, ssh'ed into the FR. and the main window just sits there. Here's the output of what I'm typing in the main window: r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo "a...@poff" >/dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h fluid.exe \ -oO -b 115200\ -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0- moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo "a...@poff" >/dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h fluid.exe -oo -b 57600 -f /home/root/gsm_ ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo "a...@poff" >/dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) Help ? How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the "s3c24xx- gpio b7=1" command ? The documentation makes it sound like it should happen right away. Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)
2009/2/23 Steve 'dillo Okay : > r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- > gsm.0/power_on > r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- > gsm.0/power_on > r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo "a...@poff" >/dev/ttySAC0 > r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b > 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ > ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 > FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, > 2001-2004. > Reading image file: '/home/root/ > gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok > Bootloader: (reset target) > > Help ? > How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the "s3c24xx- > gpio b7=1" command ? Hi Steve, after you see Bootloader: (reset target) you have to do r...@om-gta02:~# s3c24xx-gpio b7=1 in the second session. This worked for me with moko11-b1 :) Best Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community