Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-10-17 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Does someone know how to use .osm files with tangoGPS ?
Because lots of countries seem ready to be downloaded here :
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/

If it's not possible I think I will use osmtiles ;)
 http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz


Xavier.


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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-10-17 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does someone know how to use .osm files with tangoGPS ?
 Because lots of countries seem ready to be downloaded here :
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/

Tango doesn't use the .osm files (yet?), but Navit does...

Check out the Navit page on the wiki for instructions.

HTH!

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-10-17 Thread Fox Mulder
Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does someone know how to use .osm files with tangoGPS ?
 Because lots of countries seem ready to be downloaded here :
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/
 
 Tango doesn't use the .osm files (yet?), but Navit does...
 
 Check out the Navit page on the wiki for instructions.

Navit doesn't use osm files directly but it converts them to it's own
binary vector format.

TangoGPS uses the prerenderd png files from the osm website and i don't
know if it is possible to pre-cache them except for doing it within
tangoGPS itself. The Problem with the png files is that they are
downloaded for every zoom level because they can't be resized like the
vector format. :/

The pro of the png format is that it can display any kind of map data
(sattelite, topo, etc) while the vector format can't. But the vector
format is much smaller and can be zoomed to any level.
It would be nice if tangoGPS could use vector format for osm and png
format for the other repositories. But i think this would need too much
rework of the rendering engine. ;)

Ciao,
 Rainer

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-10-17 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/10/17 Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Does someone know how to use .osm files with tangoGPS ?
 Because lots of countries seem ready to be downloaded here :
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/

you can't use the .osm file with tango

they are text files, that need to be processed by a renderer. there
are several of these used by osm, including osmarender, mapnik and
kosmos.

it is possible to download the .osm, install the renderer and generate
your own tiles, but last i looked it wasn't for the faint-hearted.

check out svn in the openstreetmap wiki for more info; at least the
first two listed above are GPL


 If it's not possible I think I will use osmtiles ;)
 http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz


this will certainly be the easiest and quickest, although you get what
the renderer maintainer decides is important in the tiles

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-08-16 Thread Robert William Hutton
Robert William Hutton wrote:
 Before you do this, make sure you go into Config and change the cache 
 directory to something under /media/card.  By default it's in /tmp, and 
 you lose the contents of /tmp each time you reboot.

Hey is anyone else having a problem with their Cache Dir being reset to 
/tmp/Maps/OSM after every restart of tangoGPS?

I note that there's nothing in my ~/.tangogps directory.  Anyone know if 
there's anywhere else for tangoGPS config files?

-Rob

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-08-16 Thread shawnzier
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:19:15AM +1000, Robert William Hutton wrote:
 Robert William Hutton wrote:
  Before you do this, make sure you go into Config and change the cache 
  directory to something under /media/card.  By default it's in /tmp, and 
  you lose the contents of /tmp each time you reboot.
 
 Hey is anyone else having a problem with their Cache Dir being reset to 
 /tmp/Maps/OSM after every restart of tangoGPS?
I had this same problem. You have to hit the Save respository
information button after enterning the filepath.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-08-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/8/17 Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hey is anyone else having a problem with their Cache Dir being reset to
 /tmp/Maps/OSM after every restart of tangoGPS?

 I note that there's nothing in my ~/.tangogps directory.  Anyone know if
 there's anywhere else for tangoGPS config files?

no freerunner here yet to test, but under gnome on ubuntu, it's in
~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-08-14 Thread Robert William Hutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:50:30PM -0600, -stacy wrote:
 Steven Kurylo wrote:
 The tango gps documentation says Additionally you can conveniently
 pre-cache areas.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?

 I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but
 a pre-cache would be great.  Downloading all the OSM tiles and all the
 zoom levels for a 20km radios would be excellent.
 
 Just go to the area of the map that you want to download and click on
 the map. A menu should come up that has a map download option. Another
 menu will come up that asks you what zoom level (im assuming this means
 relative to the current level) that you want to download. Finally, click
 OK.

Before you do this, make sure you go into Config and change the cache 
directory to something under /media/card.  By default it's in /tmp, and 
you lose the contents of /tmp each time you reboot.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-29 Thread -stacy
Steven Kurylo wrote:
 The tango gps documentation says Additionally you can conveniently
 pre-cache areas.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
 I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but
 a pre-cache would be great.  Downloading all the OSM tiles and all the
 zoom levels for a 20km radios would be excellent.

I did a bit of searching and couldn't find one, so I wrote it.

www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz

Read the README, it is as close to documentation as your likely to get 
:-) and keep in mind that I'm a BSDite. I did compile it on an Ubuntu 
system and it seems to work. Keep in mind that the GNU getopt function 
does not behave in a POSIX friendly manner by default; if you are 
trying to pass a co-ordinate with a negative value, you will need to 
either use the -- flag or set the POSIXLY_CORRECT env. variable. See 
http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/libc/Using-Getopt.html for 
details.

-stacy

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Jeff Tickle
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:35:13 -0700
Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The tango gps documentation says Additionally you can conveniently
 pre-cache areas.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
 I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but
 a pre-cache would be great.  Downloading all the OSM tiles and all the
 zoom levels for a 20km radios would be excellent.

You can zoom out to encompass the area you want to download maps for.
Then, give the map a single tap.  From the context menu, select 'map
download'.  You can pick how many zoom levels in it should go.

Make sure to go to the Config tab and change the 'Cache Dir', because
it puts them in /tmp by default!

-Jeff


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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Steven Kurylo
 You can zoom out to encompass the area you want to download maps for.
 Then, give the map a single tap.  From the context menu, select 'map
 download'.  You can pick how many zoom levels in it should go.

When I do the single tap I only see:

friend...
point...
set position...

I don't see an option to download.  Original imagine updated today.  I
don't see anything to tell me what version of tangogps I'm running.  I
can check the cli later.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Bastian Feder
HEy,
which version oof Tangogps you are using? The one from the opkg
repository? If so deinstall it and take the ipk- file from the
Tangogps page.

hope that helps
Bastian

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can zoom out to encompass the area you want to download maps for.
 Then, give the map a single tap.  From the context menu, select 'map
 download'.  You can pick how many zoom levels in it should go.

 When I do the single tap I only see:

 friend...
 point...
 set position...

 I don't see an option to download.  Original imagine updated today.  I
 don't see anything to tell me what version of tangogps I'm running.  I
 can check the cli later.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Bastian Feder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HEy,
 which version oof Tangogps you are using? The one from the opkg
 repository? If so deinstall it and take the ipk- file from the
 Tangogps page.

Yes its from buildhost.openmoko.  I'll upgrade from the website, thanks.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Vinc Duran
Hi Jeff,
I'd like to put the maps on the SD card. Is there a sensible path on
the SD card I should use?
Vinc

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jeff Tickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:35:13 -0700
 Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The tango gps documentation says Additionally you can conveniently
 pre-cache areas.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?

 I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but
 a pre-cache would be great.  Downloading all the OSM tiles and all the
 zoom levels for a 20km radios would be excellent.

 You can zoom out to encompass the area you want to download maps for.
 Then, give the map a single tap.  From the context menu, select 'map
 download'.  You can pick how many zoom levels in it should go.

 Make sure to go to the Config tab and change the 'Cache Dir', because
 it puts them in /tmp by default!

 -Jeff


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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Jeff,
 I'd like to put the maps on the SD card. Is there a sensible path on
 the SD card I should use?

/media/card/Maps/OSM/

That's the path used in the scaredycat images.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi Vinc,

I'd like to put the maps on the SD card. Is there a sensible path on
 the SD card I should use?


Use whatever you like - all a matter of personal preference!

I used /media/mmcblk0p4/Maps/OSM as I have several partitions and most space
on the 4th, and /Maps/OSM was already typed in so I saved me that... You
might also want to add a shorter symlink but essentially that path is
entered once and never changed afterwards.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread arne anka
 /media/card/Maps/OSM/

with (my) 2007.2 that path does not point to the sd card.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /media/card/Maps/OSM/

 with (my) 2007.2 that path does not point to the sd card.

Hmmm...  odd.  It always has here.  Anyway...  you can substitute
whatever directory your card is mounted in under /media for card in
my path.  So it becomes /media/[your_card's_dir/Maps/OSM

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread arne anka
 with (my) 2007.2 that path does not point to the sd card.

 Hmmm...  odd.  It always has here.  Anyway...  you can substitute

i know. but i would like to give  a warning yell, so that anybody  
interested double checks before wondering why the rootfs runs out of space.

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread arne anka
btw: does anyone know if the tiles are persistently named, ie if i move  
the clip slightly will _all_ tiles be downloaded again? or just the new  
ones?

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread David Meder-Marouelli
Hi Arne,

I just tried it and it looks like all data is cached.

Cheers, David

arne anka schrieb:
 btw: does anyone know if the tiles are persistently named, ie if i move  
 the clip slightly will _all_ tiles be downloaded again? or just the new  
 ones?

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Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-07-24 Thread Vinc Duran
Thanks everyone. (Not trying to spam the list but being polite and
acknowledging I got good answers.)

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Stefan Fröbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Vinc,

 I'd like to put the maps on the SD card. Is there a sensible path on
 the SD card I should use?

 Use whatever you like - all a matter of personal preference!

 I used /media/mmcblk0p4/Maps/OSM as I have several partitions and most space
 on the 4th, and /Maps/OSM was already typed in so I saved me that... You
 might also want to add a shorter symlink but essentially that path is
 entered once and never changed afterwards.

 Stefan


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