Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
> few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
>   http://www.zagg.com/

Call me paranoid but I bought both invisible shield(tm) and also keep
the phone inside a leather case with a transparent window:

http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/leather_case1.jpg

There is some dust below the invisible shield but I'm bit afraid to
remove it. I use the extra case mostly since I can attach it to my
belt, it protects the phone from all sides and it makes it easy to
remove fingerprint from the screen (I don't use a stylus).

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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-29 Thread David Samblas
Chris, you have open the hunting season :-)

If you are from Spain, Portugal or Andorra you can also purcharse this
virtually indestructible protection from
http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=34

A little bit more expesive at first look but you will save in shipments
cost and mainly for Spain, a lot of headaches with our National Postal
Agency, I deliver in 24 after payment confirmation :-) in those
countries.
Rest of Europe better do it through Chris, (in this case ;-) ) 


El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 09:14 +0200, Christoph Pulster escribió:
> > The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
> > few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative
> 
> The plastic protection shipped with the Freerunner is mainly a
> shipping protection, which can be removed once you have your Openmoko in  
> hands. For everyday use, try a real screen protection. I recommand the  
> Zagg invisible Shield Full body. I sell it for 24,90 EUR
> http://www.pulster.de/engl/ 
> index.html?d__omfolie__OpenMoko_invisible_Shield_Full_Body_coverage789.h 
> tm
> 
> see pictures in the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/InvisibleShield
> 
> 
> Chris
> OpenmokoShop
> www.pulster.eu
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Leonti Bielski
I disassembled my Neo, installed protection on the screen and put everything
back.
No one is able to say it has protection because you cannot see where
protection ends and real screen begins.
So no dirt is keeped on the ends of the shield.
Maybe I will write a wiki page on it - I have some pictures of the
installing this zagg thing process.

Leonti
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Clear plastic contact wrap works for me. Cheap, replaceable and easy to
install

Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> Alastair Johnson a écrit :
>   > 
> http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
>
> I am currently using a full invisible shield protection
>
> Invisible Shield protects your device from scratches, and it does it 
> very well, but you lose a bit in good-looking aspect (in my opinion) and 
> in usability.
>
> About the body protection : as a geek I generally consider protection to 
> be more important than look, but the FreeRunner looks far better without 
> it (without:smooth and matte, with:adhesive and glossy/plastic).
>
> About the screen protection : very good protection too, but less 
> slippery. A friend of mine bought an HTC recently and fingers slide well 
> on default protection. That's not the case with the Invisible Shield, it 
> is a bit harder to use.
>
>
> Having an object that pleases you is important too... maybe I will 
> remove Invisible Shield soon.
>
> Neo1973 owners : how does your device look today ?
>
>
> Xavier.
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Re: Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread openmoko
To be honest, the zagg invisi-shield works great but it does look dirty with smudges especially on the edges of where the shields end. dirt seems to stick under the edges making it look not so good. it helps that it is a black device, but i looks much better without it.
To me, the protection is more important, so i will probably leave it on. but i might recommend just getting the screen part and not wrap the whole device like i did.
 
-Casey


Does it have any effect on keeping the screen reasonably clean from  
smudges when using a finger for input?
Cheers, 
Mike.
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Michael Sheldon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
>> few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
>>   http://www.zagg.com/
>> or
>>   http://www.screenprotector.nl/
>> for Openmoko Freerunner?
>>
> 
> Zagg provides a screen protection for the FreeRunner. I've ordered and
> received one, but haven't installed it yet.
> I have 2 coupons for 20% discount, if anyone interested. Just mail me
> directly and i'll be happy to share them.

  Does it have any effect on keeping the screen reasonably clean from 
smudges when using a finger for input?

  Cheers,
   Mike.

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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Alastair Johnson a écrit :
> Interesting. Is it less slippery because it is sticky/rubbery, or 
> because it is rough? How does it feel with a stylus?

I don't know how to describe it in English...

If you play minesweeper for example, you have to click without moving 
for 1 or 2 seconds to put a flag on a cell.
As soon as your stylus touches your screen protected by the Invisible 
Shield, stylus' tip is fixed (and it works well).
Without the protection, you have to take care to stay stable, because 
any small movement is going to make your cursor move.

A friend of mine has a FreeRunner but he has not installed the Invisible 
Shield yet. Maybe I need to try his again.




> It may not be directly comparable but the Psion 5 had a finish very 
> similar to that on the Freerunner. It was good for a while (~3 years for 
> me) but eventually started to peel around the corners. The later 5mx had 
> a paint finish instead. The Freerunner may do better as the corners 
> aren't covered in the rubbery stuff. If it does start peeling like the 
> Psion you will be able st scrape it off and have a black plastic finish 
> instead.

Thanks. I never protected my Nokia 9210 and (since 2000) it is still 
good (it has a resistant body), but the big screen is always protected 
as soon as device is closed, so it is hard to make a comparison.

Xavier.


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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Stroller

On 27 Oct 2008, at 15:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Zagg ...
> I have 2 coupons for 20% discount, if anyone interested. Just mail me
> directly and i'll be happy to share them.

Put them on the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zagg_Protection_Discount_Number

Stroller.


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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Alastair Johnson
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> About the screen protection : very good protection too, but less 
> slippery. A friend of mine bought an HTC recently and fingers slide well 
> on default protection. That's not the case with the Invisible Shield, it 
> is a bit harder to use.

Interesting. Is it less slippery because it is sticky/rubbery, or 
because it is rough? How does it feel with a stylus?

> Having an object that pleases you is important too... maybe I will 
> remove Invisible Shield soon.
> 
> Neo1973 owners : how does your device look today ?

It may not be directly comparable but the Psion 5 had a finish very 
similar to that on the Freerunner. It was good for a while (~3 years for 
me) but eventually started to peel around the corners. The later 5mx had 
a paint finish instead. The Freerunner may do better as the corners 
aren't covered in the rubbery stuff. If it does start peeling like the 
Psion you will be able st scrape it off and have a black plastic finish 
instead.

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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Cameron Frazier
They did reduce, but I installed mine months ago and there are a few
still there.   However, I admit there may have been some "operator
error".

Re: your earlier post, it is a stickier surface, making some dragging
tasks trickier, but I find it quite agreeable.

Cameron

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cameron Frazier a écrit :
>> I've installed the ZAGG cover.  Works quite well, though there are a
>> couple micro bubbles.  Very clear and cleans easily.  No clue about
>> replacement, but it's supposed to be replaceable.  Tough cover too
>>
>> Cameron
>
> Micro bubbles will disappear automagically after ~2 weeks (less humidity
> => more adhesive)
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Cameron Frazier a écrit :
> I've installed the ZAGG cover.  Works quite well, though there are a
> couple micro bubbles.  Very clear and cleans easily.  No clue about
> replacement, but it's supposed to be replaceable.  Tough cover too
> 
> Cameron

Micro bubbles will disappear automagically after ~2 weeks (less humidity 
=> more adhesive)


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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Alastair Johnson a écrit :
  > 
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I am currently using a full invisible shield protection

Invisible Shield protects your device from scratches, and it does it 
very well, but you lose a bit in good-looking aspect (in my opinion) and 
in usability.

About the body protection : as a geek I generally consider protection to 
be more important than look, but the FreeRunner looks far better without 
it (without:smooth and matte, with:adhesive and glossy/plastic).

About the screen protection : very good protection too, but less 
slippery. A friend of mine bought an HTC recently and fingers slide well 
on default protection. That's not the case with the Invisible Shield, it 
is a bit harder to use.


Having an object that pleases you is important too... maybe I will 
remove Invisible Shield soon.

Neo1973 owners : how does your device look today ?


Xavier.


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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Cameron Frazier
I've installed the ZAGG cover.  Works quite well, though there are a
couple micro bubbles.  Very clear and cleans easily.  No clue about
replacement, but it's supposed to be replaceable.  Tough cover too

Cameron

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
>> few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
>>   http://www.zagg.com/
>> or
>>   http://www.screenprotector.nl/
>> for Openmoko Freerunner?
>>
>
> Zagg provides a screen protection for the FreeRunner. I've ordered and
> received one, but haven't installed it yet.
> I have 2 coupons for 20% discount, if anyone interested. Just mail me
> directly and i'll be happy to share them.
>
>
>
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread kazer
> Hi all,
>
> The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
> few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
>   http://www.zagg.com/
> or
>   http://www.screenprotector.nl/
> for Openmoko Freerunner?
>

Zagg provides a screen protection for the FreeRunner. I've ordered and
received one, but haven't installed it yet.
I have 2 coupons for 20% discount, if anyone interested. Just mail me
directly and i'll be happy to share them.



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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-27 Thread Alastair Johnson
Pander wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
> few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
>   http://www.zagg.com/

http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

> or
>   http://www.screenprotector.nl/
> for Openmoko Freerunner?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Pander


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