Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. About two years ago I was working on getting USB Host mode working out of the box on the GP2X, and I ran into this problem - the missing cap/resistor combo meant that the USB Host controller interface wasn't able to accurately determine what sort of node it was communicating with, and thus the onboard Linux driver tried to treat it as a hub node when it was really just a 'terminal' node. I don't have a reference for you on this, just going by memory .. Can we have a keyboard with that includes batteries and supply juice to the freerunner while in host mode? That way when using the builkier setup with the keyboard plugged into the usb, it could be charging the freerunner? Or are the host mode / charging mode multually exclusive? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
On Thursday 21 August 2008, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. About two years ago I was working on getting USB Host mode working out of the box on the GP2X, and I ran into this problem - the missing cap/resistor combo meant that the USB Host controller interface wasn't able to accurately determine what sort of node it was communicating with, and thus the onboard Linux driver tried to treat it as a hub node when it was really just a 'terminal' node. I don't have a reference for you on this, just going by memory .. Can we have a keyboard with that includes batteries and supply juice to the freerunner while in host mode? That way when using the builkier setup with the keyboard plugged into the usb, it could be charging the freerunner? Or are the host mode / charging mode multually exclusive? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host You are essentially describing a variation on the three headed cable described in the wiki. A similar suggestion that has I think been done it to modify a battery powered hub to provide power to the Neo while it's in host mode. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. You should test your USB keyboard with the Freerunner, using a USB *HUB* in between, and see if that doesn't fix things. IFAICT, there are details not-yet-well-understood regarding the nature of the termination and 'pull-up' resistor normally included on standard USB Host ports which may not be included with the Freerunner hardware design - meaning a simple female/female convertor isn't going to be enough, there will need to be a cap and a resistor included in the schematic in order to make the USB Host controller onboard the Freerunner believe it is talking to a proper USB hub node. If this isn't there, the controller believes its only got a single device to talk with, physically, and in your case this isn't true - you've got two devices onboard. So, you need the cap and resistor, I bet. Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. This information used to be in the wiki on the GTA02 Hardware page but has been moved or removed. It's still in the history though: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardwareoldid=45860#USB_Host ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
For USB Hostmode to work with power from the internal battery no hardware modification nor usb-hub is needed. I found the problem why my usb keyboard doesn't work within X. I still use 2007.2 with the newest daily builds but it seems that the xserver-kdrive-glamo module is too old. There was a bug in this module which prevents an external keyboard to be used within X. The changelog says that it is fixed, but it seems that this fixed version is not in the feeds for 2007.2. :( The keyboard works fine for me when i stop X and use it just in the console. As soon as i start X again the keyboard doesn't work anymore. Here are the ticket for this problem: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 which is solved in newer versions as this log shows: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xglamo.git;a=commit;h=cddd780c527fe923c55c1fa385fd909c419f024e If someone find out how to upgrade to the newer fixed version of this module than i'm happy to try it again. :) Ciao, Rainer Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. You should test your USB keyboard with the Freerunner, using a USB *HUB* in between, and see if that doesn't fix things. IFAICT, there are details not-yet-well-understood regarding the nature of the termination and 'pull-up' resistor normally included on standard USB Host ports which may not be included with the Freerunner hardware design - meaning a simple female/female convertor isn't going to be enough, there will need to be a cap and a resistor included in the schematic in order to make the USB Host controller onboard the Freerunner believe it is talking to a proper USB hub node. If this isn't there, the controller believes its only got a single device to talk with, physically, and in your case this isn't true - you've got two devices onboard. So, you need the cap and resistor, I bet. Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. This information used to be in the wiki on the GTA02 Hardware page but has been moved or removed. It's still in the history though: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardwareoldid=45860#USB_Host ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
Hi, that was me on the planet who used the usb keyboard for various things on the Freerunner ( [1] [2] ) I'm afraid I can't really give you much help as mine just worked. Once power was applied it functioned like a usb keyboard on a desktop pc. How are you managing to connect your devices to the FreeRunner? Not much help. I know, but I can tell you about how it *should* work; basically OM2007.2 seems very keyboard friendly - whenever an application has focus you should just be able to type away at it (like the terminal in my example), you can also use the arrow keys to scroll in the application menu or simply hit m to jump straight to the mediaplayer, for example. You can also do ctrl + alt + f1 to change to a second login terminal and return to matchbox with ctrl + alt + f2. Numpty Physics works great with the keyboard shortcuts and I've sent an email or two using my employers web based email system, the keyboard and minimo. Essentially om2007.2 + keyboard = small sized linux desktop machine. There is a matchbox config file you can edit that will result in the mouse cursor being displayed - this should help your efforts there. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 [2] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080730 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i tried to use my logitech usb keyboard with the freerunner with no luck so far. I'm using 2007.2 with the latest uBoot Image and latest kernel/system updates. First i switched to usb hostmode and supplied the 5V to the usb port with the following commands. echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode After that i first tried it with an usb stick which works great. It was recognized and i could access it as /dev/sda1. So far so good. Than i tried an usb mouse even when i didn't thought i could use it, just for testing. I attached it (2x for testing) and it was recognized as hid device as shown in the log. When i move the mouse and click the left button sometimes it seems to select applications in the windowmanager, but i can't make any sensfull use with it. After that i came to the keyboard. I attached it (again 2x for testing) to the neo it shows the enumeration in the logs and no errors. But now i can't do anything with the keyboard. In an planet.openmoko.org article the keyboard is used in the terminal application. But i can't use it in any application. I can't even change the led's for numlock oder shiftlock what makes me believe that the keyboard isn't fully recognized by linux. I have no error messages like meantioned in the usb host wiki page, so i think it should work without an usb hub. Has anybody successfully used an usb keyboard attached directly to the neo and in which applications could it be used? Is there any step i'm missing after attaching the keyboard? Ciao, Rainer Log start for usb stick: Aug 18 21:53:44 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: s3c2410: changing usb to host Aug 18 21:54:53 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 119 Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device found at 119 Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access Corsair VoyagerGT1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 4046848 512-byte hardware sectors (2072 MB) Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00 Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.err kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 4046848 512-byte hardware sectors (2072 MB) Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00 Aug 18
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
I use an usb female to female adapter with the standard neo usb cable to attach the usb devices. I think the problem is the keyboard itself. The keyboard has also a mouse like scrollwheel integrated. And when i take a look in the messages log i see that two devices appear when attaching the keyboard. One keyboard and one mouse. After a few tests i can say that the keyboard part isn't working at all, but the scrollwheel (mouse part) seems to works. I can use the wheel to change between the three sections at the bottom of the screen when the focus is on them. Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. Ciao, Rainer Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi, that was me on the planet who used the usb keyboard for various things on the Freerunner ( [1] [2] ) I'm afraid I can't really give you much help as mine just worked. Once power was applied it functioned like a usb keyboard on a desktop pc. How are you managing to connect your devices to the FreeRunner? Not much help. I know, but I can tell you about how it *should* work; basically OM2007.2 seems very keyboard friendly - whenever an application has focus you should just be able to type away at it (like the terminal in my example), you can also use the arrow keys to scroll in the application menu or simply hit m to jump straight to the mediaplayer, for example. You can also do ctrl + alt + f1 to change to a second login terminal and return to matchbox with ctrl + alt + f2. Numpty Physics works great with the keyboard shortcuts and I've sent an email or two using my employers web based email system, the keyboard and minimo. Essentially om2007.2 + keyboard = small sized linux desktop machine. There is a matchbox config file you can edit that will result in the mouse cursor being displayed - this should help your efforts there. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 [2] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080730 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i tried to use my logitech usb keyboard with the freerunner with no luck so far. I'm using 2007.2 with the latest uBoot Image and latest kernel/system updates. First i switched to usb hostmode and supplied the 5V to the usb port with the following commands. echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode After that i first tried it with an usb stick which works great. It was recognized and i could access it as /dev/sda1. So far so good. Than i tried an usb mouse even when i didn't thought i could use it, just for testing. I attached it (2x for testing) and it was recognized as hid device as shown in the log. When i move the mouse and click the left button sometimes it seems to select applications in the windowmanager, but i can't make any sensfull use with it. After that i came to the keyboard. I attached it (again 2x for testing) to the neo it shows the enumeration in the logs and no errors. But now i can't do anything with the keyboard. In an planet.openmoko.org article the keyboard is used in the terminal application. But i can't use it in any application. I can't even change the led's for numlock oder shiftlock what makes me believe that the keyboard isn't fully recognized by linux. I have no error messages like meantioned in the usb host wiki page, so i think it should work without an usb hub. Has anybody successfully used an usb keyboard attached directly to the neo and in which applications could it be used? Is there any step i'm missing after attaching the keyboard? Ciao, Rainer Log start for usb stick: Aug 18 21:53:44 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: s3c2410: changing usb to host Aug 18 21:54:53 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 119 Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device found at 119 Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access Corsair VoyagerGT1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Aug 18 21:55:00 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: Driver 'sd' needs
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
I wonder if the FreeRunner is simply not supplying enough power for the keyboard? There's probably a way of finding out, but I don't know it off the top of my head. A three headed cable might fix your problems (as described on the wiki), but you're right in saying that the best test might be to use a simpler keyboard. Cheers, Joseph 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I use an usb female to female adapter with the standard neo usb cable to attach the usb devices. I think the problem is the keyboard itself. The keyboard has also a mouse like scrollwheel integrated. And when i take a look in the messages log i see that two devices appear when attaching the keyboard. One keyboard and one mouse. After a few tests i can say that the keyboard part isn't working at all, but the scrollwheel (mouse part) seems to works. I can use the wheel to change between the three sections at the bottom of the screen when the focus is on them. Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. Ciao, Rainer Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi, that was me on the planet who used the usb keyboard for various things on the Freerunner ( [1] [2] ) I'm afraid I can't really give you much help as mine just worked. Once power was applied it functioned like a usb keyboard on a desktop pc. How are you managing to connect your devices to the FreeRunner? Not much help. I know, but I can tell you about how it *should* work; basically OM2007.2 seems very keyboard friendly - whenever an application has focus you should just be able to type away at it (like the terminal in my example), you can also use the arrow keys to scroll in the application menu or simply hit m to jump straight to the mediaplayer, for example. You can also do ctrl + alt + f1 to change to a second login terminal and return to matchbox with ctrl + alt + f2. Numpty Physics works great with the keyboard shortcuts and I've sent an email or two using my employers web based email system, the keyboard and minimo. Essentially om2007.2 + keyboard = small sized linux desktop machine. There is a matchbox config file you can edit that will result in the mouse cursor being displayed - this should help your efforts there. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 [2] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080730 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i tried to use my logitech usb keyboard with the freerunner with no luck so far. I'm using 2007.2 with the latest uBoot Image and latest kernel/system updates. First i switched to usb hostmode and supplied the 5V to the usb port with the following commands. echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode After that i first tried it with an usb stick which works great. It was recognized and i could access it as /dev/sda1. So far so good. Than i tried an usb mouse even when i didn't thought i could use it, just for testing. I attached it (2x for testing) and it was recognized as hid device as shown in the log. When i move the mouse and click the left button sometimes it seems to select applications in the windowmanager, but i can't make any sensfull use with it. After that i came to the keyboard. I attached it (again 2x for testing) to the neo it shows the enumeration in the logs and no errors. But now i can't do anything with the keyboard. In an planet.openmoko.org article the keyboard is used in the terminal application. But i can't use it in any application. I can't even change the led's for numlock oder shiftlock what makes me believe that the keyboard isn't fully recognized by linux. I have no error messages like meantioned in the usb host wiki page, so i think it should work without an usb hub. Has anybody successfully used an usb keyboard attached directly to the neo and in which applications could it be used? Is there any step i'm missing after attaching the keyboard? Ciao, Rainer Log start for usb stick: Aug 18 21:53:44 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: s3c2410: changing usb to host Aug 18 21:54:53 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 119 Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.info kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Aug 18 21:54:55 IjonTichy user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device found at
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
I think the power supply isn't the problem because the mouse part works. I could also press the function key (a special led indicates the success) which sets the function keys to F1 - F12 and not to special logitech functions. On the back of the keyboard the specification says that it only needs 75mA current, which should be no problem at all. I think i will try it with a normal usb keyboard at work. Ciao, Rainer Joseph Reeves wrote: I wonder if the FreeRunner is simply not supplying enough power for the keyboard? There's probably a way of finding out, but I don't know it off the top of my head. A three headed cable might fix your problems (as described on the wiki), but you're right in saying that the best test might be to use a simpler keyboard. Cheers, Joseph 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I use an usb female to female adapter with the standard neo usb cable to attach the usb devices. I think the problem is the keyboard itself. The keyboard has also a mouse like scrollwheel integrated. And when i take a look in the messages log i see that two devices appear when attaching the keyboard. One keyboard and one mouse. After a few tests i can say that the keyboard part isn't working at all, but the scrollwheel (mouse part) seems to works. I can use the wheel to change between the three sections at the bottom of the screen when the focus is on them. Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. Ciao, Rainer Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi, that was me on the planet who used the usb keyboard for various things on the Freerunner ( [1] [2] ) I'm afraid I can't really give you much help as mine just worked. Once power was applied it functioned like a usb keyboard on a desktop pc. How are you managing to connect your devices to the FreeRunner? Not much help. I know, but I can tell you about how it *should* work; basically OM2007.2 seems very keyboard friendly - whenever an application has focus you should just be able to type away at it (like the terminal in my example), you can also use the arrow keys to scroll in the application menu or simply hit m to jump straight to the mediaplayer, for example. You can also do ctrl + alt + f1 to change to a second login terminal and return to matchbox with ctrl + alt + f2. Numpty Physics works great with the keyboard shortcuts and I've sent an email or two using my employers web based email system, the keyboard and minimo. Essentially om2007.2 + keyboard = small sized linux desktop machine. There is a matchbox config file you can edit that will result in the mouse cursor being displayed - this should help your efforts there. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 [2] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080730 2008/8/19 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i tried to use my logitech usb keyboard with the freerunner with no luck so far. I'm using 2007.2 with the latest uBoot Image and latest kernel/system updates. First i switched to usb hostmode and supplied the 5V to the usb port with the following commands. echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode After that i first tried it with an usb stick which works great. It was recognized and i could access it as /dev/sda1. So far so good. Than i tried an usb mouse even when i didn't thought i could use it, just for testing. I attached it (2x for testing) and it was recognized as hid device as shown in the log. When i move the mouse and click the left button sometimes it seems to select applications in the windowmanager, but i can't make any sensfull use with it. After that i came to the keyboard. I attached it (again 2x for testing) to the neo it shows the enumeration in the logs and no errors. But now i can't do anything with the keyboard. In an planet.openmoko.org article the keyboard is used in the terminal application. But i can't use it in any application. I can't even change the led's for numlock oder shiftlock what makes me believe that the keyboard isn't fully recognized by linux. I have no error messages like meantioned in the usb host wiki page, so i think it should work without an usb hub. Has anybody successfully used an usb keyboard attached directly to the neo and in which applications could it be used? Is there any step i'm missing after attaching the keyboard? Ciao, Rainer Log start for usb stick: Aug 18 21:53:44 IjonTichy user.warn kernel: s3c2410: changing usb to host Aug 18 21:54:53 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 119 Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.info kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 18 21:54:54 IjonTichy user.notice kernel: SCSI subsystem
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
Now i tested it with an usb hub but the behaviour is the same. In the log it shows that it found the hub and after attaching the keyboard it found both hid devices (keyboard and mouse). But again only the mouse part works and the keyboard does nothing. The log doesn't show any relevant difference when i connect the keyboard through the hub compared to directly attached. Ciao, Rainer PS: The keyboard works with windows without any special driver. ;) Jay Vaughan wrote: Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. You should test your USB keyboard with the Freerunner, using a USB *HUB* in between, and see if that doesn't fix things. IFAICT, there are details not-yet-well-understood regarding the nature of the termination and 'pull-up' resistor normally included on standard USB Host ports which may not be included with the Freerunner hardware design - meaning a simple female/female convertor isn't going to be enough, there will need to be a cap and a resistor included in the schematic in order to make the USB Host controller onboard the Freerunner believe it is talking to a proper USB hub node. If this isn't there, the controller believes its only got a single device to talk with, physically, and in your case this isn't true - you've got two devices onboard. So, you need the cap and resistor, I bet. Easiest way to get them: put a USB hub in between, and see if that makes things better. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
I think i found the problem why the keyboard isn't working. I went to a friend and after a few tests with his usb keyboard we found out, that the keyboard works, but only within the console and not in the X environment. After a short search i found a ticket which exactly describes my problem: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 which is related to http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xglamo.git;a=commit;h=cddd780c527fe923c55c1fa385fd909c419f024e As solution zecke meantioned to upgrade to the latest Xglamo version which fixes this bug. But for my currently installed 2007.2 the latest version in the repository is xserver-kdrive-glamo-1:1.3.0.0+git1+4067470ea4d569bae7b4161ca998645a0c9b96e7-r6 which seems to be broken. And i don't want to install 2008.8 because it lacks too much at the moment. So how could i update my xserver-kdrive-glamo to a newer version where the usb keyboard problem is fixed? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
