Re: Where is the tangoGPS community? (was: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator)
Apologies for reviving a 3-month-old thread I'm not actually interested in the `Marcus vs. Risto' fight; but this thread did raise some questions for me about how I should go about being part of to the tangoGPS developer community, myself--mainly, *is* there actually a developer community, and where is it? More specifically...: Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:12:45 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: I think it was nothing else just a desperate try to build a community around tangogps [...] as apparently you failed to do it. Ah, allrighty! It is just that tangoGPS has a community of more than 100.000 users, of more than 25 distributions, of people packaging it, people twittering about it, people blogging about it, people discussing it in forums... The tangoGPS friendservice has been used almost half a million times and the messaging is frequently used too. There has been an article on Linux.com about tangoGPS and another one in the Linux Magazine. I'd say the tangoGPS community is bigger than the openmoko community :-P Those are all measures only of an end-user community. Having a large, thriving end-user community *is* excellent, and also important--so I'd like to both congratulate you and thank you for that accomplishment! However: I'd like to know where the *developer* community is for tangoGPS-- and please don't take that the wrong way, there's nothing backhanded in that remark; really, I'm interested in developing tangoGPS, and communicating and collaborating with other likeminded people. I have a set of patches, already--what should I do with them? Where should I post them for posterity? Where is the mailing list? Is there an IRC channel? Is there a wiki? Is there a bug-tracker? Is there a public version-control archive? Where are all of these things? -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the tangoGPS community? (was: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator)
On Saturday 10 April 2010 15:59:04 Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: I have a set of patches, already--what should I do with them? Where should I post them for posterity? Where is the mailing list? Is there an IRC channel? Is there a wiki? Is there a bug-tracker? Is there a public version-control archive? Where are all of these things? No. Just email your patches to Marcus Bauer. Expect no reply nor use of patches. But, you don't have the right to complain. You have the right to fork, though. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the tangoGPS community?
Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: However: I'd like to know where the *developer* community is for tangoGPS-- and please don't take that the wrong way, there's nothing backhanded in that remark; really, I'm interested in developing tangoGPS, and communicating and collaborating with other likeminded people. I have a set of patches, already--what should I do with them? I keep my patches in http://iki.fi/lindi/git/tangogps.git/ Currently I only have a set of patches that add support for libgps. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573848 Is there an IRC channel? There is #tangogps which is of course completely unofficial :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the tangoGPS community?
Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: Do you know where I can find an official upstream git (or other VC) repository, then? I haven't been able to figure out where Marcus' is, There's no such thing available publicly afaik. I've been using Bazaar, and have initialised my own repository from a release tarball, which kind-of stinks. It looks like there are actually some things missing from the tarballs, which stinks more :( I branched my libgps branch from git.debian.org git tree that has all the tarballs and debian changes in different branches. Using a different version control system didn't sound like a good idea so I stayed with git. Currently I only have a set of patches that add support for libgps. I have a patch that makes it possible to scale the details on maps (e.g.: text, icons, line-widths) and change the amount of detail shown without zooming the map; and another patch that adds VisualIDs http://scribblethink.org/Work/VisualIDs/visualids.html for POIs. How can it do that? I thought tangogps only shows bitmap data? Also, if I understand correctly, Marcus is somewhat hostile toward that channel--certainly he doesn't use it himself; and it seems at least somewhat strange to be building a community around something that the upstream maintainer has himself deprecated. So, I was wondering if--even hoping that--there was some other venue that was preferred by upstream; if #tangogps is *competing* with some `more official' venue, then it seems kind-of lousy to fracture the community like that. I have never heard of any other IRC channel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the tangoGPS community?
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: Do you know where I can find an official upstream git (or other VC) repository, then? I haven't been able to figure out where Marcus' is, There's no such thing available publicly afaik. I've been using Bazaar, and have initialised my own repository from a release tarball, which kind-of stinks. It looks like there are actually some things missing from the tarballs, which stinks more :( I branched my libgps branch from git.debian.org git tree that has all the tarballs and debian changes in different branches. Using a different version control system didn't sound like a good idea so I stayed with git. Currently I only have a set of patches that add support for libgps. I have a patch that makes it possible to scale the details on maps (e.g.: text, icons, line-widths) and change the amount of detail shown without zooming the map; and another patch that adds VisualIDs http://scribblethink.org/Work/VisualIDs/visualids.html for POIs. How can it do that? I'm very clever. :) I thought tangogps only shows bitmap data? That's correct. The trick is that, since the pre-rendered tile-images are rendered such that line-widths, text-size, icon-size, etc. are all constant across `zoom' levels when displayed at a consistent pixel- density..., I can basically just select a `more zoomed-out' set of tiles, and scale them up by the same (but inverse) amount before displaying them. So, when you select `fewer, bigger details', the code just decreases *pixel-density* and a `zoom-level offset' adjusted accordingly. The map remains at the same zoom-level; but the text and icons get bigger, the streets and other lines get wider; the amount of visual `clutter' decreases, and information-clarity goes up. If you select `more, smaller details', the pixel-density is increased and the zoom-offset adjusted in the other direction. Again, the map remains at the same zoom-level; but the text and icons get smaller, the streets and other lines become thinner; the amount of information visible at a given zoom-level (the information-density) increases. I posted a copy of this patch to this list and CC'd Marcus (not knowing what else to do with it), back in November, in Message-ID 87vdhtaral.fsf%40slice.rozzin.com: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/52188 I haven't bothered posting the VisualIDs patch anywhere yet-- just a write-up, along with some screenshots, on my weblog. But I can post that code, too, if anyone's interested in it. I don't know--maybe we should post these things to Risto's `foss-gps' mail list :) Just *somewhere* where they don't get lost in the cacophony Also, if I understand correctly, Marcus is somewhat hostile toward that channel--certainly he doesn't use it himself; and it seems at least somewhat strange to be building a community around something that the upstream maintainer has himself deprecated. So, I was wondering if--even hoping that--there was some other venue that was preferred by upstream; if #tangogps is *competing* with some `more official' venue, then it seems kind-of lousy to fracture the community like that. I have never heard of any other IRC channel. Well, I guess I'll see you on #tangogps until we hear otherwise. -rozzin. -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
