Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-18 Thread Jay Vaughan

There may not be a built-in way to activate it, but it'll be in
there... it's part of bluez. It may require some 3rd party work to
make it easy to get at.



SettingsGUI has a bit of a start at making this viable .. I imagine  
once things settle down with the release, this feature will flesh out  
pretty rapidly.  I know quite a few people  (myself included) who  
would like to use their GPRS accounts with the Freerunner/neo1973,  
and if it weren't for the fact that my neo is currently *always*  
unusable because of my non-stable development work, I'd be using it  
as a replacement for my current USB HDSPA dongle, which sucks the  
cool out of my EEEPC by giving me a dongly tether to deal with on the  
train.  It'd be much better if my EEEPC could talk wirelessly to my  
OM phone, and have the OM phone be the Internet router I've always  
dreamed of ..


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Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-17 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
It should be possible over GPRS

On 4/17/08, Philip M. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all.  Like many others, I am eagerly awaiting the release of
 Freerunner.  A showstopper, however, would be if Freerunner could not
 support Dial-Up Networking.

 Right now I have a Samsung SGH-T509 phone that allows me to tether my
 laptop to it over a proprietary serial-USB or a Bluetooth connection.
 Once I physically connect the phone to my laptop, the phone appears as a
 serial dial-up modem.  Then it's a simple matter of dialing a special
 number that T-Mobile provides me with, and I get an IP address.

 Does Freerunner's firmware/software support this feature?

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Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-17 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't
have a Wireless network card? Well...

You get the idea :)
Cheers,
Federico

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It should be possible over GPRS



  On 4/17/08, Philip M. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi, all.  Like many others, I am eagerly awaiting the release of
   Freerunner.  A showstopper, however, would be if Freerunner could not
   support Dial-Up Networking.
  
   Right now I have a Samsung SGH-T509 phone that allows me to tether my
   laptop to it over a proprietary serial-USB or a Bluetooth connection.
   Once I physically connect the phone to my laptop, the phone appears as a
   serial dial-up modem.  Then it's a simple matter of dialing a special
   number that T-Mobile provides me with, and I get an IP address.
  
   Does Freerunner's firmware/software support this feature?
  
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Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-17 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On to, 2008-04-17 at 17:48 +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
 Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't
 have a Wireless network card? Well...

Indeed. The great thing about an open phone like this is that it's
possible, for simpler cases even easy to network it any way you like (it
does get a little more complex the more interfaces you want to use, and
of course, writing a good GUI interface to support the flexibility might
be hard...)

Anyway, as to the original question, yeah, want to use the phone's GPRS
connection over Bluetooth DUN and/or BNEP? Not a problem. Want to use
the connection through a USB cable? Sure. Over an ad-hoc wifi network
(sadly, FreeRunner's chip not supporting access point mode)? Why not.
Use FreeRunner's Wifi interface from the USB-attached computer to talk
to a local wireless network? Yeah, that's what you already implied ;)

All of the above, simultaneously? But of course! Expect to tune a bit
though.

Presumably the OM guys or Somebody(TM) will crack up a light GUI for the
simple cases of BT and USB tethering. Since this is slightly relevant,
I'll mention some braindumping of mine and some others on the wiki on
the subject: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:USB_Networking

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Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-17 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey

 Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't
  have a Wireless network card? Well...

There may not be a built-in way to activate it, but it'll be in
there... it's part of bluez. It may require some 3rd party work to
make it easy to get at.

The bluez daemon for this, dund, stands in as a virtual modem, so the
underlying network connection could be provided by gprs, wifi, pan, or
even another dun. For contrast, the windows mobile dun service
apparently connects the client directly to the gsm chip so it rules
out a lot of possibilities.

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Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?

2008-04-17 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On to, 2008-04-17 at 10:20 -0600, Brad Midgley wrote:
 The bluez daemon for this, dund, stands in as a virtual modem, so the
 underlying network connection could be provided by gprs, wifi, pan, or
 even another dun.

Oh my. Indeed, I forgot to mention another fun example of what you can
do, which you touch upon here: Have the FreeRunner share its wifi access
with a nearby 1973 through bluetooth ;)

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