Re: application idea -- anti theft system
you prolly want to lock down the uboot screen, etc. to prevent the phone from just being re-imaged. It would prolly require the debug board if you forgot the password. -Kyle On 10/14/07, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steve wrote: > > > You may want to do the opposite. Your phone may think it's being stolen > > if you happen to get on something like a wireless connection with > > NoCatSplash. (Which hijacks the first attempt to grab a web page in > > order to show you a welcome page.) > > > > I'd be tempted to have PGP signed stolen/not stolen pages to alleviate > > any ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored. > > Better yet, have the phone activate a Servlet or CGI that saves the IP > address from the request (and pass the GPS info if the device has a fix) > every so often? On a Laptop you'd do this at bootup time + 15m (to give > the thief time to get past the NoCatSplash or its equivalents. On a > Phone, maybe once an hour out of cron? > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea -- anti theft system
Steve wrote: You may want to do the opposite. Your phone may think it's being stolen if you happen to get on something like a wireless connection with NoCatSplash. (Which hijacks the first attempt to grab a web page in order to show you a welcome page.) I'd be tempted to have PGP signed stolen/not stolen pages to alleviate any ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored. Better yet, have the phone activate a Servlet or CGI that saves the IP address from the request (and pass the GPS info if the device has a fix) every so often? On a Laptop you'd do this at bootup time + 15m (to give the thief time to get past the NoCatSplash or its equivalents. On a Phone, maybe once an hour out of cron? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea -- anti theft system
On 14 Oct 2007, at 19:52, Steve wrote: Stroller wrote: ... IMO if I'm too far away from the phone to notice someone nicking it then I'm unlikely to hear it making an alarm sound. I would have it instead check http://mywebsite.com/theft.txt and if it doesn't get a 404 (i.e. you only put the file there when the phone has been stolen) then have it email you its GPS position. [...] You may want to do the opposite. Your phone may think it's being stolen if you happen to get on something like a wireless connection with NoCatSplash. (Which hijacks the first attempt to grab a web page in order to show you a welcome page.) Oooh, I see. (It took me a couple of tries, thinking about it - I'm glad I got it without sending those replies ;) I'd be tempted to have PGP signed stolen/not stolen pages to alleviate any ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored. This is probably the best way, although it probably places the bar beyond my programming skills. Stroller. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea -- anti theft system
Stroller wrote: > > On 13 Oct 2007, at 00:09, Derek Pressnall wrote: > >> I have an idea for a simple alarm application. The idea is that if >> you leave your phone sitting at your desk plugged in charging, then >> you can activate an app that will play an alrarm sound as soon as the >> devices is unplugged (with a popup keypad to enter a disarm code). >> >> A variant would use the gps to determine if the phone has moved more >> than a few feet from where you left it. > > I can think of lots of other ways to implement anti-theft measures in > this phone. > > IMO if I'm too far away from the phone to notice someone nicking it then > I'm unlikely to hear it making an alarm sound. > > I would have it instead check http://mywebsite.com/theft.txt and if it > doesn't get a 404 (i.e. you only put the file there when the phone has > been stolen) then have it email you its GPS position. [...] You may want to do the opposite. Your phone may think it's being stolen if you happen to get on something like a wireless connection with NoCatSplash. (Which hijacks the first attempt to grab a web page in order to show you a welcome page.) I'd be tempted to have PGP signed stolen/not stolen pages to alleviate any ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored. -Steve ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea -- anti theft system
On 13 Oct 2007, at 00:09, Derek Pressnall wrote: I have an idea for a simple alarm application. The idea is that if you leave your phone sitting at your desk plugged in charging, then you can activate an app that will play an alrarm sound as soon as the devices is unplugged (with a popup keypad to enter a disarm code). A variant would use the gps to determine if the phone has moved more than a few feet from where you left it. I can think of lots of other ways to implement anti-theft measures in this phone. IMO if I'm too far away from the phone to notice someone nicking it then I'm unlikely to hear it making an alarm sound. I would have it instead check http://mywebsite.com/theft.txt and if it doesn't get a 404 (i.e. you only put the file there when the phone has been stolen) then have it email you its GPS position. It briefly occurred to me to have this theft function trigger a program that periodically switches off the microphone & speaker, calls 999, and reads out a prerecorded "this phone has been stolen" message a couple of times. Festival could be used to read out the co- ordinates to the call operator. However, it would take so few false alarms - generated by end-users "checking that it works" - to completely negate the value of this system that it should probably never be implemented. Stroller. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea -- anti theft system
On 13 Oct 2007, at 00:09, Derek Pressnall wrote: I have an idea for a simple alarm application. The idea is that if you leave your phone sitting at your desk plugged in charging, then you can activate an app that will play an alrarm sound as soon as the devices is unplugged (with a popup keypad to enter a disarm code). A variant would use the gps to determine if the phone has moved more than a few feet from where you left it. All these ideas and more are on the wiki. You're not alone in thinking of the posibilities. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
