Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 i can make a GPRS connection.  when it's up, i can place a call, and the 
 outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends.  when it's up, incoming 
 calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice 
 of accepting the call.

I can answer incoming calls but I need to restart GPRS after each
call. Can you please capture everything sent/received to the GSM chip
in your case?

 before i start trying to find out *how* to configure pppd to do what i 
 want, i'd like to know if the phone is capable of it!  i'd very much 
 appreciate any ideas or insights anyone has on this.

Yep, I understand. It's sometimes bith frustrating to debug these
things when you have a black box (the gsm chip) there.



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Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Tom Yates
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

 Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 i can make a GPRS connection.  when it's up, i can place a call, and the
 outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends.  when it's up, incoming
 calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice
 of accepting the call.

 I can answer incoming calls but I need to restart GPRS after each
 call. Can you please capture everything sent/received to the GSM chip
 in your case?

i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a way 
of doing that?  does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive off a copy 
of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)?


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Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a
 way of doing that?  does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive
 off a copy of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)?

The low-level way is to

strace -o gsm0710muxd.strace -p `pidof gsm0710muxd` -s4096 -f -tt

but you might get lucky if you just set log_level = DEBUG in
frameworkd.conf


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Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sunday 31 August 2008 10:38:47 schrieb Tom Yates:
 i can make a GPRS connection.  when it's up, i can place a call, and the
 outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends.  when it's up, incoming
 calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice
 of accepting the call.

Yep, that's expected. See earlier discussions on this list.

 my understanding from the wiki was that GSM multiplexing allows both a
 GPRS connection and a phone call to be handled at the same time.  so i'd
 sort of assumed that i could still take an incoming call, even if that
 would temporarily suspend the GPRS connection.

Yes, that's the theory. In practice this does hardly work and it's likely not 
a fault of the GSM chipset.

 so: have i misunderstood completely?  is the MUXing simply about sharing
 access to the modem, rather than the line (ie, connection between modem
 and network) as well?

Yes.
  or should i be able to take an incoming call while
 the GPRS is up?

Only, if the connection is kind of idle at this point, i.e. it might work 
while you are pinging a host, it might not work when you are wget'ting loads 
of data.

  and if so, should the GPRS suspend while i do, or should
 i be able to run them both simultaneously?

GPRS will nicely suspend once you were lucky enough to accept the call. It 
will automagically resume.

 before i start trying to find out *how* to configure pppd to do what i
 want, i'd like to know if the phone is capable of it!  i'd very much
 appreciate any ideas or insights anyone has on this.

As it stands, there's no pppd configuration which will improve things. The 
problem is the network.

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