Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Kyle Bassett
I do have an AT&T sim card that came with the phone, but it is not
activated...  It is recognized by the iPhone as an AT&T card.  I could put
the SIM card in the Neo and see if it is recognized, but I don't have AT&T
service for it.

-Kyle

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you
> said you didn't get an AT&T contract.)
>
> I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo.
>
> Michael
>
> Kyle Bassett wrote:
> > Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some
> > favors people owe me, I have acquired an 8GB iPhone (without the AT&T
> > contract)!  Now don't think this means I am defecting to the iPhone
> > community, by any means :-)  I actually am writing for suggestions to
> > make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community.  Please don't ask me
> > to smash or demolish it...yet.  I have been messing around with it the
> > last few days, and there are a ton of usability suggestions that can and
> > will benefit OM/Neo.  Firstly, I want to say that I am very disappointed
> > with the iPhone's touch resolution (not the viewable screen, the
> > physical touch interface).
> >
> > There are other threads relating to iPhone vs. OM/Neo interfacing, but I
> > believe we should start from ground zero now that we know we have an
> > iPhone to play with.
> >
> > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with
> > it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes.
> >
> > Details will follow!
> >
> > -Kyle
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread kenneth marken
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 01:28:03 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> kenneth marken ha scritto:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote:
> >> If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the
> >> slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow
> >> his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week.
> >
> > i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that
> > again is built on top of GSM.
>
> In fact, generally, it's called 2.5G :P

true, but i kinda dislike those G designations as the are very 
non-informative.

i keep seeing the local press refering to hsdpa as super-3G, but thats not 
given. as such, its much better to read the actual product specs as they at 
least list the proper designations.

and just to deliver a small kick towards apple, thats why i hate hearing about 
their "superdrive". hell, even their refreshing of products throw in a wrench 
at times. sure someone is using a macbook pro, but what "generation" macbook 
pro?!

but then im a geek. to most the under-the-hood stuff will fly by them at mach 
16. they just want their gizmo to do what they ask of it without fail or 
hickups.

i guess its the same thing with cars. some love to talk about CCM's, torque 
and all that, while others just want it to drive them flawlessly from a to b, 
and look good while doing so.

i just wish that computer stats where as fashionable as car stats...

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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

kenneth marken ha scritto:

On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote:

If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the
slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow
his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week.



i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that again 
is built on top of GSM.


In fact, generally, it's called 2.5G :P

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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 22:38:52 Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with
> > it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes.
>
> Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the
> fuss is about.  :-)

;-)

Well, I have already seen it once and was impressed by the industrial and 
mechanical design. I was not so much impressed by the actual software though, 
the FOSS community has all the tools in the pipeline, we just need to get our 
act together and compile them to a kick-ass framework and some innovative 
apps (not forgetting bread and butter of course). The software technology is 
there and waiting for us...

:M:

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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread kenneth marken
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote:
> If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the
> slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow
> his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week.
>

i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that again 
is built on top of GSM.

3G in that case would be UMTS, and maybe HSDPA or HDUPA.

most phones that do UMTS also do GSM, and can do handovers between both 
networks on a call or data connection iirc.

> -id
>
> Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you
> > said you didn't get an AT&T contract.)
> >
> > I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo.
>
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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
> > After that, uh hack it? port Linux to it? :-) (but naturally that's
> > in the works already)
>
> Where is information about this works???

I googled, found this:

http://code.google.com/p/iphone-linux/

know nothing more...

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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the 
slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow 
his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week.


-id

Michael Shiloh wrote:
Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you 
said you didn't get an AT&T contract.)


I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo.



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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you 
said you didn't get an AT&T contract.)


I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo.

Michael

Kyle Bassett wrote:
Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some 
favors people owe me, I have acquired an 8GB iPhone (without the AT&T 
contract)!  Now don't think this means I am defecting to the iPhone 
community, by any means :-)  I actually am writing for suggestions to 
make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community.  Please don't ask me 
to smash or demolish it...yet.  I have been messing around with it the 
last few days, and there are a ton of usability suggestions that can and 
will benefit OM/Neo.  Firstly, I want to say that I am very disappointed 
with the iPhone's touch resolution (not the viewable screen, the 
physical touch interface). 

There are other threads relating to iPhone vs. OM/Neo interfacing, but I 
believe we should start from ground zero now that we know we have an 
iPhone to play with.


I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with 
it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes.


Details will follow!

-Kyle




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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread David Samblas Martinez


Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, 
Kyle Bassett  wrote:
> I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it,
> depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes.

Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the
fuss is about.  :-)

After that, uh hack it?  port Linux to it?  :-)  (but naturally that's
in the works already)

Where is information about this works???



   
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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it,
> depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes.

Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the
fuss is about.  :-)

After that, uh hack it?  port Linux to it?  :-)  (but naturally that's
in the works already)

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Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas

Kyle Bassett wrote:

I have acquired an 8GB iPhone
I actually am writing for suggestions to 
make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community.


Likewise, I won an 8GB iPod Touch (essentially the iPhone without the 
cell phone components), and I'd love to run OpenMoko on it at some point.


I bet searching Google for hardware specs would give you enough starter 
information on configuring the OpenMoko build software to cross compile 
for the platform though? I'm not sure how you'd get/install the firmware 
on the device though given the only means to install other firmware is 
via iTunes (at least for the Touch, don't know about the iPhone).


-id

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