Re: iPhone Acquired!
I do have an AT&T sim card that came with the phone, but it is not activated... It is recognized by the iPhone as an AT&T card. I could put the SIM card in the Neo and see if it is recognized, but I don't have AT&T service for it. -Kyle On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you > said you didn't get an AT&T contract.) > > I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo. > > Michael > > Kyle Bassett wrote: > > Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some > > favors people owe me, I have acquired an 8GB iPhone (without the AT&T > > contract)! Now don't think this means I am defecting to the iPhone > > community, by any means :-) I actually am writing for suggestions to > > make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community. Please don't ask me > > to smash or demolish it...yet. I have been messing around with it the > > last few days, and there are a ton of usability suggestions that can and > > will benefit OM/Neo. Firstly, I want to say that I am very disappointed > > with the iPhone's touch resolution (not the viewable screen, the > > physical touch interface). > > > > There are other threads relating to iPhone vs. OM/Neo interfacing, but I > > believe we should start from ground zero now that we know we have an > > iPhone to play with. > > > > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with > > it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. > > > > Details will follow! > > > > -Kyle > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > OpenMoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 01:28:03 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > kenneth marken ha scritto: > > On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote: > >> If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the > >> slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow > >> his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week. > > > > i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that > > again is built on top of GSM. > > In fact, generally, it's called 2.5G :P true, but i kinda dislike those G designations as the are very non-informative. i keep seeing the local press refering to hsdpa as super-3G, but thats not given. as such, its much better to read the actual product specs as they at least list the proper designations. and just to deliver a small kick towards apple, thats why i hate hearing about their "superdrive". hell, even their refreshing of products throw in a wrench at times. sure someone is using a macbook pro, but what "generation" macbook pro?! but then im a geek. to most the under-the-hood stuff will fly by them at mach 16. they just want their gizmo to do what they ask of it without fail or hickups. i guess its the same thing with cars. some love to talk about CCM's, torque and all that, while others just want it to drive them flawlessly from a to b, and look good while doing so. i just wish that computer stats where as fashionable as car stats... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
kenneth marken ha scritto: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote: If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week. i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that again is built on top of GSM. In fact, generally, it's called 2.5G :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 22:38:52 Shawn Rutledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with > > it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. > > Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the > fuss is about. :-) ;-) Well, I have already seen it once and was impressed by the industrial and mechanical design. I was not so much impressed by the actual software though, the FOSS community has all the tools in the pipeline, we just need to get our act together and compile them to a kick-ass framework and some innovative apps (not forgetting bread and butter of course). The software technology is there and waiting for us... :M: ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 00:08:02 ian douglas wrote: > If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the > slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow > his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week. > i would not call EDGE 3G. it is a improvement on the GRPS system, that again is built on top of GSM. 3G in that case would be UMTS, and maybe HSDPA or HDUPA. most phones that do UMTS also do GSM, and can do handovers between both networks on a call or data connection iirc. > -id > > Michael Shiloh wrote: > > Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you > > said you didn't get an AT&T contract.) > > > > I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo. > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
> > After that, uh hack it? port Linux to it? :-) (but naturally that's > > in the works already) > > Where is information about this works??? I googled, found this: http://code.google.com/p/iphone-linux/ know nothing more... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
If I recall, the iPhone is a "3G" phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow his SIM to see if it'll connect to AT&T on my Neo later this week. -id Michael Shiloh wrote: Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you said you didn't get an AT&T contract.) I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you said you didn't get an AT&T contract.) I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo. Michael Kyle Bassett wrote: Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some favors people owe me, I have acquired an 8GB iPhone (without the AT&T contract)! Now don't think this means I am defecting to the iPhone community, by any means :-) I actually am writing for suggestions to make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community. Please don't ask me to smash or demolish it...yet. I have been messing around with it the last few days, and there are a ton of usability suggestions that can and will benefit OM/Neo. Firstly, I want to say that I am very disappointed with the iPhone's touch resolution (not the viewable screen, the physical touch interface). There are other threads relating to iPhone vs. OM/Neo interfacing, but I believe we should start from ground zero now that we know we have an iPhone to play with. I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. Details will follow! -Kyle ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett wrote: > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it, > depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the fuss is about. :-) After that, uh hack it? port Linux to it? :-) (but naturally that's in the works already) Where is information about this works??? - ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? - Sé un mejor Amigo Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it, > depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the fuss is about. :-) After that, uh hack it? port Linux to it? :-) (but naturally that's in the works already) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone Acquired!
Kyle Bassett wrote: I have acquired an 8GB iPhone I actually am writing for suggestions to make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community. Likewise, I won an 8GB iPod Touch (essentially the iPhone without the cell phone components), and I'd love to run OpenMoko on it at some point. I bet searching Google for hardware specs would give you enough starter information on configuring the OpenMoko build software to cross compile for the platform though? I'm not sure how you'd get/install the firmware on the device though given the only means to install other firmware is via iTunes (at least for the Touch, don't know about the iPhone). -id ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community