Re: interesting red flag ui

2007-08-04 Thread Florent THIERY
 I have a few ideas for a launcher, instead of a Start menu, have a
 launcher application.

 Imagine a cylinder you can rotate left and right, it would show 3
 icons highlighted vertically and you would see other icons around the
 cylinder, it would be 3D of course.You can also move thumb up and
 down to change position along the cylinder.

 Ok it's a bit gimmicky but you wouldn't need to move your finger
 around the screen so much as the current system with scrollbars etc.
 Iit would show off the 3d capability of the chip in the consumer
 version. We have enough resolution to make it smooth.

Please feel free to post your fancy ideas in the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UI_Improvements

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Re: interesting red flag ui

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape*
Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore.

Concerning your question: rotating the screen is no problem at all since the
OM kdrive has xrandr support (xrandr -o 1), but imho the screen is still
physically too small to allow writing with your fingers on a standard on
screen keyboard.

I had another idea, maybe I will be able to show a nice gui in edje in some
days (without backend  then) - at moment I just have a prototype in Etk that
seems to be a working concept for thumb-based input, and you can write while
holding the device in one hand ( http://gstaedtner.net/enter.ogg ).
If someone wants the code for trying (just frontend and
4-lines-C-printf-backend), feel free to mail me - but don't expect anything.
:)

2007/8/3, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hey

 Red flag is showing off some very inviting touch menus. The page
 demonstrates them on an asus r2h which also has a gps.


 http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_mobile_internet_device_with_red_flag_linux

 it is intriguing but does bring up some questions...

 can neo pull off a touch keyboard (maybe if the screen could rotate?)

 are they using a hardware button to make the system menu across the
 bottom appear/disappear?

 if they're going to fill 1/5 of the screen with menu buttons, why not
 take it all while in menu mode? do they have apps that share space
 with the minimal menu?

 brad

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Re: interesting red flag ui

2007-08-03 Thread Brad Midgley
Thomas

 Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape*
 Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore.

If someone has put together a decent scheme for a UI with only a
touchscreen, it should serve as inspiration, not repulsion.
(Multitouch is irrelevant here--we can have an excellent,
well-engineered UI without it)

 Concerning your question: rotating the screen is no problem at all since the
 OM kdrive has xrandr support (xrandr -o 1), but imho the screen is still
 physically too small to allow writing with your fingers on a standard on
 screen keyboard.

I tried it and was surprised that it mostly works. The brushed-metal
background needs to be made wider so it doesn't tile and some apps
need tuning. It's even more obvious the split
list-on-top-details-on-bottom idea is not going to work.

http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/contacts-kbd-rotated.jpg

I think a simplified keyboard would just barely fit. The INdT guys
have played around with a correctable edje keyboard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrWpUBTDDr0

I've heard dasher is good once you practice but I've tried and I don't
have the patience.

 I had another idea, maybe I will be able to show a nice gui in edje

that would be great

Brad

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