Re: Release schedule GTA-2
I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here for anyone interested: Why are the file sizes so big? especially on the screenshots, why aren't they 640x480? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Marco Barreno wrote: Right--the phase is tied to the progress of the software and the readiness of the phone. The same three phases will apply to future devices. GTA01 vs. GTA02 is an issue of hardware platform: GTA01 is a certain set of hardware components, and GTA02 is the next revision of the hardware. So GTA02 phase-1 is the next version of the hardware (with wi-fi, better battery, etc.) but still in the development stage where it is aimed at developers. I think this sums it up pretty well. We`re no where close to a 'mass-market release' at the current stage. I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here for anyone interested: http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/ Cheers, ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
awesome pics! cheers! On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:40:19 +0800, mokoNinja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Marco Barreno wrote: Right--the phase is tied to the progress of the software and the readiness of the phone. The same three phases will apply to future devices. GTA01 vs. GTA02 is an issue of hardware platform: GTA01 is a certain set of hardware components, and GTA02 is the next revision of the hardware. So GTA02 phase-1 is the next version of the hardware (with wi-fi, better battery, etc.) but still in the development stage where it is aimed at developers. I think this sums it up pretty well. We`re no where close to a 'mass-market release' at the current stage. I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here for anyone interested: http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/ Cheers, ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Kiam Peng OrangeKnob LLP ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
So - does anyone know anything about shipping GTA02 phase-1 devices? Will they be marked as developer-equipment and maybe also sold with a special price like the GTA01 devices? - Original Message - From: mokoNinja [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 10.40 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin Subject: Re: Release schedule GTA-2 On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Marco Barreno wrote: Right--the phase is tied to the progress of the software and the readiness of the phone. The same three phases will apply to future devices. GTA01 vs. GTA02 is an issue of hardware platform: GTA01 is a certain set of hardware components, and GTA02 is the next revision of the hardware. So GTA02 phase-1 is the next version of the hardware (with wi-fi, better battery, etc.) but still in the development stage where it is aimed at developers. I think this sums it up pretty well. We`re no where close to a 'mass-market release' at the current stage. I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here for anyone interested: http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/ Cheers, ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On 8/19/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:39:14PM +0200, Jurian Sluiman wrote: I was wondering when the GTA-2 Neo comes out. Before GTA-1 everyone said it would be October, but after a while it became September. Some wiki pages are still saying September, others October. depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. In the wiki there are pages that seem to equate GTA01 = phase 1 GTA02 = phase 2 What is GTA02 phase-1 ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while they don't, here's what I understood from Sean's wonderful presentation in Beijing last week: phase 0: building the community -- releasing specs, emulator, etc phase 1: limited (developer) sales -- beta, if you wish phase 2: open commercial sales And those three apply for any past or future OpenMoko product. best, Lalo Martins -- So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. - personal:http://lalo.hystericalraisins.net/ technical:http://www.hystericalraisins.net/ GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On 8/27/07, Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while they don't, here's what I understood from Sean's wonderful presentation in Beijing last week: phase 0: building the community -- releasing specs, emulator, etc phase 1: limited (developer) sales -- beta, if you wish phase 2: open commercial sales And those three apply for any past or future OpenMoko product. best, Lalo Martins I vaguely recall someone from OM saying that just as GTA01 had two phases (0 and 1) with different levels of deployment, GTA02 would most likely have at least two phases (1 and 2? or maybe 0, 1 and 2). My prediction is that software-wise, the neo probably won't be ready for mass release in October, but the hardware should be ready and people who have no problems with updating software should be able to get it by then. Just my guess though. Best to let someone from OM give an official answer. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
My hope is that there is a developers release in October, but that it will be as widely available as GTA01 phase 2. On 8/27/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/27/07, Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while they don't, here's what I understood from Sean's wonderful presentation in Beijing last week: phase 0: building the community -- releasing specs, emulator, etc phase 1: limited (developer) sales -- beta, if you wish phase 2: open commercial sales And those three apply for any past or future OpenMoko product. best, Lalo Martins I vaguely recall someone from OM saying that just as GTA01 had two phases (0 and 1) with different levels of deployment, GTA02 would most likely have at least two phases (1 and 2? or maybe 0, 1 and 2). My prediction is that software-wise, the neo probably won't be ready for mass release in October, but the hardware should be ready and people who have no problems with updating software should be able to get it by then. Just my guess though. Best to let someone from OM give an official answer. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 08:54:34AM +, thus spake Lalo Martins: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while they don't, here's what I understood from Sean's wonderful presentation in Beijing last week: phase 0: building the community -- releasing specs, emulator, etc phase 1: limited (developer) sales -- beta, if you wish phase 2: open commercial sales And those three apply for any past or future OpenMoko product. Right--the phase is tied to the progress of the software and the readiness of the phone. The same three phases will apply to future devices. GTA01 vs. GTA02 is an issue of hardware platform: GTA01 is a certain set of hardware components, and GTA02 is the next revision of the hardware. So GTA02 phase-1 is the next version of the hardware (with wi-fi, better battery, etc.) but still in the development stage where it is aimed at developers. I hope that clarifies things. I'm not from FIC and I'm repeating here from memory what Sean and Harald have said in other emails, so also I hope I didn't get any details wrong. ;) Marco -- The function of the imagination is not to make strange things settled, so much as to make settled things strange. - G.K. Chesterton, essayist and novelist (1874-1936) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:39:14PM +0200, Jurian Sluiman wrote: I was wondering when the GTA-2 Neo comes out. Before GTA-1 everyone said it would be October, but after a while it became September. Some wiki pages are still saying September, others October. depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. Is openMoko in September ready for an early mass market release? no. -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Release schedule GTA-2
I was wondering when the GTA-2 Neo comes out. Before GTA-1 everyone said it would be October, but after a while it became September. Some wiki pages are still saying September, others October. Is openMoko in September ready for an early mass market release? I'm reading a lot of positive reactions on the mailinglist, but actually nothing about the release schedule. I know there are in The Netherlands quite some people anxious to have one (but only the non-developer type, the GTA-2). Is there some information about the status of the software? Is one month enough for you, developers, to make openMoko ready for the mass market? I hope there will be some more information available. I haven't seen anything on the announce mailinglists and the wiki does not contain a roadmap. I can understand there will be reactions like it's ready when it's ready, but many people like to know a global roadmap of what they can expect. Thanks, Jurian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release schedule GTA-2
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:39:14PM +0200, thus spake Jurian Sluiman: I was wondering when the GTA-2 Neo comes out. Before GTA-1 everyone said it would be October, but after a while it became September. Some wiki pages are still saying September, others October. Is openMoko in September ready for an early mass market release? Isn't September an old estimate, before Sean's New Oceans email? That email (on June 27th) said October and I thought that was still the plan now. However, I must say it seems to me personally that October is looking very optimistic at this point...my money would be on January or February. (And I mean for a reasonably consumer-ready hardware + software stack...perhaps the hardware will be ready by October, but I don't think the software will be.) But hopefully people on the inside know more than I do about all the good progress being made! I'm not an openmoko developer, just a very interested follower on this list eagerly awaiting the chance to buy a GTA02 Neo... Marco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
