Re: [Shr-User] SHR Stable Party (Questions for press release/ blog post)
Answers inline. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:10, rakshat hooja wrote: > Ok so I have my list of questions for SHR people. Please feel free to add > questions and if you know answers please answer! (I know a most of the > answers are on the two wikis. I am just trying to consolidate and update > them so we can easily write about SHR :) I am hoping the consolidated > answers will be moved to a wiki page soon > > 1. What is SHR? SHR is a embedded distribution aimed to give users power of free software in their smartphones. It's based on OpenEmbedded build system and on FSO phone stack, which is the best approach to smartphone middleware for us (well, at least in my opinion). > 2. Can you tell a bit about the history of SHR? Why was the development of > SHR started? What were the aims and objectives? I joined SHR development a bit later, but AFAIK SHR was created after announcement of ASU (later called Om2008) and its first goal was to port 2007.2 applications to FSO stack and to use them in ASU environment (that's why it's called Stable *Hybrid* Release). > 3. What are the target platforms for SHR? Does SHR target only Openmoko > phones or is it designed as a generic mobile communication/ PDA solution? ATM we target only Openmoko phones, but only because they are the most open and most of us have them. We're keeping our eyes on effort to port FSO to HTC phones, Palm Pre and other devices and we're also interested in running SHR on them. So our aim is to be generic smartphone operating system and to run wherever FSO runs. > 4. How does the development process of SHR work ( As in who/ who all decide > what is to be doe at what priority)? We try to always look on what community wants and to not decide anything important without community acceptance. For organizational reasons, there is SHR core team, which consists of the most active SHR and FSO developers. Members of coreteam should be listed somewhere on wiki, I won't write it now because I don't want to skip anyone :) > 5. Who are the main developers working on SHR? What are their areas of > interest wrt SHR and what are they working on these days? I think TAsn and mrmoku (working mostly on libphone* libs, but not only) and JaMa (OpenEmbedded) are the most active developers ATM. Also, spaetz is maitaining shr-testing OE branch. I used to work on shr-settings, shr-installer, opimd and few others - but recently I didn't have time to do active development, so I don't know if I'm the most active anymore :) Also, there are some people who are sending to us patches to shr-devel maillist. > 6. How far has the development of SHR progressed? Is the current SHR image > usable out of the box? It depends, but mostly - yes. Most of us is using their SHR based Freerunners as primary, daily phones (me too). > 7. Can you explain the structure of SHR (as in kernel, middleawre windows > manager, data storage structure, application layer etc)? Kernel - Linux. Actually 2.6.29, but we're looking forward newer kernels (SHR supports them, but not out-of-box) As window manager we're using Enlightenment with Illume module (but there started first efforts to drop Illume and replace it with Illume2). Middleware is obvious - freesmartphone.org :) As data storage we're using one of FSO daemons - opimd. About applications - they are different. Some of them comes from GPE project, some of them were written by Openmoko community, and some of them were written by us for us ;) About architecture of SHR apps and libs - I think TAsn and mrmoku are the ones who should talk about it :) > 8. If a S/W developer wishes to contribute to SHR what should she/ he do? > Does she/ he need to have any specific skill sets to contribute to SHR? Of course no! There are many different ways users can contribute to SHR - code, API organization, distro mainternance, artwork, themes... We have running patchwork system on our shr-devel maillist, so patches are welcome and they won't be forgotten. Also, developers can just hang on IRC - #openmoko-cdevel channel on freenode - in order to talk about what they can do. Obtaining commit access to our git repos is easy, just send few patches, be active - and then, when you'll ask for access, you'll get it :) > 9. How does a developer make sure her/ his application runs on SHR. Is there > any centralised verification process or a repository where verified > applications are stored? Just send us one file - it's called "bitbake recipe" and has *.bb extension. More about writing them you can read on OpenEmbedded websites. After sending us this file, your app will be integrated in our main repositiories and we will have to keep eye on package - if it works, builds etc. - not app developer (and personally: that's why I don't like opkg.org :P) > 10. Can you list the main areas where you would appreciate help in the SHR > development process and are looking for volunteers. SHR testing and SHR stable maintainers with skills in OpenEmbedded. Also, some new th
Re: [Shr-User] Fwd: SHR Stable Party
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ben Thompson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 04:30:25PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Neil Jerram > > Date: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:25 AM > > Subject: Re: SHR Stable Party > > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > > > > > > > > > > > For me personally, the most effective demonstrations - and hence > > publicity - are good Youtube videos. So I would recommend SHR users > > to prepare some really slick ones, showing lots of different uses of > > the phone - and including for phone calls! :-) Then the best of those > > can be linked from any press releases. > > > > I think your other ideas are good too, but some slick, well produced > > videos would be great. > > Would it be worth trying to get some videos with a non-debug kernel? > > > I have added two pages on the OM wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Videos and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_case_studies Please add your links and stories there :) -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party (Questions for press release/ blog post)
*Please fwd to SHR developer list also* > 2) This weekend I am going to make a questionnaire for the SHR core team > asking questions about the history of SHR (how it came to be, who were the > key people in the begining etc), who all are working on it currently and > what all are they contributing, what technologies and toolkits SHR uses and > supports, Why SHR should be used, What are the future plans and new targeted > platforms, What help do they need, What contributions the community can make > etc. I will post the questionnaire on these mailing lists and maybe the > SHR-devloper list too. Once the answers are there maybe some of you with > bolgs can edit and make an article for your blogs/ for sending to magazines > for publication. > > > Ok so I have my list of questions for SHR people. Please feel free to add questions and if you know answers please answer! (I know a most of the answers are on the two wikis. I am just trying to consolidate and update them so we can easily write about SHR :) I am hoping the consolidated answers will be moved to a wiki page soon 1. What is SHR? 2. Can you tell a bit about the history of SHR? Why was the development of SHR started? What were the aims and objectives? 3. What are the target platforms for SHR? Does SHR target only Openmokophones or is it designed as a generic mobile communication/ PDA solution? 4. How does the development process of SHR work ( As in who/ who all decide what is to be doe at what priority)? 5. Who are the main developers working on SHR? What are their areas of interest wrt SHR and what are they working on these days? 6. How far has the development of SHR progressed? Is the current SHR image usable out of the box? 7. Can you explain the structure of SHR (as in kernel, middleawre windows manager, data storage structure, application layer etc)? 8. If a S/W developer wishes to contribute to SHR what should she/ he do? Does she/ he need to have any specific skill sets to contribute to SHR? 9. How does a developer make sure her/ his application runs on SHR. Is there any centralised verification process or a repository where verified applications are stored? 10. Can you list the main areas where you would appreciate help in the SHRdevelopment process and are looking for volunteers. 11. What is the relationship of SHR with FSO ( A bit about FSO too). Is SHRan user interface on top of FSO or does it offer something more? 12. Can someone highlight the Short term, medium term and long term benefits of using SHR to Hardware hackers and hardware manufacturers? 13. What milestones does SHR hope to hit in 2010? 13. Where do I find all the code and documentation for SHR? 14. When will SHR/ Stable be available :) Also we already have 9 SHR Stable release parties listed. Please list your local party or your attendance to a party on the wiki page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page If you are not registered on the wiki to edit mail me directly and I will add your entry. Number of other announcements for the SHR parties will be posted on these lists soon so keep a lookout for them :) Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
I have near zero graphic skills but I have modified a place holder logo for the SHR Party page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SHR-Party-Logo.png This is only there till someone can provide a better logo. Rakshat On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:56 AM, rakshat hooja wrote: > As we build up to the SHR Stable renaming of SHR Testing and (hopefully) a > number of SHR Stable parties across the world, I have been thinking about > what all we can do to create more awareness about SHR (and FSO) among > embeded developers as well as users. Three ideas have come to me (as in > within the last miniute so please excuse if they are not developed properly) > > 1) We need to create press releases that we can emai/ mail/ fax to our > local (or global for that matter) tech media outlets. Actually I am thinking > of 2 sets of press releases. One for the various developer communities who > may be interested and one for the general public focuses media. The general > public press release needs to give an idea of what SHR is, what it is trying > to acheive,its benifits and usefullness etc with screen shots. The community > announcement can be more technical and also acknowledge the core developers > (if they agree). I see these going out to the tech editor of your local > newspaper, tech blogging sites, news agencies, maybe some companies too > along with the big tech news websites. If we all send these out in our own > regions we may get some coverage > > 2) This weekend I am going to make a questionnaire for the SHR core team > asking questions about the history of SHR (how it came to be, who were the > key people in the begining etc), who all are working on it currently and > what all are they contributing, what technologies and toolkits SHR uses and > supports, Why SHR should be used, What are the future plans and new targeted > platforms, What help do they need, What contributions the community can make > etc. I will post the questionnaire on these mailing lists and maybe the > SHR-devloper list too. Once the answers are there maybe some of you with > bolgs can edit and make an article for your blogs/ for sending to magazines > for publication. > > 3) If someone can make a small SHR user logo, the SHR users can put it on > their blogs/ websites. > > Please send feedback and more ideas. > > Rakshat > > PS - Also add your names for the various SHR Stable parties > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, rakshat hooja wrote: > >> As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable >> release party planning page >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page >> >> Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback. >> >> Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party >> >> Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR >> wiki?) >> >> >> Rakshat >> >> -- >> -- >> Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and >> is also a very feature rich browser. >> www.firefox.com >> >> > > > -- > -- > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and > is also a very feature rich browser. > www.firefox.com > > -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
Awesome plan, Rakshat, thanks for your work! We're probably not doing enough PR in general -- next week I'll work on giving the FSO website a new couple of entry pages that document what we're after and why we're better than the competition ;) Cheers, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
[Not copying shr-user because I'm not subscribed there and so my email will be bounced... But please feel free to add shr-user back again in any followups.] On 23 February 2010 19:26, rakshat hooja wrote: > As we build up to the SHR Stable renaming of SHR Testing and (hopefully) a > number of SHR Stable parties across the world, I have been thinking about > what all we can do to create more awareness about SHR (and FSO) among > embeded developers as well as users. For me personally, the most effective demonstrations - and hence publicity - are good Youtube videos. So I would recommend SHR users to prepare some really slick ones, showing lots of different uses of the phone - and including for phone calls! :-) Then the best of those can be linked from any press releases. I think your other ideas are good too, but some slick, well produced videos would be great. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
As we build up to the SHR Stable renaming of SHR Testing and (hopefully) a number of SHR Stable parties across the world, I have been thinking about what all we can do to create more awareness about SHR (and FSO) among embeded developers as well as users. Three ideas have come to me (as in within the last miniute so please excuse if they are not developed properly) 1) We need to create press releases that we can emai/ mail/ fax to our local (or global for that matter) tech media outlets. Actually I am thinking of 2 sets of press releases. One for the various developer communities who may be interested and one for the general public focuses media. The general public press release needs to give an idea of what SHR is, what it is trying to acheive,its benifits and usefullness etc with screen shots. The community announcement can be more technical and also acknowledge the core developers (if they agree). I see these going out to the tech editor of your local newspaper, tech blogging sites, news agencies, maybe some companies too along with the big tech news websites. If we all send these out in our own regions we may get some coverage 2) This weekend I am going to make a questionnaire for the SHR core team asking questions about the history of SHR (how it came to be, who were the key people in the begining etc), who all are working on it currently and what all are they contributing, what technologies and toolkits SHR uses and supports, Why SHR should be used, What are the future plans and new targeted platforms, What help do they need, What contributions the community can make etc. I will post the questionnaire on these mailing lists and maybe the SHR-devloper list too. Once the answers are there maybe some of you with bolgs can edit and make an article for your blogs/ for sending to magazines for publication. 3) If someone can make a small SHR user logo, the SHR users can put it on their blogs/ websites. Please send feedback and more ideas. Rakshat PS - Also add your names for the various SHR Stable parties http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, rakshat hooja wrote: > As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable > release party planning page > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page > > Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback. > > Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party > > Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR > wiki?) > > > Rakshat > > -- > -- > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and > is also a very feature rich browser. > www.firefox.com > > -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
done ciao jo On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:58 PM, rakshat hooja wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Giovanni wrote: > >> Anyone in Turin, Italy? >> >> ciao >> jo >> >> Please add your name and Turin to the wiki page >> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page > > Rakshat > > > > > >> >> > As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR >>> Stable >>> > release party planning page >>> > >>> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page >>> > >>> > Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send >>> feedback. >>> > >>> > Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki >>> > >>> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party >>> > >>> > Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR >>> > wiki?) >>> > >>> > >>> > Rakshat >>> > >>> > -- >>> > -- >>> > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware >>> and is >>> > also a very feature rich browser. >>> > www.firefox.com >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > Openmoko community mailing list >>> > community@lists.openmoko.org >>> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Reyes Samblas Martinez >>> http://www.tuxbrain.com >>> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions >>> Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko >>> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > -- > -- > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and > is also a very feature rich browser. > www.firefox.com > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
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Re: SHR Stable Party
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Giovanni wrote: > Anyone in Turin, Italy? > > ciao > jo > > Please add your name and Turin to the wiki page > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page Rakshat > > > As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR >> Stable >> > release party planning page >> > >> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page >> > >> > Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send >> feedback. >> > >> > Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki >> > >> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party >> > >> > Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR >> > wiki?) >> > >> > >> > Rakshat >> > >> > -- >> > -- >> > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware >> and is >> > also a very feature rich browser. >> > www.firefox.com >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez >> http://www.tuxbrain.com >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions >> Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko >> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
Anyone in Turin, Italy? ciao jo On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:40 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez < da...@tuxbrain.com> wrote: > I like the idea :) Bacelona people what do you think? > rakshat propone hacer una party el mes que vuene el dia en que shr > testing pase a stable, algun bareto en el que podamos quedar y hacer > una birra para celebrarlo? > Hacer una paralela en Madrid? > 2010/2/19 rakshat hooja : > > As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable > > release party planning page > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page > > > > Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback. > > > > Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party > > > > Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR > > wiki?) > > > > > > Rakshat > > > > -- > > -- > > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and > is > > also a very feature rich browser. > > www.firefox.com > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > -- > David Reyes Samblas Martinez > http://www.tuxbrain.com > Open ultraportable & embedded solutions > Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko > Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Stable Party
I like the idea :) Bacelona people what do you think? rakshat propone hacer una party el mes que vuene el dia en que shr testing pase a stable, algun bareto en el que podamos quedar y hacer una birra para celebrarlo? Hacer una paralela en Madrid? 2010/2/19 rakshat hooja : > As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable > release party planning page > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page > > Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback. > > Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party > > Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR > wiki?) > > > Rakshat > > -- > -- > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is > also a very feature rich browser. > www.firefox.com > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR Stable Party
As promised I have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable release party planning page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback. Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR wiki?) Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
