Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
Thank you Kevin! That is really good news... So by setting up a Midwest group we're really just making freerunner friends near by! Well that sounds great. So I guess the best reason for a local 10 pack is being able to all meet and open up the box and not wait for it to be shipped again. Well I'm stoked! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30 > minutes from you. > > Kevin Dean wrote: > > Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve > > gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be > > broken up by region. > > > > It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD > > where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country"). > > > > $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping. > > > > Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack) > > back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which > > would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39. > > > > Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a > > volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if > > shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways. > > > > For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to > > work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The > > diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less > > than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper. > > > > The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's > > actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said, > > I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much > > money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short > > could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on > > the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG > > meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it > > shipped. > > > > Neat. :) > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> That's quite useful, thanks! > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I think this is what you're looking for: > >> > > >> > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs > so you > >> > > > > could do this. > >> > > > > >> > > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? > I'm > >> > > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and > even > >> > > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of > crap to > >> > > > wade through. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks! > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Steven Kurylo > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ___ > >> > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ___ > >> > > > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Geoff Ruscoe > >> > > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting > >> > > ___ > >> > > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Geoff Ruscoe Sigma Visions Computer Consulting __
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30 minutes from you. Kevin Dean wrote: > Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve > gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be > broken up by region. > > It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD > where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country"). > > $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping. > > Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack) > back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which > would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39. > > Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a > volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if > shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways. > > For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to > work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The > diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less > than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper. > > The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's > actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said, > I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much > money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short > could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on > the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG > meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it > shipped. > > Neat. :) > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That's quite useful, thanks! >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I think this is what you're looking for: >> > >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you >> > > > > could do this. >> > > > >> > > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm >> > > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even >> > > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to >> > > > wade through. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks! >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Steven Kurylo >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ___ >> > > > > Openmoko community mailing list >> > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ___ >> > > > Openmoko community mailing list >> > > > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Geoff Ruscoe >> > > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting >> > > ___ >> > > Openmoko community mailing list >> > > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be broken up by region. It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country"). $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping. Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack) back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39. Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways. For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper. The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said, I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it shipped. Neat. :) On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's quite useful, thanks! > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is what you're looking for: > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you > > > > > could do this. > > > > > > > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm > > > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even > > > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to > > > > wade through. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steven Kurylo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Geoff Ruscoe > > > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
That's quite useful, thanks! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is what you're looking for: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you > > > > could do this. > > > > > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm > > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even > > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to > > > wade through. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steven Kurylo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Geoff Ruscoe > > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
I think this is what you're looking for: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you > > > could do this. > > > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to > > wade through. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Steven Kurylo > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > -- > Geoff Ruscoe > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
Kevin Dean wrote: Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? From Steve's Email to the Community list April 24 at 12:44pm Pacific time with a subject of "10 PACK UPDATE!!!" : "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets." In an Email around that same week, he had given the weight of about 3 pounds for 10 units, which I remember thinking sounded too light for 10 units (unless he meant 3lbs per phone?), and had given the dimensions of the larger box that would contain all 10 boxes but I don't recall those offhand. He had quoted about $70 to ship a 10-pack to somewhere in Europe and guessed it would be ~$20 to ship within the US. For those of us coordinating a 10-pack order, I guess we'll be responsible too for getting smaller boxes to ship in, plus whatever postage/shipping costs to distribute the smaller boxes to the other people? If Steve's throwing in a pouch and headset for 10-pack orders, then I doubt the larger box will contain 10 pre-packaged ready-to-ship boxes with the pouch/headset already inside? -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you > > could do this. > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to > wade through. > > Thanks! > > > > > -- > > Steven Kurylo > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Geoff Ruscoe Sigma Visions Computer Consulting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you > could do this. Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to wade through. Thanks! > > -- > Steven Kurylo > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
They have provided the specs in a different email stream. But don't forgot you're going to have to pay for the shipping for an individual item from CA if you order a single. And there are extras when you or 10 together. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack > purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger > than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the > case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY > works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device. > > Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner > packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single > using weight? > > Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a > Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person > getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge > a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is > $10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the > Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your > savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko. > > Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in > bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus > individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be > used to organize bulk purchases? > > Thanks. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Geoff Ruscoe Sigma Visions Computer Consulting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
Or you could just drive to pick up your freerunner, and spend around $300 in gas. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack > purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger > than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the > case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY > works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device. > > Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner > packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single > using weight? > > Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a > Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person > getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge > a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is > $10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the > Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your > savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko. > > Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in > bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus > individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be > used to organize bulk purchases? > > Thanks. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
> Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in > bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus > individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be > used to organize bulk purchases? If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you could do this. -- Steven Kurylo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)
I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device. Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single using weight? Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is $10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko. Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be used to organize bulk purchases? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
