Re: The GTAs
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: >> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> > Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: >> >> according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely >> >> have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? >> > nope >> > /j >> > > > Sorry my fault. GTA04 is completely unclear yet. > I read GTA03, where in fact you asked for 04. > Nevermind. > /j > Ah, thanks for claryfying. . - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: > >> according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely > >> have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? > > nope > > /j > > > > Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a > decision from the silent and mysterious "design" department ? > > > I'm not a developer ATM machine, ie, I won't keep buying these devices > and developing on them if they never will have competetive hardware. I > Already bought the Freerunner thinking the hardware on a future device > will someday catch up to the current proprietary market. Now I > realized that is not going to happen. I can't figure out the > "evolution, not revolution" purpose of the GT03 , and now that GT04 > won't have 3G , it makes me wonder who are going to buy these things. > My pockets and patience are not endless. > Sorry my fault. GTA04 is completely unclear yet. I read GTA03, where in fact you asked for 04. Nevermind. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
> Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a > decision from the silent and mysterious "design" department ? this has been discussed extensively only a few weeks ago. please, do us all a favour and check the archives before bringing up questions that are apparently obvious. the more obvious a question is the more likely has it already been answered. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: >> according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely >> have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? > nope > /j > Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a decision from the silent and mysterious "design" department ? I'm not a developer ATM machine, ie, I won't keep buying these devices and developing on them if they never will have competetive hardware. I Already bought the Freerunner thinking the hardware on a future device will someday catch up to the current proprietary market. Now I realized that is not going to happen. I can't figure out the "evolution, not revolution" purpose of the GT03 , and now that GT04 won't have 3G , it makes me wonder who are going to buy these things. My pockets and patience are not endless. - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: > according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely > have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? nope /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
2008/7/25 Corey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and > 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have > jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. > > Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it > all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ > > GTA03 > Removed Glamo > 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) > based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc > camera > different case design than 1973/freerunner > vga screen > different battery > different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) > USB2.0-OTG > > > GTA04 > USB2.0 will be here at the earliest > different GSM chip than FreeRunner > I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d > acceleration than Glamo. > 3D? > > oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... > thanks again > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Saturday 26 July 2008 14:03:08 Mikko Rauhala wrote: > la, 2008-07-26 kello 14:53 +0300, Timo Jyrinki kirjoitti: > > 2.5G = GSM with GPRS > > 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) > > Yeah, but FWIW, the whole G notation especially for fractions should be > taken out and shot ;] it serves the same for marketing as megapixels or horsepower. its a simple number that a customer can look at, compare and figure that "higher must be better"... so, who is up for firebombing some marketing deps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
la, 2008-07-26 kello 14:53 +0300, Timo Jyrinki kirjoitti: > 2.5G = GSM with GPRS > 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) Yeah, but FWIW, the whole G notation especially for fractions should be taken out and shot ;] -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - http://www.singinst.org/> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
2008/7/25 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes. There will be a new 2.5G GSM module (2.5G = GSM+EDGE). This is commonly mistaken, but: 2.5G = GSM with GPRS 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5G and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it > > all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ > It is not on the wiki because things may still change. > Isn't that part of the idea behind the wiki? Things of course do change, and should be updated accordingly. I don't see that as being a reason why this information couldn't be put there. Just put a disclaimer that things may change and/or be out of date. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am Sa 26. Juli 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > > USB2.0-OTG > Yes. OM pays a lot for this. NOPE! > > > > GTA04 > > USB2.0 will be here at the earliest look here! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
I can not promise I am correct, but I think this is what have been told on ml's. On 2008-07-25, Corey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and > 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have > jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. > > Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it > all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ It is not on the wiki because things may still change. > GTA03 > Removed Glamo > 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) > based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc > camera > different case design than 1973/freerunner > vga screen > different battery > different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) Yes. There will be a new 2.5G GSM module (2.5G = GSM+EDGE). Maybe this will solve the issues with newer sim cards. > USB2.0-OTG Yes. OM pays a lot for this. > > GTA04 > USB2.0 will be here at the earliest > different GSM chip than FreeRunner and maybe a different PMU:) > I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d > acceleration than Glamo. > 3D? I am not sure about the 2D/3D. I think it is just some talk - lets wait and see. It will prob. take a few years until it gets available, and then hopefully with something newer than 2.5G networks. Maybe different shape on the device. GTA04 will be a totally redesigned and improved GTA. > > oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... > thanks again GTA03 != Dash Express ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The GTAs
Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ GTA03 Removed Glamo 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc camera different case design than 1973/freerunner vga screen different battery different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) USB2.0-OTG GTA04 USB2.0 will be here at the earliest different GSM chip than FreeRunner I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d acceleration than Glamo. 3D? oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... thanks again ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
