Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-12 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:00, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote:
 
  Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd
 rock.
 

 there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only.
 it comes with a little script to replace these files
 (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/)
 (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might
 delete them)


The best would be to support qtopia phone  in the OE tree. It would be very
nice to update it with opkg :). Actually there are qt,qt4, and qtopia-core,
why not the phone part too?

regards

 Nicola
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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-11 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:00, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote:

 Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd rock.


there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only.
it comes with a little script to replace these files
(/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/)
(just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might
delete them)

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-11 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 14:02, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:00, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote:

 Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd rock.


 there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only.
 it comes with a little script to replace these files
 (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/)
 (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might
 delete them)

I meant this snapshot http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=82

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-11 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Thursday 11 September 2008 22:02:52 Cédric Berger wrote:
  there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only.
  it comes with a little script to replace these files
  (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/)
  (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might
  delete them)

 I meant this snapshot
 http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=82

Ok, I guess I can strip what I need from the update. Thanks :)

Sarton

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-10 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote:
 I would like to be able to install Trolltech's Qtopia on top of a
 fresh distro such as the latest testing 2008.8 base distro.

This works really well. I'm booting from sd with om2008 testing, switching 
both applications via scripts from terminal.

This now leaves me with the flash for installing debian.

Lorn, what would be involved with upgrading only the qtopia component? Besides 
extracting from the jffs image (which requires I knock up a linux kernel, 
which I haven't had to do for years on archlinux - fantastic generic kernel 
... any hints on doing this under *BSD? I'll look into it ...).

Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd rock.

Thanks,

Sarton

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 00:29, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh start
 or ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe.sh /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe.sh
 to make it start up automatically on boot. (dont forget to remove the link in 
 /etc/rc5.d to xserver-nodm


Thanks.

But I still can't get it start : it goes to the empty screen with
blinking cursor at top, and stays stucked here.
Where should I look for a log of what is happening ?

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Cédric Berger wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 00:29, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh start
 or ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe.sh /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe.sh
 to make it start up automatically on boot. (dont forget to remove the link 
 in /etc/rc5.d to xserver-nodm

 
 Thanks.
 
 But I still can't get it start : it goes to the empty screen with
 blinking cursor at top, and stays stucked here.
 Where should I look for a log of what is happening ?

You can run qtopia form the console (ssh).
just do this:

source /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.env
qpe


and this will most likely tell you whats up.

Btw, is this on gta01?


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Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company


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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 21:54, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cédric Berger wrote:
 Where should I look for a log of what is happening ?

 You can run qtopia form the console (ssh).
 just do this:

 source /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.env
 qpe


 and this will most likely tell you whats up.

 Btw, is this on gta01?

no, gta02.
I'll try again.

I thought it might be it is stuck browsing my 8GB card (though I think
i disabled it through editing
/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf)... but it should
get to main screen anyway

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 21:54, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 source /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.env
 qpe


 and this will most likely tell you whats up.


Ok thanks, this way I could get the error message :

qpe: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Cédric Berger wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 23:09, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ok thanks, this way I could get the error message :

 qpe: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot
 open shared object file: No such file or directory

 
 So I just did an opkg install libstdc++6 and qpe could finally start:-)

yes, g++ now has the silly notion that it needs to link libstdc++ to everything 
it compiles, even if 
it does not need it like Qt and Qtopia.
There is a configure argument to turn off this silliness (when configuring 
g++), but I forget what 
it is. Some toolchains g++ automatically link in libstdc++ for 'you' and some 
do not. Any toolchain 
from OE will exhibit this behavior (since it is g++ default mode).





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Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company


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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-08 Thread Lorn Potter
Cédric Berger wrote:
 I would like to be able to install Trolltech's Qtopia on top of a
 fresh distro such as the latest testing 2008.8 base distro.
 
 For now I mostly use qtopia distro form qtopia.net
 The rootfs released by qtopia.net can't opkg upgrade. It uses
 buildhost, not available anymore.
 
 
 I could not find what is needed to have Qtopia work on a given rootfs ?
 
 So far, I just tried installing /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/ stuff on 2008.8
 base (from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ ),
 then (after a /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop ), launching
 /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh(or putting it in /etc/init.d/ and
 rebooting).

do /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh start
or ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe.sh /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe.sh
to make it start up automatically on boot. (dont forget to remove the link in 
/etc/rc5.d to xserver-nodm

 
 It did not work (stays on empty screen with cursor only)
 
 Do I have to put something more in /home/root ? Or elsewhere ?
 Disable something more in 2008.8 ?
 
 Once this work, what I would be cool is to be able to quickly switch
 beetween 2008.8 X11 stuff and Qtopia framebuffer based stuff :
 2 scripts, one to do the stop X11 server and some services then aunch
 qpe,  and one for the other way around.
 Is it as easy as it looks ?
 
 This would replace what I do now : shutdown then reboot on another 
 partition...
 
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