Re: US: T-Mobile plans
On 7/31/07, John Seghers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it was definitely the SIM. Certain handsets with certain SIMs would > not > download off our server (They would download the JAD, but not the > JAR)--and > the JAR was being blocked, it wasn't a case of it downloading and then > refusing to install because of a bad certificate. > > Changing the SIM would allow it to proceed. > > Also, log into Samsung's developer boards and you will find commentary > that > other developers were running into the same issue. > > - John I wouldn't put it past any telco to do something like that. I never encountered it myself on tmobile, but I generally only browse with gprs/edge and save downloads for wifi or pc. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: US: T-Mobile plans
No, it was definitely the SIM. Certain handsets with certain SIMs would not download off our server (They would download the JAD, but not the JAR)--and the JAR was being blocked, it wasn't a case of it downloading and then refusing to install because of a bad certificate. Changing the SIM would allow it to proceed. Also, log into Samsung's developer boards and you will find commentary that other developers were running into the same issue. - John Eric Johnson wrote: > Are you sure this wasn't a certificate issue on your jar file. I had no > trouble downloading J2ME apps last year using T-Mobile US and my own web > site. For some of the handsets you needed to hack the root certificate > in the phone or in the Sprint case download a developer certificate to > the phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
Are you sure this wasn't a certificate issue on your jar file. I had no trouble downloading J2ME apps last year using T-Mobile US and my own web site. For some of the handsets you needed to hack the root certificate in the phone or in the Sprint case download a developer certificate to the phone. I can't see how the SIM would have any effect on this. In principle, it can store the root certificate but in my experience the handset developers chose not to implement that part of the standards. I guess I'll find out when I get my own Neo. Eric John Seghers wrote: While I’ve not done so in the last few months, I have done a lot of work in J2ME games. T-Mobile has a definite “walled-garden” mentality on some aspects of web access. For the last couple of years (unless they’ve changed very recently) while they have allowed browsing of most internet sites, they have not allowed JAR files to be downloaded from non-approved sites. This could be gotten around with special SIMs if you have a developer relationship with T-Mobile. There might be fewer restrictions on the “Mobile Internet” vs. “Mobile Web”. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: US: T-Mobile plans
While I've not done so in the last few months, I have done a lot of work in J2ME games. T-Mobile has a definite "walled-garden" mentality on some aspects of web access. For the last couple of years (unless they've changed very recently) while they have allowed browsing of most internet sites, they have not allowed JAR files to be downloaded from non-approved sites. This could be gotten around with special SIMs if you have a developer relationship with T-Mobile. There might be fewer restrictions on the "Mobile Internet" vs. "Mobile Web". - John Nkoli wrote: The only difference between T-Mobile Web and T-Mobile Internet on the phone is that T-Mobile Internet allows VPN while T-Mobile Web doesn't. You can access any arbitrary html or wap site on your phone with both plans. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
Nkoli writes: > >The only difference between T-Mobile Web and T-Mobile Internet on the phone >is that T-Mobile Internet allows VPN while T-Mobile Web doesn't. You can >access any arbitrary html or wap site on your phone with both plans. I've >been using the cheaper plan since their t-zones unlimited days and haven't >had any problems getting online. Tethering should also work with T-Mobile >Web. Many, many thanks. This is *exactly* what I was looking for. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
On 7/30/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan Trevino writes: > > > >I have their $5.99 internet plan working with my unsupported Treo 680. > > After reading the posts to howardforums (thanks Adam!), I have to ask: > when you say it's "working", does that mean you can go to an arbitrary > URL and see what's there? The only difference between T-Mobile Web and T-Mobile Internet on the phone is that T-Mobile Internet allows VPN while T-Mobile Web doesn't. You can access any arbitrary html or wap site on your phone with both plans. I've been using the cheaper plan since their t-zones unlimited days and haven't had any problems getting online. Tethering should also work with T-Mobile Web. All the info you need to set it up here if you haven't found it already: http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm21625.htm? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
Dan Trevino writes: > >I have their $5.99 internet plan working with my unsupported Treo 680. After reading the posts to howardforums (thanks Adam!), I have to ask: when you say it's "working", does that mean you can go to an arbitrary URL and see what's there? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
On 7/30/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is addressed to people who have successfully navigated t-mobile's > thicket: wouldn't it be nice if their web page gave good, complete, > technical information? > > Anyway, my reading of their page is that to get web access on the > phone I need to add their "T-MobileWeb" service, but I don't need > their "T-Mobile Internet"? > > The latter clearly includes features I don't need: unlimited wi-fi > hotspot access, for instance. But the former mumbles about the > "mobile internet", so I wonder if there's some filtering going on > distinguishing the mobile internet from the whole thing. > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I have their $5.99 internet plan working with my unsupported Treo 680. dan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
More info than you probably want: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=518666 http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: This is addressed to people who have successfully navigated t-mobile's thicket: wouldn't it be nice if their web page gave good, complete, technical information? Anyway, my reading of their page is that to get web access on the phone I need to add their "T-MobileWeb" service, but I don't need their "T-Mobile Internet"? The latter clearly includes features I don't need: unlimited wi-fi hotspot access, for instance. But the former mumbles about the "mobile internet", so I wonder if there's some filtering going on distinguishing the mobile internet from the whole thing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
US: T-Mobile plans
This is addressed to people who have successfully navigated t-mobile's thicket: wouldn't it be nice if their web page gave good, complete, technical information? Anyway, my reading of their page is that to get web access on the phone I need to add their "T-MobileWeb" service, but I don't need their "T-Mobile Internet"? The latter clearly includes features I don't need: unlimited wi-fi hotspot access, for instance. But the former mumbles about the "mobile internet", so I wonder if there's some filtering going on distinguishing the mobile internet from the whole thing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
