Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
That ASUS model seems to come with a mini USB already. No adapters. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I googled and found this: > > > http://pc.pcconnection.com/1/1/44869-asus-computer-international-r2h-slim-usb-2-0-foldable-keyboard-04gngv1kus00.html > > A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about > it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards. > > Here's another one: > > http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PA875U01X-DT&cat=KYB > > /Erland > > > 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 2008/7/8 Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is >> > "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking >> > about writing using all the fingers of your hands. >> >> i'm not sure to be honest - i want to look at a few options. i think a >> thumbpad would be faster than a touchscreen for long e-mails, plus it >> would give tactile feedback, which i find helps no end. >> >> a full kb would be best, but not something i can carry round easily. >> this caught my eye as well, from the same site: >> >> http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10838 >> only 218mm x 103mm >> >> > Or what about a flexible one? like >> > http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 >> > >> > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P >> > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml >> >> >> the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it >> >> > 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> 2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Hi all! >> >>> >> >>> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good >> >>> portable bluetooth keyboard. >> >>> >> >>> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? >> >> >> >> on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there >> >> are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). >> >> >> >> any recommendations? >> >> >> >> someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else >> >> similar/better out there? >> >> >> >> http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Openmoko community mailing list >> >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 04:38:07 Shawn Rutledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeremy List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a > > great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different > > model depending on what hand you plan to use to type on it: I'm pretty > > sure I could design something similar that doesn't have that limitation. > > Several buttons along the edges would be enough - one for each finger > and 2 or 3 thumb-buttons, or a rocker for the thumb. You can still > come up with enough chords to type, or, just use them as menu-buttons > to select word ranges, kindof analogous to Dasher. > > A long time ago I read about a research project along these lines at > Xerox Parc (which actually occurred even longer ago). They were using > big round infrared blasters on the ceiling as uplinks into a network, > and people were carrying around these pager-sized devices with buttons > along the edge (and simple 2-line LCD displays), and you could do > 2-way messaging anywhere on campus when one of the IR gateways was > within range. But I thought the text input method was the most > interesting aspect of it. You only need several buttons to do it, so > it can be ergonomic if the buttons are shaped nicely and are kindof > firm (your fingers stay on the same buttons all the time, you just > press them in different patterns). And it would be very cheap to > implement. The thumb buttons could be used for something else in the > word-entry mode, but there could also be an alphanumeric chording mode > (like the Bat keyboard). I think this was done long enough ago that > if there were any patents, they probably expired by now. > > If there were a keyboard on the back, how could you hold the phone and > at the same time press keys on the back? > > But you could hold it by the edges and push buttons along the edges at > the same time. > now thats a interesting tought. and with the freerunners ability to make use of usb as a host, it could maybe power something like this: http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_vr920.html it could be fun if a freerunner housing came with such a cording setup, and a training app for people to get used to it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A long time ago I read about a research project along these lines at > Xerox Parc Here we go: http://www.ubiq.com/parctab/ http://www.ubiq.com/parctab/csl9501/node4.html#SECTION0004 The 3 buttons were for interacting with a menu. 4 plus thumbs must've been my idea the last time I read that paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeremy List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a > great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different > model depending on what hand you plan to use to type on it: I'm pretty > sure I could design something similar that doesn't have that limitation. Several buttons along the edges would be enough - one for each finger and 2 or 3 thumb-buttons, or a rocker for the thumb. You can still come up with enough chords to type, or, just use them as menu-buttons to select word ranges, kindof analogous to Dasher. A long time ago I read about a research project along these lines at Xerox Parc (which actually occurred even longer ago). They were using big round infrared blasters on the ceiling as uplinks into a network, and people were carrying around these pager-sized devices with buttons along the edge (and simple 2-line LCD displays), and you could do 2-way messaging anywhere on campus when one of the IR gateways was within range. But I thought the text input method was the most interesting aspect of it. You only need several buttons to do it, so it can be ergonomic if the buttons are shaped nicely and are kindof firm (your fingers stay on the same buttons all the time, you just press them in different patterns). And it would be very cheap to implement. The thumb buttons could be used for something else in the word-entry mode, but there could also be an alphanumeric chording mode (like the Bat keyboard). I think this was done long enough ago that if there were any patents, they probably expired by now. If there were a keyboard on the back, how could you hold the phone and at the same time press keys on the back? But you could hold it by the edges and push buttons along the edges at the same time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erland Lewin wrote: > > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P > > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml > > > the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different model depending on what hand you plan to use to type on it: I'm pretty sure I could design something similar that doesn't have that limitation. I haven't seen any openmoko software running for quite a while - my computer isn't really fast enough for qemu - but I think it would be a good idea to have the on-screen keyboard always accessible (put the icon back in the notification area or something like that) but have the auto-pop-up disabled when a physical keyboard is connected (more room to see what you're writing). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIdBjbjK3MZIZPmKIRAukGAKDX3qGaA/81WRQOXAsLR80ZR4t5PgCgihWm 2MD4VAOB0HfYaq7ygVgcqtw= =Xg+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
I googled and found this: http://pc.pcconnection.com/1/1/44869-asus-computer-international-r2h-slim-usb-2-0-foldable-keyboard-04gngv1kus00.html A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards. Here's another one: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PA875U01X-DT&cat=KYB /Erland 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/7/8 Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is > > "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking > > about writing using all the fingers of your hands. > > i'm not sure to be honest - i want to look at a few options. i think a > thumbpad would be faster than a touchscreen for long e-mails, plus it > would give tactile feedback, which i find helps no end. > > a full kb would be best, but not something i can carry round easily. > this caught my eye as well, from the same site: > > http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10838 > only 218mm x 103mm > > > Or what about a flexible one? like > > http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 > > > > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P > > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml > > > the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it > > > 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> Hi all! > >>> > >>> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good > >>> portable bluetooth keyboard. > >>> > >>> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? > >> > >> on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there > >> are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). > >> > >> any recommendations? > >> > >> someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else > >> similar/better out there? > >> > >> http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
2008/7/8 Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is > "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking > about writing using all the fingers of your hands. i'm not sure to be honest - i want to look at a few options. i think a thumbpad would be faster than a touchscreen for long e-mails, plus it would give tactile feedback, which i find helps no end. a full kb would be best, but not something i can carry round easily. this caught my eye as well, from the same site: http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10838 only 218mm x 103mm > Or what about a flexible one? like > http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 > > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it > 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Hi all! >>> >>> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good >>> portable bluetooth keyboard. >>> >>> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? >> >> on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there >> are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). >> >> any recommendations? >> >> someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else >> similar/better out there? >> >> http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 >> >> thanks >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
I want to get a frogpad to go with the phone. I've not tried it but they seem pretty cool. http://www.frogpad.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:36 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard) 2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all! > > At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good > portable bluetooth keyboard. > > What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). any recommendations? someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else similar/better out there? http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking about writing using all the fingers of your hands. Or what about a flexible one? like http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml 2008/7/8 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi all! >> >> At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good >> portable bluetooth keyboard. >> >> What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? > > on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there > are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). > > any recommendations? > > someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else > similar/better out there? > > http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 > > thanks > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all! > > At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good > portable bluetooth keyboard. > > What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there are various reasons why I don't like bluetooth). any recommendations? someone suggested this a few weeks back, is there anything else similar/better out there? http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
