Re: Use gps for clock correction
That works, thanks! Op Friday 15 August 2008 13:59:17 schreef vale: gpssight can do that: opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/227/gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner .armv4t.ipk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
I've put this solution in the wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Setting_Date_and_Time#Setting_the_date.2Ftime_automatically_with_gps Peter Op Friday 15 August 2008 13:59:17 schreef vale: gpssight can do that: opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/227/gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner .armv4t.ipk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
gpssight can do that: opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/227/gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Use-gps-for-clock-correction-tp724037p726075.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
On Aug 14, Russell Sears wrote: GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can it handle gps-data? http://time.qnan.org/ ntp has full gps/nmea support, even with PPS: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver20.html http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/refclock.html Does the FR have access to the PPS signal from the GPS chip? That might if not, please add that feature request for GTA03++ ! is there a chance to solder a wire from ublox to some free digital input line which can trigger an interrupt (serial handshake line or similar) for gta02 ? having PPS would be really nice... I wonder how hard it would be to add GSM time broadcast support to NTP... I've been told that time quality of GSM is (or at least has been?) _very_ bad, (errors from seconds to minutes, at least on germany) ?!? not exactly what you'd expect as time source for ntp then ;-) Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Use gps for clock correction
Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this as soon as the gps chip knows the gps time. Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:58:21 +0200 Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this as soon as the gps chip knows the gps time. Yeah, it's a nice idea. It is actually on my todo list for fso milestone 3. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
Daniel Willmann wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:58:21 +0200 Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this as soon as the gps chip knows the gps time. Yeah, it's a nice idea. It is actually on my todo list for fso milestone 3. Regards, Daniel Willmann Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? ~ Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example. If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to develop a patch just let us know. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
The GPS can be used for both time and time zone... On 8/14/08, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example. If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to develop a patch just let us know. regards Stefan Schmidt -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can it handle gps-data? Stefan Schmidt schrieb: | Hello. | | On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: | Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? | | Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for | it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example. | | If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to develop a | patch just let us know. | | regards | Stefan Schmidt | | - | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpGaalYiDScJJ+7QRAgABAJ9jko8GgpSnzfOTB1QC+YpvMM93RQCgqqlz vwBgaWoy3jGHUYWp2nf/2UA= =kwjj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 18:31, Federico Lorenzi wrote: The GPS can be used for both time and time zone... [Snip full quoted text] That is also a planned. :) Daniel has this still on his todo list, but is busy with PDU handling. As far as I know some community developer volunteered to work on it. Always nice to see this. We will include it in the next milestone when it is ready in time. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use gps for clock correction
Bastian Muck wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can it handle gps-data? Yes, with some work: http://time.qnan.org/ Does the FR have access to the PPS signal from the GPS chip? That might get it down to tens of microseconds of clock jitter. :) It looks like gpsd should work as well. Plus, ntp can fall back on NTP over GPRS/wifi/usb if it's been a while since the last GPS connection. It can also set the hardware clock skew so it drifts fewer minutes per day when there's no network or sky. I wonder how hard it would be to add GSM time broadcast support to NTP... -Rusty Stefan Schmidt schrieb: | Hello. | | On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: | Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? | | Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for | it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example. | | If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to develop a | patch just let us know. | | regards | Stefan Schmidt | | - | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpGaalYiDScJJ+7QRAgABAJ9jko8GgpSnzfOTB1QC+YpvMM93RQCgqqlz vwBgaWoy3jGHUYWp2nf/2UA= =kwjj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community