Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
You're really willing to replace a HSDPA dongle by a 40 kbit/s connection over the Neos GSM modem? Well, everybody has different dreams - I wouldn't change my 6500 kbit/s to 40 kbit/s because it looks better. On 4/18/08, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There may not be a built-in way to activate it, but it'll be in > > there... it's part of bluez. It may require some 3rd party work to > > make it easy to get at. > > > > > SettingsGUI has a bit of a start at making this viable .. I imagine once > things settle down with the release, this feature will flesh out pretty > rapidly. I know quite a few people (myself included) who would like to use > their GPRS accounts with the Freerunner/neo1973, and if it weren't for the > fact that my neo is currently *always* unusable because of my non-stable > development work, I'd be using it as a replacement for my current USB HDSPA > dongle, which sucks the cool out of my EEEPC by giving me a dongly tether to > deal with on the train. It'd be much better if my EEEPC could talk > wirelessly to my OM phone, and have the OM phone be the Internet router I've > always dreamed of .. > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
There may not be a built-in way to activate it, but it'll be in there... it's part of bluez. It may require some 3rd party work to make it easy to get at. SettingsGUI has a bit of a start at making this viable .. I imagine once things settle down with the release, this feature will flesh out pretty rapidly. I know quite a few people (myself included) who would like to use their GPRS accounts with the Freerunner/neo1973, and if it weren't for the fact that my neo is currently *always* unusable because of my non-stable development work, I'd be using it as a replacement for my current USB HDSPA dongle, which sucks the cool out of my EEEPC by giving me a dongly tether to deal with on the train. It'd be much better if my EEEPC could talk wirelessly to my OM phone, and have the OM phone be the Internet router I've always dreamed of .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
On to, 2008-04-17 at 10:20 -0600, Brad Midgley wrote: > The bluez daemon for this, dund, stands in as a virtual modem, so the > underlying network connection could be provided by gprs, wifi, pan, or > even another dun. Oh my. Indeed, I forgot to mention another fun example of what you can do, which you touch upon here: Have the FreeRunner share its wifi access with a nearby 1973 through bluetooth ;) -- Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> University of Helsinki ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
Hey > Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't > have a Wireless network card? Well... There may not be a built-in way to activate it, but it'll be in there... it's part of bluez. It may require some 3rd party work to make it easy to get at. The bluez daemon for this, dund, stands in as a virtual modem, so the underlying network connection could be provided by gprs, wifi, pan, or even another dun. For contrast, the windows mobile dun service apparently connects the client directly to the gsm chip so it rules out a lot of possibilities. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
On to, 2008-04-17 at 17:48 +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote: > Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't > have a Wireless network card? Well... Indeed. The great thing about an open phone like this is that it's possible, for simpler cases even easy to network it any way you like (it does get a little more complex the more interfaces you want to use, and of course, writing a good GUI interface to support the flexibility might be hard...) Anyway, as to the original question, yeah, want to use the phone's GPRS connection over Bluetooth DUN and/or BNEP? Not a problem. Want to use the connection through a USB cable? Sure. Over an ad-hoc wifi network (sadly, FreeRunner's chip not supporting access point mode)? Why not. Use FreeRunner's Wifi interface from the USB-attached computer to talk to a local wireless network? Yeah, that's what you already implied ;) All of the above, simultaneously? But of course! Expect to tune a bit though. Presumably the OM guys or Somebody(TM) will crack up a light GUI for the simple cases of BT and USB tethering. Since this is slightly relevant, I'll mention some braindumping of mine and some others on the wiki on the subject: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:USB_Networking -- Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> University of Helsinki ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
Things get way more interesting with the FreeRunner however. Don't have a Wireless network card? Well... You get the idea :) Cheers, Federico On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It should be possible over GPRS > > > > On 4/17/08, Philip M. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, all. Like many others, I am eagerly awaiting the release of > > Freerunner. A showstopper, however, would be if Freerunner could not > > support Dial-Up Networking. > > > > Right now I have a Samsung SGH-T509 phone that allows me to tether my > > laptop to it over a proprietary serial-USB or a Bluetooth connection. > > Once I physically connect the phone to my laptop, the phone appears as a > > serial dial-up modem. Then it's a simple matter of "dialing" a special > > number that T-Mobile provides me with, and I get an IP address. > > > > Does Freerunner's firmware/software support this feature? > > > > -- > > Philip > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > -- > Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: > http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Freerunner have DUN support?
It should be possible over GPRS On 4/17/08, Philip M. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, all. Like many others, I am eagerly awaiting the release of > Freerunner. A showstopper, however, would be if Freerunner could not > support Dial-Up Networking. > > Right now I have a Samsung SGH-T509 phone that allows me to tether my > laptop to it over a proprietary serial-USB or a Bluetooth connection. > Once I physically connect the phone to my laptop, the phone appears as a > serial dial-up modem. Then it's a simple matter of "dialing" a special > number that T-Mobile provides me with, and I get an IP address. > > Does Freerunner's firmware/software support this feature? > > -- > Philip > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Will Freerunner have DUN support?
Hi, all. Like many others, I am eagerly awaiting the release of Freerunner. A showstopper, however, would be if Freerunner could not support Dial-Up Networking. Right now I have a Samsung SGH-T509 phone that allows me to tether my laptop to it over a proprietary serial-USB or a Bluetooth connection. Once I physically connect the phone to my laptop, the phone appears as a serial dial-up modem. Then it's a simple matter of "dialing" a special number that T-Mobile provides me with, and I get an IP address. Does Freerunner's firmware/software support this feature? -- Philip ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
