Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. Another option: Short the too small capacitors, so there are no capacitors at all. Then add the big caps outside the screeming, but this time with no need to connect to anything inside the screening. Just break the connection anywhere, and insert a nice big cap. The easiest place of all then, is obviously to add the caps to the headset. Of course then you only have one useable headset. Yes, that's one of the options discussed, along with some resistors you might like to remove. You could put the caps in a 2.5mm to 3.5mm ( or even 1/4in) adaptor cable to make it usable with generic headphones. I don't personally like this solution for 2 reasons; one day I will forget and stick dc on a headset, and it will probably prevent use of the serial debug interface to the gsm. The second objection won't be a consideration for the vast majority of people though. Or break the connection between the plug and circuit board, and put the caps somewhere inside. There is lots of room above the SIM card. This is harder than it sounds IIRC, but feel free to try. I had my eye on that space for caps too as the existing caps are very close to it. You could make a small hole in the screening can to pass the wires through, but would need to be careful to avoid creating an rf pathway. Seems I wasn't clear enough. My second suggestion was to put the caps above the SIM, but *without* a hole in the screening. No new way for buzz to get in then! Electrically, this is the same as the caps in headset variant, but with the advantage that any headset will work because the caps is now between the plug and the shielded unit. (The small caps inside the shield must still be shorted.) There will be some wires, but they will go between the caps and the plug. These wires might pick up something, but it will be the same stuff that the headset wires pick up already. Presumably, the circuit board way into the shielded area is protected, or a plain headset would cause buzz too? My hope is that the plug is so big, that re-soldering it won't require special skills. And the small caps can apperently be shorted without soldering, as suggested on the hw list. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. Another option: Short the too small capacitors, so there are no capacitors at all. Then add the big caps outside the screeming, but this time with no need to connect to anything inside the screening. Just break the connection anywhere, and insert a nice big cap. The easiest place of all then, is obviously to add the caps to the headset. Of course then you only have one useable headset. Or break the connection between the plug and circuit board, and put the caps somewhere inside. There is lots of room above the SIM card. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. Another option: Short the too small capacitors, so there are no capacitors at all. Then add the big caps outside the screeming, but this time with no need to connect to anything inside the screening. Just break the connection anywhere, and insert a nice big cap. The easiest place of all then, is obviously to add the caps to the headset. Of course then you only have one useable headset. Yes, that's one of the options discussed, along with some resistors you might like to remove. You could put the caps in a 2.5mm to 3.5mm ( or even 1/4in) adaptor cable to make it usable with generic headphones. I don't personally like this solution for 2 reasons; one day I will forget and stick dc on a headset, and it will probably prevent use of the serial debug interface to the gsm. The second objection won't be a consideration for the vast majority of people though. Or break the connection between the plug and circuit board, and put the caps somewhere inside. There is lots of room above the SIM card. This is harder than it sounds IIRC, but feel free to try. I had my eye on that space for caps too as the existing caps are very close to it. You could make a small hole in the screening can to pass the wires through, but would need to be careful to avoid creating an rf pathway. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Because the bass fix is not easy to fix. I can say it is very hard to fix, because the series capacitor on the output of amplifier is located under the metal plate and no large capacitor can be soldered here. I have fixed it with connecting capacitors (220uF) outside PCB and creating hole in metal plate. It is connected with wires, but soldering it on the PCB under the crease of metal plate (located very close to border) is freak. And may be, OM engineers have no courage to recommend it. But after implementation it plays very good. But - i don't use it as phone so i don't know, if it has no RF noise. Yorick Moko wrote: only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well I would hate to get two things fixed, and have to fix a third one a week later... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freerunner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2220259.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Hi Arne, On Tuesday 13 January 2009 16:26:00 arne anka wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? no there aren't any. THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO REASON (to put in pure caps, as you just did) i read the list about this buzz-issue since months. And i fully agree drac2000. There isn't ANY recent update from OM regarding this. So please OM update about the current technical state of the fixes and the current state of the purposed procedure. Greetings Torsten ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Am Tuesday 13 January 2009 22:57:57 schrieb Martin Bernreuther: Hello, Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 schrieb arne anka: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! PLEASE no more READ THE ARCHIVES platitudes! But more Wiki Links ;-) On the other side please no baseless accusation of the OM team! No. This should be no offense and I can understand that it's annoying, if people always ask the same questions. But... Recently I was searching for a solution to one of my various FR problems and Google pointed me to a archived email of someone asking the same on this list. Great! But when I read the answer read the archives (from arne anka) my problem was still not solved! If you watch somebody drowning, will you tell him it's wise to learn swimming or throw a lifesaver? Do you really expect a newbie to read all archived emails of the past (most of them maybe outdated). And this list is noisy! The focus might also change. Starting with distro A, someone might not follow a discussion with a problem of distro B. Changing to distro B, it's also hard to get all the information from the archives. Looking at the wiki, it's sometimes hard to find the right entry. With all these distros it's also sometimes confusing, which method works for which setup. It's hard to keep everything up to date with this sometimes fast development. If there's some outcome of a discussion, it should be gathered on the wiki. IMHO it's a waste of time, if all people read all these emails in the archives in the first place. Usually people first read books to get a basic knowledge and articles as a supplement for the latest news. It's not common e.g. to learn the basics of physics reading all the letters between physicist of the last centuries, but reading a book accumulating the results. Sorry for that off-topic email (no one should feel offended) and special thanks to the wiki writers! Regards, Martin Bernreuther Martin, you just said what was floating around my mind (in one shape or another...) since a few days. We should _always_ stimulate people to add their knowledge to the wiki when a problem gets solved or when news get announced here. Actually finding something on a wiki is wy easier than searching in millions of mails, each month on its own. Especially on such a high-traffic (and kinda noisy, as you said. That's is nothing bad, that's why its a mailinglist and not a wiki!) I repeat myself: We successfully got so far and nearly every distro-specific thread is tagged accordingly - now it would be helpful to tell people that editing the wiki is no sin. :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello Christoph, Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! Thx I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this potential solution to finally bring the GTA02 to real real life. I mean, it was OK to find out resellers for the phone around the world, but now when it comes to make it daily phone specially with potential solution like this :confused: I think they can help us (no electronic DIY specialists) finding places to apply those fixes (buzz, bass, ...) Even the frequent community updates are not referring to this point which is very important !! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freerunner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2151448.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 03:57:31PM +0100, arne anka escribió: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! arne, Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I agree with you arne anka, buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well I would hate to get two things fixed, and have to fix a third one a week later... On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
then unsubscribe from this list...or just don't read such emails... Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:26:00 +0100 Von: arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur) Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I will not take it personal even if I think it is not the right way to comment.. I am sorry if my post hurts anyone All I wanted to say is that I expected that those hardware issues would be a priority (including debuging, testing, proposals etc...) than start dilema about GTA03, distros... All this because I beleive in the open community, in OM and in my FR. And i'm kind of frustrated to not be able to use my FR as my daily, now that I have it for +6 months I apologize if I express it the wrong way, but I think I can express my opinion without being scolded All my respects to you OM drac. arne anka wrote: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freerunner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2151776.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... Regarding to searches, you could try staring with these two: http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/index.html?cx=01843063342716089%3Aszsaurhronwcof=FORID%3A9q=buzz+fixsa=OpenmokoSearch#1167 http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/index.html?cx=01843063342716089%3Aszsaurhronwcof=FORID%3A9q=gsm+fixsa=OpenmokoSearch#1186 Hope this helps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Hello, Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 schrieb arne anka: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! PLEASE no more READ THE ARCHIVES platitudes! But more Wiki Links ;-) On the other side please no baseless accusation of the OM team! No. This should be no offense and I can understand that it's annoying, if people always ask the same questions. But... Recently I was searching for a solution to one of my various FR problems and Google pointed me to a archived email of someone asking the same on this list. Great! But when I read the answer read the archives (from arne anka) my problem was still not solved! If you watch somebody drowning, will you tell him it's wise to learn swimming or throw a lifesaver? Do you really expect a newbie to read all archived emails of the past (most of them maybe outdated). And this list is noisy! The focus might also change. Starting with distro A, someone might not follow a discussion with a problem of distro B. Changing to distro B, it's also hard to get all the information from the archives. Looking at the wiki, it's sometimes hard to find the right entry. With all these distros it's also sometimes confusing, which method works for which setup. It's hard to keep everything up to date with this sometimes fast development. If there's some outcome of a discussion, it should be gathered on the wiki. IMHO it's a waste of time, if all people read all these emails in the archives in the first place. Usually people first read books to get a basic knowledge and articles as a supplement for the latest news. It's not common e.g. to learn the basics of physics reading all the letters between physicist of the last centuries, but reading a book accumulating the results. Sorry for that off-topic email (no one should feel offended) and special thanks to the wiki writers! Regards, Martin Bernreuther -- _ Martin Bernreuther martinb...@web.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I'm currently playing by setting control.45 - De-emphasis to 48khz to get some sort of a bass boost. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: adding a large cap somewhere Joerg /DocScrutinizer told me once on IRC the value, but don't know where to place it, better aks him On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Which is...? -- Marcel Am Sunday 11 January 2009 22:04:20 schrieb Yorick Moko: there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger krose...@schmidham.net wrote: Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
El día Sunday, January 11, 2009 a las 12:23:00PM +0200, Christoph Pulster escribió: Actually I think the American distributors and Golden Delicious have better offers (I didn't compare shipping costs). Just take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors Thanks for this helpful list, Marko. I offer now Freerunner GTA02 for 249 eur = c.335 USD. Shipping flat rate 15 eur Europe/ 30 eur world. Local VAT, manual and sweets included. Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Hello Christoph, Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! Thx matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers) -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger krose...@schmidham.net wrote: Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Which is...? -- Marcel Am Sunday 11 January 2009 22:04:20 schrieb Yorick Moko: there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger krose...@schmidham.net wrote: Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
adding a large cap somewhere Joerg /DocScrutinizer told me once on IRC the value, but don't know where to place it, better aks him On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Which is...? -- Marcel Am Sunday 11 January 2009 22:04:20 schrieb Yorick Moko: there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger krose...@schmidham.net wrote: Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
