Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. If it only overwrites the first 512 bytes you can surely easily recover these back by just running only the partitioning stage of the installer? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Ok, my problem was, that i tried to suspend and resume without zhone running. After starting zhone and using the original kernel suspend and resume works without problems when pressing the power button. But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button without zhone? Because most time i don't run zhone at the moment and i don't know if i will in the future. Ciao, Rainer arne anka wrote: I already use the newest kernel with debian. 2008-08-31 21:29:43,869 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_message self._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/bin/X11/zhone, line 1962, in cbEvent self.gsm_device_iface.PrepareForSuspend() File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. that's what zhone.log says, when i press pwr to send the fr into sleep with the buildhost kernel+modules from yesterday. Maybe i should try it with the default kernel instead. I have a little ... I would love to suspend my neo with a short press of the power button and resume it with another press. :) well, with the default (installation) kernel that works. i'm switching back right now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button without zhone? probably not -- that's because of the development staus of fso and the nature of zhone. zhone is an app to test all the features of fso -- if you look into zhone.log you'll see that even the pwr presshold is received and handled by zhone -- which makes sense for a test application. what's necessary is to split zhone in it's parts or rather take the interesting parts from zhone (dialer, sms, contacts, event handling) and create separate applications/daemons from it. i think shr was somehow supposed to do that (by porting applications to fso), but if they do, their work does not show up in the debian-fso repo so far. does anyone know a good intrduction into python, dbus and fso? i'd like to have a look into it every time i attempted to something else came up and diverted my attention ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 13:41, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know which one is better, but after a short test with apm -s i found out that the script in the suspend.d dir is not executed at suspend. :/ These scripts worked well for me (tested on trolltech's qtopia), but it failed when I first tried (oops partition table gone again...). = I guess that was because I had not set execution rights on the script files. After I did, it worked. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hehe you got me. Now i see that i forgot to chmod +x the scripts. :) I tried it again and the scripts are executed as expected. Only problem is that after one suspend/resume cycle it doesn't go into suspend (with zhone and power button) anymore until i reboot. But i think i read about this problem in other mails, so i have to search a bit more for a solution. :) Ciao, Rainer Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 13:41, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know which one is better, but after a short test with apm -s i found out that the script in the suspend.d dir is not executed at suspend. :/ These scripts worked well for me (tested on trolltech's qtopia), but it failed when I first tried (oops partition table gone again...). = I guess that was because I had not set execution rights on the script files. After I did, it worked. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIumXsr81gVylJyzERAitHAJ9m8z2RFnM/XFPr+Fv+rftL8rwHuQCgvmiJ kyT+1YgSnvbFyB5OM4R0Kcs= =FyC0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIumvHr81gVylJyzERAu/iAKDwYZ6v/VzMFrvA+2CxVaaB/xhSMwCglWqv slj/zVnjj27rJu11CyEv7Yk= =xdP7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating in this mailinglist? I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend. Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for them. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/ resume - - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend - but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating in this mailinglist? I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend. Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for them. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIunHgr81gVylJyzERAqdkAKDtcbEDyYutspGiYThzw7YbLHEJBwCgreXA 52dzrMPLAf9uLN16r+tGnqg= =oGSc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
I tried to use suspend/resume with debian and the sd_idleclk scripts for fixing the sd-card bug. I found two versions of the sd card bugfix. One with the apm.o version from Christian Adams (which is in the wiki page) and one with two scripts in /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d (which i would prefer) from -stacy. I don't know which one is better, but after a short test with apm -s i found out that the script in the suspend.d dir is not executed at suspend. :/ But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo. How would i do this? The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button and the resume function is not given by default even though it is written in the debian wiki page. How could i realize this connection for resuming with the power button? At the moment i had to pull out the battery to get my neo out of suspend and starting again. :( Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And voilá - debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day! :D -Marcel Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams: i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/ resume - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend - but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating in this mailinglist? I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend. Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for them. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And voilá - debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day! :D -Marcel Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams: i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/ resume - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend - but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating in this mailinglist? I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend. Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for them. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Then suspending doesn't work properly for you. Normally, you push the power button once shortly and the neo should be back nearly immediately. The moment you remove the battery it boots normally since s2ram needs some energy to save the state. :) (is it s2ram what apm -s does?! s2disk would be different...) -Marcel Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 13:41:32 schrieb Fox Mulder: snip But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo. How would i do this? The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button and the resume function is not given by default even though it is written in the debian wiki page. How could i realize this connection for resuming with the power button? At the moment i had to pull out the battery to get my neo out of suspend and starting again. :( Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And voilá - debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day! :D -Marcel Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams: i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/ resume - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend - but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder: When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating in this mailinglist? I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend. Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for them. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Try to update the kernel (don't forget the modules) take the modules tgz and uImage from there -- http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080830/ depmod and don't forget to add g_ether to your /etc/modules (for the usb0 to work) yea it is s2ram, s2disk would take much more time and would not be usable if ur using freerunner as a phone (that's what i think, what's the fastest s2disk can do? ) But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo. How would i do this? The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button and the resume function is not given by default even though it is written in the debian wiki page. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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i have this problem quite often. I noticed that it is sufficient to re-create the partition table using fdisk. All your data should be still on your card. However, the partition sizes have to match. Just remember the values when creating and re-use them. On Sunday 31 August 2008 12:00:39 Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
I already use the newest kernel with debian. Maybe i should try it with the default kernel instead. I have a little issue with all newer kernels than the original supplied one by debian install. With all new kernels the mouse cursor pops a few pixel below the position i touched the screen and then goes up to the right position. but the click is recognized just below. This is really annoying because i have to touch a few pixels above everything i want to click and a calibration doesn't correct this problem. Everything else works just fine with the new kernels. I would love to suspend my neo with a short press of the power button and resume it with another press. :) Flyin_bbb8 wrote: Try to update the kernel (don't forget the modules) take the modules tgz and uImage from there -- http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080830/ depmod and don't forget to add g_ether to your /etc/modules (for the usb0 to work) yea it is s2ram, s2disk would take much more time and would not be usable if ur using freerunner as a phone (that's what i think, what's the fastest s2disk can do? ) But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo. How would i do this? The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button and the resume function is not given by default even though it is written in the debian wiki page. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
I already use the newest kernel with debian. 2008-08-31 21:29:43,869 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_message self._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/bin/X11/zhone, line 1962, in cbEvent self.gsm_device_iface.PrepareForSuspend() File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. that's what zhone.log says, when i press pwr to send the fr into sleep with the buildhost kernel+modules from yesterday. Maybe i should try it with the default kernel instead. I have a little ... I would love to suspend my neo with a short press of the power button and resume it with another press. :) well, with the default (installation) kernel that works. i'm switching back right now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community