FIXED! Re: About infra maintenance [was: Re: openmoko.org servers]
agni got shiny new hardware, so all downtime problems should be fixed now :-D https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/agni/agni.openmoko.org.html also admin trac is back again, so in case any other part of OM infra has whatever issue, please consider https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/login (if you're no friend of the low overhead approach to ping me on IRC, as suggested before) Cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org servers
servers are not hosted or owned by FIC WHOIS: Domain ID:D129289086-LROR Domain Name:OPENMOKO.ORG ... Expiration Date:21-Sep-2013 00:12:03 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR) ... Registrant Name:Sean Moss-Pultz Registrant Organization:OpenMoko Registrant Street1:No 300 Yang Guang St ... Registrant City:NeiHu Registrant State/Province:Taipei Registrant Postal Code:114 Registrant Country:TW ... Admin Name:Sean Moss-Pultz ... Tech Name:Sean Moss-Pultz ... Tech Email:s...@openmoko.com Name Server:ORGO.PROGSOC.UTS.EDU.AU Name Server:GANESHA.GNUMONKS.ORG Name Server:CORUSCANT.GNUMONKS.ORG Name Server:SUNBEAM.HMW-CONSULTING.DE Name Server:DNS.NETFILTER.ORG admins are still Roh and Gismo afaik ownership (aka payment) went to Harald Welte (see Name Server above) machines are located at Hetzner Germany TRACEROUTE: 6 hos-tr2.ex3k10.rz13.hetzner.de (213.239.224.43) 254.795 ms hos- tr1.ex3k10.rz13.hetzner.de (213.239.224.11) 253.727 ms hos- tr2.ex3k10.rz13.hetzner.de (213.239.224.43) 252.597 ms 7 bhavani.openmoko.org (88.198.58.17) 55.937 ms 60.101 ms 63.387 ms 8 devi.openmoko.org (88.198.93.221) 68.188 ms 72.427 ms 76.945 ms Seems one machine is down right now, I pinged Roh what's the matter. /j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org servers
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 13:40 +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
servers are not hosted or owned by FIC
WHOIS:
Domain ID:D129289086-LROR
Domain Name:OPENMOKO.ORG
The IP addresses used by the hosts I listed are all registered to FIC:
rah@myrtle:~$ host 88.198.160.201
201.160.198.88.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer git.openmoko.org.
rah@myrtle:~$ whois 88.198.160.201
...
inetnum:88.198.160.200 - 88.198.160.207
netname:FIRST-INTERNATIONAL-COMPUTER-INC
descr: First International Computer, Inc.
country:DE
admin-c:SM8835-RIPE
tech-c: SM8835-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: HOS-GUN
mnt-lower: HOS-GUN
mnt-routes: HOS-GUN
source: RIPE # Filtered
person: Sean Moss-Pultz
address:First International Computer, Inc.
address:300, Yang Guang Street
address:114 Taipei
address:TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA
e-mail: lafo...@openmoko.org
phone: +49 3024033902
fax-no: +49 3024033904
mnt-by: HOS-GUN
nic-hdl:SM8835-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered
admins are still Roh and Gismo afaik
ownership (aka payment) went to Harald Welte (see Name Server above)
I'm a little confused. Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but why haven't
any of these people responded to my original email?
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About infra maintenance [was: Re: openmoko.org servers]
admins are still Roh and Gismo afaik ownership (aka payment) went to Harald Welte (see Name Server above) I'm a little confused. Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but why haven't any of these people responded to my original email? All the people doing admin and other tasks are volunteers from community, and probably Roh doesn't closely follow this ML (I myself only noticed this mail since pabs3 pointed me at it). Anyway, best advice when any problems with OM infra hit: * join #openmoko (or #openmoko-cdevel) on freenode.net, * say hello and describe the issue, ask what can be / has been done and whom to ping (typical post: Hi! wiki.openmoko.org down for anybody else?) * WAIT until somebody answers - this may be minutes to several hours. (you'll always get my attention when you ping my nick DocScrutinizer, though usually most users in this channel have an idea of what's going on and how to proceed, and some are even better suited to deal with infra problems than I am) Roh can also be found on freenode, though I suggest not to immediately pester him directly but rather first ask in #openmoko-cdevel cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About infra maintenance [was: Re: openmoko.org servers]
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 17:05 +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Anyway, best advice when any problems with OM infra hit:
* join #openmoko (or #openmoko-cdevel) on freenode.net,
* say hello and describe the issue, ask what can be / has been done
and whom
to ping (typical post: Hi! wiki.openmoko.org down for anybody else?)
* WAIT until somebody answers - this may be minutes to several
hours.
It's ironic that you mention #openmoko-cdevel. Some months ago I asked
in #openmoko-cdevel when git.openmoko.org was down. Nobody responded at
all, let alone after some hours.
I also asked in #openmoko-cdevel prior to sending my email a couple of
days ago. Nobody knew who was maintaining the openmoko servers. The
fact that the IP addresses were still registered with FIC was pointed
out and it was agreed that this was a problem. Then I sent my email to
this list.
If the best advice for when there are problems with openmoko.org hosts,
is to bring the subject in #openmoko-cdevel then we really are in
trouble :-) Could you possibly provide email addresses for roh and
whoever else is responsible for the openmoko.org servers so that
everyone knows who to contact?
Thanks,
Bob
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Re: About infra maintenance [was: Re: openmoko.org servers]
Could you possibly provide email addresses for roh and whoever else is responsible for the openmoko.org servers so that everyone knows who to contact? According to Roh the standard way to report any problems with openmoko infrastructure is via https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ Alas this obviously won't work when it's exactly the machine running this trac that is down. So on freenode IRC you /join #openmoko-cdevel and proceed as suggested, and if you manage to ping me, you'll receive an answer. I think these are two feasible ways to deal with issues regarding infra, and one of them will work. No need to invent your own procedure, even though you might think it's more effective, there are reasons it probably isn't. Thanks for taking notice. Best Regards jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org servers
2012/3/25 Bob Ham r...@bash.sh: admins are still Roh and Gismo afaik ownership (aka payment) went to Harald Welte (see Name Server above) I'm a little confused. Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but why haven't any of these people responded to my original email? I'd guess Roh and Gismo are mostly acting as people that are able to do something in case of emergency, but are working on other things. Harald has his hands in so many important things that I'd guess he cannot follow everything everywhere while doing all the work he's doing, but he has initially been the one that acted to keep things working and donated the money. I'd appreciate, though, a complete periodical mirroring of data (and a report and so has been done): - mailing lists can probably be just crawled? - wiki should be possible to save even without admin help with a couple of scripts utilizing pages http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Allpages and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Export - git:s could obviously be pushed all to gitorious as mirrors Those there would be a good start. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko.org servers
Hi there,
The git.openmoko.org host often goes down for long periods and it's
becoming a problem, not to mention annoying. I've been labouring under
the impression that the openmoko.org domain was taken over by the
community. However, having done some dns and whois queries, it appears
that the domain and all of the servers within it are still under the
control of FIC. In particular, these hosts:
88.198.93.219shakti.openmoko.org
CNAME downloads.openmoko.org
88.198.93.221 devi.openmoko.org
CNAMEwww.openmoko.org
CNAME wiki.openmoko.org
88.198.124.203 sita.openmoko.org
CNAME lists.openmoko.org
CNAME planet.openmoko.org
88.198.148.21 docs.openmoko.org
CNAMEsvn.openmoko.org
88.198.160.201 git.openmoko.org
According to the WHOIS database, the IP ranges that cover theses hosts
are all assigned to FIC and each have their admin and technical contact
recorded as Sean Moss-Pultz.
This situation strikes me as very precarious. FIC has essentially
abandoned the openmoko phone hardware/software project. Some of the
hosts are unreliable. Meanwhile, they store three things of great
importance:
1. Vital technical information about the GTA01 and GTA02 phones.
2. Sources for working openmoko software, including kernel trees.
3. A complete history for essentially the whole endeavour, in the form
of mailing list archives (including this list).
I think this information should be moved away from FIC-hosted servers.
It should be firstly archived and secondly more reliable access needs to
be provided for the git and svn servers.
I wonder, Sean, whether you are able to provide the raw data stored on
these hosts so that the services might be replicated or moved elsewhere?
And even whether the openmoko.org domain could be relinquished to the
community?
There are a number of organisations that spring to mind as able to offer
hosting for this kind of effort: the Open Source Lab at Oregon State
University¹, The Linux Foundation², The Internet Archive³, ibiblio⁴
(what used to be UNC's SunSITE), etc.
I'm curious to know what others in the community think about this?
Regards,
Bob
¹ http://osuosl.org/about-osuosl
² http://www.linuxfoundation.org/labs
³ http://archive.org/about/about.php
⁴ http://www.ibiblio.org/about/
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