Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 28.01.2013 um 03:06 schrieb Harry Prevor:

 On 11/10/12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500
 Harry Prevor habsti...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 10/31/12, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote:
 Hi Paul,
 
 I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
 today.
 
 Thanks for pointing it out.
 
 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,
 
 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do
 so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
 
 Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
 to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
 only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
 very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
 few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
 forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 
 Neither of the two methods you mention actually stop spam being posted.
 Humans register and then post the spam.
 I'm sure that a few persons could have write access, and that the wiki
 owner could consider your request.
 
 Well, it's been over two months and the wiki is still read-only. I was
 under the impression this was supposed to be temporary; when will this
 be fixed? I often find incorrect information in wiki articles and I'm
 all-too-frequently frustrated by the fact that I can't fix it.

Openmoko is dead - long live OpenPhoenux :)

-- hns

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread robin
true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which
is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at gta04.org
but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain information 
on openphoenux

robin


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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 28.01.2013 um 16:12 schrieb robin:

 true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which
 is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at 
 gta04.org
 but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain 
 information 
 on openphoenux

gta04.org is intended for information on GTA04 only,

while

openphoenux.org is intended for and open for any GTA0x.

I am not sure if it is possible to copy the MediaWiki from wiki.openmoko.org
to openphoenux.org (is there read access to the database? does it break links?).

And an important question is to find a handful of volunteers to moderate and 
clean it up.

Nikolaus



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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread robin
if the wiki can indeed be transferred, maybe you can do an official posting on
who would like to apply for write access. I would certainly like to tidy up
a couple of pages and add more recent information, but reading the gmane list
there are many others willing to do so as well.

br

robin



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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-12 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Sunday 11 November 2012 01:16:03 Paul Wise va escriure:
 On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:
 
  Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
  to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
  only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
  very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
  few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
  forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
 mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
 time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
 Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
 stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.

I was marking the pages as spam  puting them for speedy deletion and
stoped doing it to create a Perl bot so I can automate the process 
(lasty it were near a 100 pages daily).

I spend some days geting data and training classifiers and geting some vacation 
for Hallowen (in a place with bad GSM coverage) and after it linuxcon
and elce in Barcelona my home town and preparing a Perl course (held the last 
saturday)
with the local mongers had wasted my free time to read the list.

The bot is not ready but I have the title off all the pages with some of them 
clasified to
be used as traning or test sets.

You can count with my help (be it data or write acces of any kind).


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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-11 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 08:16:03AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:
 
  Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
  to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
  only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
  very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
  few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
  forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
 mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
 time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
 Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
 stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.
 

How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd 
really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the 
mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git,
and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with 
OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches'
back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching
to the mediawiki software than I want to think about.

I'd also like to be able to put the contents of the OpenMoko wiki on
a Wikireader, and having the DB would make this a bit easier.

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:

 How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd
 really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the
 mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git,
 and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with
 OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches'
 back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching
 to the mediawiki software than I want to think about.

Timo made a dump a while ago, I guess you should use his tools:

http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/wiki.openmoko.org/mirror-tools/

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-10 Thread Harry Prevor
On 10/31/12, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
 today.

 Thanks for pointing it out.

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,

 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
 since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
forever. Please reconsider this.

-- 
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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:

 Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
 to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
 only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
 very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
 few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
 forever. Please reconsider this.

The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/


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OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-10-31 Thread Paul Wise
Hi Harald, all,

To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

-- 
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pabs

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/


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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-10-31 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Paul,

I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
today.

Thanks for pointing it out.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,
 
 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
 since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
 
 -- 
 bye,
 pabs
 
 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/



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Re: wiki spam - urgent

2012-02-07 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Sunday 04 December 2011 21:32:29 Petr Vanek va escriure:
 Dear all, mainly old openmoko admins,
 
 we have been dealing with the spam attacks on wiki.openmoko.org quite
 successfully until now, but it s getting more and more
 difficult. I have now cleared over 600 posts (big THANKS to everyone,
 who keeps marking spams as for speedy deletion), which is about
 weekly/biweekly spam dosage, but as every page requires three clicks,
 you do the math for what muscle memory my fingers are developing :)

Hi Petr,

Could you actitivate the Editing API?

I think that we have enough spam data to 
make a spam marking boot and usign the editing api will make the task easier

 

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Re: wiki spam - urgent

2011-12-05 Thread Sebastian Reinhardt

Am 05.12.2011 03:23, schrieb Wolfgang Spraul:

We also need more people to be granted erase permissions, i think it is
clear from the logs who contributes and is eligible.

I apologize, it's not clear to me but I will add erase or admin
permissions if you give me a list of user names.

I do not believe this solves the bigger problem though, even though
the spam deletion efforts are truly amazing. Over on the Qi wiki, we
have a much more recent MediaWiki 1.18 or so with visual math captcha
etc. I think very soon the Openmoko community has to make a decision
whether we want to upgrade the MediaWiki version and include the
latest spam fighting extensions, or turn the entire wiki into a
read-only resource.

Thanks a lot for speaking up, and helping keep the Openmoko wiki
clean...
Cheers,
Wolfgang

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I think You should try captchas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA) 
to verify, which entry is made by an spambot and which not.


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Re: wiki spam - urgent

2011-12-05 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 I do not believe this solves the bigger problem though, even though
 the spam deletion efforts are truly amazing. Over on the Qi wiki, we
 have a much more recent MediaWiki 1.18 or so with visual math captcha
 etc. I think very soon the Openmoko community has to make a decision
 whether we want to upgrade the MediaWiki version and include the
 latest spam fighting extensions,
Although captchas can be easily handled by bots, I totally agree the
wiki engine should be updated. I have even created a ticket regarding
this, like years ago, but do not remember getting any response.
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wiki spam - urgent

2011-12-04 Thread Petr Vanek
Dear all, mainly old openmoko admins,

we have been dealing with the spam attacks on wiki.openmoko.org quite
successfully until now, but it s getting more and more
difficult. I have now cleared over 600 posts (big THANKS to everyone,
who keeps marking spams as for speedy deletion), which is about
weekly/biweekly spam dosage, but as every page requires three clicks,
you do the math for what muscle memory my fingers are developing :)

If there is anyone able to help from the admin side, suggestions have
been posted here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Vanous on
what could/should be implemented to eliminate spambots.

We also need more people to be granted erase permissions, i think it is
clear from the logs who contributes and is eligible.

If admins have no time, is there anyone with mediawiki experiences who
could implement the given suggestions easily (given they would need to
be granted some required access)? Please stand up. 

thank you

Petr


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Re: wiki spam - urgent

2011-12-04 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
 We also need more people to be granted erase permissions, i think it is
 clear from the logs who contributes and is eligible.

I apologize, it's not clear to me but I will add erase or admin
permissions if you give me a list of user names.

I do not believe this solves the bigger problem though, even though
the spam deletion efforts are truly amazing. Over on the Qi wiki, we
have a much more recent MediaWiki 1.18 or so with visual math captcha
etc. I think very soon the Openmoko community has to make a decision
whether we want to upgrade the MediaWiki version and include the
latest spam fighting extensions, or turn the entire wiki into a
read-only resource.

Thanks a lot for speaking up, and helping keep the Openmoko wiki
clean...
Cheers,
Wolfgang

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Re: Create a spam filter in Qtmoko

2011-04-13 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 22:29:17 Root Anonymous wrote:

  I have another question
  Now, i have a lot of spam with sms
  I would like to if it's possible with qtmoko to create a if the number is
 , the sms goes directly to the trash ?

It is possible, but you'd have to modify the source code - most likely the 
mail application:

https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/src/applications/qtmail

Regards

Radek

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Create a spam filter in Qtmoko

2011-04-12 Thread Root Anonymous
Hi

I have another question
Now, i have a lot of spam with sms 
I would like to if it's possible with qtmoko to create a if the number is , the sms goes directly to the trash ?

Regards


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Re: ****SPAM(7.5)****

2011-01-11 Thread Benjamin Deering



You are right, I did not have it on the top of my mind since I use the
workaround:

As a temporary workaround one can enable otimed subsystem in 
/etc/frameworkd.conf:

[otimed]
disable = 0

Would using otimed allow setting time from GSM and GPS like it used to?

Ben

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Re: ****SPAM(6.7)**** Re: backup battery and case screws questions

2010-10-24 Thread Benjamin Deering
Thanks,

I may continue to run with just one screw.   I searched for a while for 
a screw to match the specs given earlier, but haven't found any.  My FR 
with 2 screws gets much better reception the the FR with 1 screw (the 1 
screw is placed to make the antenna contact, so the missing screw may be 
irrelevant).

Ben

On 10/24/2010 02:37 PM, Paul Fertser wrote:
 Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org  writes:

 I use an allen (hex) wrench to remove them, I am seeking replacements
 because I lost one.
  
 FYI i'm using my gta02 as my only daily cell phone for more than a
 year without any screws whatsoever.




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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-16 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Spam is still coming.
Final attempt:

Privacy Options  Sender filters
Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit
action is defined. =discard
Should messages from non-members, which are automatically discarded,
be forwarded to the list moderator?  =no

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-14 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Ok, this issue is not solved yet. Now I got spam to
xxx-commits-bou...@projects.openmoko.org

In mailinglist options there are [Bounce processing].
There are many 'yes'-ticks, I really do not understand what all of
them means. I just disabled the first Should Mailman perform
automatic bounce processing?.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
I think I found rigth way. When you get moderator request waiting mail:
mailing list has 1
request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

   http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/...


Click link and give password. Then click first link on the page, it
has same name than mailinglist. Then Privacy options-Sender filters.
There are option Action to take when a moderated member posts to the
list.   Change mark from Hold to Discard.
And then submit.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 12.08.2009 um 09:25 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:

 I think I found rigth way. When you get moderator request waiting  
 mail:
 mailing list has 1
 request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/...


 Click link and give password. Then click first link on the page, it
 has same name than mailinglist. Then Privacy options-Sender filters.
 There are option Action to take when a moderated member posts to the
 list.   Change mark from Hold to Discard.
 And then submit.

 -Aapo Rantalainen


maybe dumb question .. but which password did you enter?
none of my passwords at projects.om match ..

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Yogiz
Sorry but where do I get the admin password? It's not the same as my
login password in projects.openmoko.org.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:25:30 +0300
Aapo Rantalainen aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think I found rigth way. When you get moderator request waiting
 mail: mailing list has 1
 request(s) waiting for your consideration at:
 
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/...
 
 
 Click link and give password. Then click first link on the page, it
 has same name than mailinglist. Then Privacy options-Sender filters.
 There are option Action to take when a moderated member posts to the
 list.   Change mark from Hold to Discard.
 And then submit.
 
 -Aapo Rantalainen
 
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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my project:

--
A mailing list will be created on OpenMokoProjects in 6-24 hours
and you are the list administrator.

This list is: xlogical-comm...@lists.projects.openmoko.org .

Your mailing list info is at:
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xlogical-commits .

List administration can be found at:
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/xlogical-commits .

Your list password is: 
You are encouraged to change this password as soon as possible.

Thank you for registering your project with OpenMokoProjects.

-- the OpenMokoProjects staff
--

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 12.08.2009 um 10:46 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:

 I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my  
 project:

 --
 A mailing list will be created on OpenMokoProjects in 6-24 hours
 and you are the list administrator.

 This list is: xlogical-comm...@lists.projects.openmoko.org .

 Your mailing list info is at:
 http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ 
 xlogical-commits .

 List administration can be found at:
 http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/xlogical- 
 commits .

 Your list password is: 
 You are encouraged to change this password as soon as possible.

 Thank you for registering your project with OpenMokoProjects.

 -- the OpenMokoProjects staff
 --

ARRG!
thx

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams
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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Tansella
Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 10:46:03 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:
 I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my project:

Thanks ;-)

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how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-11 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Hi, I have turned off all mailinglists of my project on
projects.openmoko.org.  I have svn enabled and I get spam to address
name-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org


As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:
Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list


What I can do about these? Should I block all messages to commits?
(how I do it?)  Is there any other solution than disabling svn?

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

2009-08-11 Thread Yogiz
Yeah, I could use that info as well. I just deleted the commits mailing
list and it's been fine since.

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:30:59 +0300
Aapo Rantalainen aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I have turned off all mailinglists of my project on
 projects.openmoko.org.  I have svn enabled and I get spam to address
 name-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
 
 
 As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
 following mailing list posting:
 Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list
 
 
 What I can do about these? Should I block all messages to commits?
 (how I do it?)  Is there any other solution than disabling svn?
 
 -Aapo Rantalainen
 
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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-08-01 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,
Am 31.07.2009 um 11:16 schrieb Michael Tansella:

 OK I just deleted the mailing list - I don't need it

 Greets
 Michael

dumb question: how? maybe i'm to blind to find where/how ..
.. lack of sleep maybe ..

cheers
christian (morlac) adams

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-08-01 Thread Michael Tansella
Am Samstag, 1. August 2009 10:23:05 schrieb Christian Adams:
 moinmoin,

 Am 31.07.2009 um 11:16 schrieb Michael Tansella:
  OK I just deleted the mailing list - I don't need it
 
  Greets
  Michael

 dumb question: how? maybe i'm to blind to find where/how ..
 .. lack of sleep maybe ..

you go to projects.openmoko.org
log in
go to your projects overview
choose tab mailinglist
admin
remove

But unfortunately I still get this Mail every day from that now non existing 
mailing list.

Beste Grüße
Michael

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Tansella
OK I just deleted the mailing list - I don't need it

Greets 
Michael

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Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Tansella
HI,
I'm the developer of openmokoder project: 
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/
Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator 
request(s) waiting  but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at 
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits
 because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. 
Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
� VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

Any hints?

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread sriranjan
Michael Tansella wrote:
 HI,
 I'm the developer of openmokoder project: 
 http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokoder/
 Since 3 days I get mails with subject Openmokoder-commits moderator 
 request(s) waiting  but unfortunately I'm unable to log in at 
 http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits
  because of wrong password. But I'm pretty shure that it is correct. 
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

 Any hints?

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site  
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

to what address do you get that spam?
faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent  
allegedly from my address.
simply ignore it.

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site  
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
 

 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent  
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.

   

I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael:



The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1
request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits

Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.


Pending posts:
From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list



Bye.



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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

so? what part don't you understand?
the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever  
encountered you spam and hope for the best.
it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of  
spam?

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list
 

 so? what part don't you understand?
 the usual kind of spamming -- send to each and every address ever  
 encountered you spam and hope for the best.
 it's an issue for years now, did you honestly never encounter that kind of  
 spam?


   
No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me 
of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the 
usual spam. It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Tansella
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:45:08 schrieb arne anka:
  Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
  � VIAGRA � Official Site
  openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org

 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.

It's the Mail address I'm registered at projects.openmoko.org. But my main 
problem is that I can not log in at 
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/openmokoder-commits so I 
get this Openmokoder-commits moderator request(s) waiting mail every day

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread arne anka
 No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
 of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.

???
nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.

 Furthermore my email address is not mentioned inside the message as the
 usual spam.

???

 It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...

still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
the quotes of spam.

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,
Am 30.07.2009 um 10:57 schrieb DJDAS:

 arne anka ha scritto:
 Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
 � VIAGRA � Official Site
 openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org


 to what address do you get that spam?
 faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent
 allegedly from my address.
 simply ignore it.



 I received spam even from my project page (BlueMoko) same as Michael:

 -- 
 --

 The bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org mailing list has 1
 request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

   http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/bluemoko-commits
   
 Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
 pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.


 Pending posts:
 From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15  
 2009
 Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on  
 Pfizer !

 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

 -- 
 --

 Bye.

i'm getting these mails _every_ day since nearly 200 days now for my  
project
at projects.om.org and i also am not able to log in to the mentioned  
mailman/admin

i really would like to turn this off.

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams

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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread DJDAS
arne anka ha scritto:
 No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
 of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
 

 ???
 nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
 sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.
   

Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system 
you didn't understand? :)
This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look 
at the headers:

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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on djdas.djdas.net
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,NO_REAL_NAME 
autolearn=no version=3.1.5
Received: from projects.openmoko.org (projects.openmoko.org [88.198.93.218])
by djdas.djdas.net (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6Q9RPQ1012478
for dj...@djdas.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:27:25 +0200
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org)
by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org)
id 1MWOjP-0005b0-KI
for dj...@users.projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:11 +0200
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org)
by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org)
id 1MWOjK-0005IK-SA for bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org;
Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:06 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: 1 Bluemoko-commits moderator request(s) waiting
From: bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
To: bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
Message-ID: mailman.241.1248933784.3962.bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:04 +0200
Precedence: bulk
X-BeenThere: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
List-Id: cvs commits bluemoko-commits.projects.openmoko.org
X-List-Administrivia: yes
Sender: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
Errors-To: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/9634/Thu Jul 30 05:03:31 2009 on djdas.djdas.net
X-Virus-Status: Clean

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 It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...
 

 still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
 the quotes of spam.

   
Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part 
of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an 
anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the 
subject/notes field to add spamming messages...



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Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

2009-07-30 Thread Sander
DJDAS wrote (ao):
 arne anka ha scritto:
  No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
  of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
  
 
  ???
  nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is  
  sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it really is.

 
 Sorry but which part of the mail was sent from the versioning system 
 you didn't understand? :)
 This is NOT spoofed but was sent form the projects server, please look 
 at the headers:

These headers and this email are from the process that manages the
'moderator request(s) waiting' queue.

My guess would be that a spammer spams the mailaddress which receives
the commits, and that mailman refuses to send the spam to the members of
the commit list due to the spammer being a non-member.

With kind regards, Sander

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 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on djdas.djdas.net
 X-Spam-Level: 
 X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,NO_REAL_NAME 
   autolearn=no version=3.1.5
 Received: from projects.openmoko.org (projects.openmoko.org [88.198.93.218])
   by djdas.djdas.net (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6Q9RPQ1012478
   for dj...@djdas.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:27:25 +0200
 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org)
   by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
   (envelope-from mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org)
   id 1MWOjP-0005b0-KI
   for dj...@users.projects.openmoko.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:11 +0200
 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.openmoko.org)
   by projects.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
   (envelope-from bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org)
   id 1MWOjK-0005IK-SA for bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org;
   Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:06 +0200
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Subject: 1 Bluemoko-commits moderator request(s) waiting
 From: bluemoko-commits-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
 To: bluemoko-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
 Message-ID: 
 mailman.241.1248933784.3962.bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org
 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:04 +0200
 Precedence: bulk
 X-BeenThere: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org
 X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
 List-Id: cvs commits bluemoko-commits.projects.openmoko.org
 X-List-Administrivia: yes
 Sender: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
 Errors-To: mailman-boun...@projects.openmoko.org
 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/9634/Thu Jul 30 05:03:31 2009 on 
 djdas.djdas.net
 X-Virus-Status: Clean
 
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  It smells of security issue on the projects.openmoko site...
  
 
  still possible, if one take sthe password issue in account. but not from  
  the quotes of spam.
 

 Maybe they were able to automatize the commit requests for all (o part 
 of) the projects hosted in the site registering an account (or using an 
 anonymous one if possible) that asks for commits and using the 
 subject/notes field to add spamming messages...

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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Friday 03 July 2009 01:08:47 abatrour wrote:
 How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? 
You go there and select no message delivery (I don't know the exact name of 
option)
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

You can also do this directly from nabble. But as nabble seams down for now, I 
can't give you the link. (Just answer to this message if you can't find it)
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How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread abatrour

How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? I only access this forum
through the openmoko/nabble website and I find it a huge annoyance to be
spammed messages every day.
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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:08:47 schrieb abatrour:
 How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? I only access this
 forum through the openmoko/nabble website and I find it a huge
 annoyance to be spammed messages every day.

You might send a mail with unsubscribe as caption to 
community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org
that will unsubscribe you from the list (who'd have guessed that?). I 
don't kno if you get subscribed automatically by nabble or something 
though...

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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread abatrour

But if I unsubscribe then I can't post threads or replies here...


Marcel-2 wrote:
 
 Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:08:47 schrieb abatrour:
 How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? I only access this
 forum through the openmoko/nabble website and I find it a huge
 annoyance to be spammed messages every day.
 
 You might send a mail with unsubscribe as caption to 
 community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org
 that will unsubscribe you from the list (who'd have guessed that?). I 
 don't kno if you get subscribed automatically by nabble or something 
 though...
 
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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread Marcel
Does nabble require active subscription of yours? Hmm, sounds reasonable, 
haven't used that too much yet. Another try: Look in the mailing list 
settings (maybe http://lists.openmoko.org) to try and stop delivery to 
your mail address since you read via nabble.

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Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:22:19 schrieb abatrour:
 But if I unsubscribe then I can't post threads or replies here...

 Marcel-2 wrote:
  Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:08:47 schrieb abatrour:
  How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? I only access
  this forum through the openmoko/nabble website and I find it a huge
  annoyance to be spammed messages every day.
 
  You might send a mail with unsubscribe as caption to
  community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org
  that will unsubscribe you from the list (who'd have guessed that?). I
  don't kno if you get subscribed automatically by nabble or something
  though...
 
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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread feywulf

You could also setup a filter to redirect the emails to a folder other than 
your main inbox.

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Marcel tan...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: How to stop mailing list spam.
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 5:29 PM
 Does nabble require active
 subscription of yours? Hmm, sounds reasonable, 
 haven't used that too much yet. Another try: Look in the
 mailing list 
 settings (maybe http://lists.openmoko.org) to try and
 stop delivery to 
 your mail address since you read via nabble.
 
 --
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 Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:22:19 schrieb abatrour:
  But if I unsubscribe then I can't post threads or
 replies here...
 
  Marcel-2 wrote:
   Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:08:47 schrieb
 abatrour:
   How do I stop all the emails being sent to my
 inbox? I only access
   this forum through the openmoko/nabble
 website and I find it a huge
   annoyance to be spammed messages every day.
  
   You might send a mail with unsubscribe as
 caption to
   community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org
   that will unsubscribe you from the list (who'd
 have guessed that?). I
   don't kno if you get subscribed automatically by
 nabble or something
   though...
  
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Re: How to stop mailing list spam.

2009-07-02 Thread Damian Spriggs
Go to the list options page and select the digest option. That will  
only send one a day. Then in your mailer, create a filtering rule for  
the digest.

And it's not spam if you sign up for it. ;)

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 How do I stop all the emails being sent to my inbox? I only access  
 this forum
 through the openmoko/nabble website and I find it a huge annoyance  
 to be
 spammed messages every day.
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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-25 Thread Steve Mosher
http://www.opkg.org/package_61.html



Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:32 +0200, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name  
 wrote:
 
 Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train.
 I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text
 files.

 O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
 Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)
 
 Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid.  
 Someone needs to work on that.
 
 

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-25 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:48:37 +0200
Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru wrote:

 On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:32 +0200, Tilman Baumann
 til...@baumann.name wrote:
 
  Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train.
  I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them
  text files.
 
  O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
  Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)
 
 Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one
 laid. Someone needs to work on that.

Thanks guys. This mail is printed out and pinned to my refrigerator
now. ;-)


Regards,
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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread KaZeR



PaulTT wrote:
 
 i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming.
 more and more worse. :(
 
 the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery
 coool :))
 

Well, with bluetooth you can either turn it off, or reject incoming offer.

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Roland Whitehead
What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife  
on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends  
up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing  
to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be  
lots of new users!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing

Being far to square for such fun, it's fortunate that my train goes to  
Bognor!


Roland


On 24 Apr 2009, at 10:48, PaulTT wrote:

 i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming.
 more and more worse. :(

 the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery
 coool :))


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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Tilman Baumann

Roland Whitehead wrote:
 What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife
 on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends
 up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing
 to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be
 lots of new users!

Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train.
I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text
files.

O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure:
  O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
  Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)

 Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid.
   Someone needs to work on that.

we need to fill a bug report then. G

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread PaulTT
i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming.
more and more worse. :(

the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery
coool :))

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:32 +0200, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name  
wrote:

 Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train.
 I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text
 files.

 O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
 Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)

Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid.  
Someone needs to work on that.


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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Tilman Baumann

Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
 El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure:
  O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
  Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)

 Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one
 laid.
   Someone needs to work on that.

 we need to fill a bug report then. G

And if someone stets the bug on 'WORKSFORME'?


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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name wrote:

 Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
 El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure:
  O group of girls answered. Was really funny.
  Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :)

 Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one
 laid.
   Someone needs to work on that.

 we need to fill a bug report then. G

 And if someone stets the bug on 'WORKSFORME'?

They get unceremoniously lynched by the list...

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-24 Thread john
2009/4/24 Roland Whitehead rol...@quru.com:
 What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife
 on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends
 up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing
 to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be
 lots of new users!

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing


Which has a link to Dogging! BlueDogging anyone? :)

I hacked my Bluetooth logger to post devices found to Twitter. A more
interesting read than most people's Twitter feeds!

John.

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bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Carlo Minucci
i have write a little application for spam a file via bluetooth :)

this is the code (you need openpush package)

#!/usr/bin/python

import os
import string
import time

start_bluetooth=echo 1  
/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on; echo 0  
/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset; /etc/init.d/bluetooth 
start
os.system(start_bluetooth)

while 10:
dev_scan = hcitool scan
list_dev=os.popen(dev_scan)
tot= list_dev.read()
tot= tot.split(\n)
tot.pop(0)
tot.reverse()
tot.pop(0)
for dev in tot:
dev=dev.split(\t)
get_channel = sdptool search --bdaddr  + dev[1] +  OPUSH | 
sed 's/ //g' | grep Channel | cut -d: -f 2
channel_scan=os.popen(get_channel)
channel=channel_scan.read()
print ! + channel[:-1] + !
if channel != :
send_file=obextool push file.txt  + dev[1] ++ channel
print sending file to \ + dev[2] + \
print send_file
send=os.system(send_file)
time.sleep(5)

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?
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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Evgeny
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpionee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?

It seems, because he can do it, funny.

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread William Kenworthy
At a local employment expo 2 yrs or so ago, we sent the university logo
and message to anyone wandering past the stand.  I only found out when
one great bear of a guy came up brandishing his phone ... did you guys
do this ... with the image on his display - I didnt know it was even
possible at the time!  Thinking back, he might have assumed it replaced
his favourite wallpaper - may have in fact?

BillK





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RE: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?
 
The word why? is a taboo in this list, you fool !!
dont you ever say it again !!
 

 
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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Joseph Reeves
Advertisers use it a lot. I've also spoken to someone who was using
the spamming service for a community heritage project; you walked
around and had details of the area you're in sent to your phone.

It's just a case of needing a little imagination ;)



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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Carlo Minucci
Evgeny ha scritto:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, The Digital Pioneer
 digitalpionee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?

 It seems, because he can do it, funny.
 

exactly :)


the true
i have code this application for spread mp3 of my band during live concert
it's cool :)

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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread ivvmm
Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Evgeny ha scritto:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, The Digital Pioneer
 digitalpionee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?

 It seems, because he can do it, funny.

 
 exactly :)
 
 
 the true
 i have code this application for spread mp3 of my band during live concert
 it's cool :)
 

Hold from that. Spread ogg :)




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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread The Digital Pioneer

 Hold from that. Spread ogg :)


That's right, MP3 FTL.


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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Steve Mosher
Hmm..
  The possibilities are endless. I imagine, however, that thre might be 
some media assets, like personal photos, that one would not want to spam 
around the club... or maybe not..Self promotion at its best.

Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Evgeny ha scritto:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, The Digital Pioneer
 digitalpionee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?

 It seems, because he can do it, funny.

 
 exactly :)
 
 
 the true
 i have code this application for spread mp3 of my band during live concert
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Re: ***SPAM*** ***SPAM*** Re: Yaouh 0.5 out

2009-03-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote:
 Hi fellows,
 Where are the resources of those maps?
 Well, I mean the data of map? Where does it comes from?

 I found that map of euro is much more clear, compared to my location.

 Any ideas?

Openstreetmap.org - feel free to add details in your area, see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page


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Re: Spam

2009-01-30 Thread roguemoko
Stroller wrote:
 On 28 Jan 2009, at 09:56, Jan Henkins wrote:
 ...
 There is another situation that I find to be a worry: In order to send
 mail to this list you have to have a registered address.
 ... but it could have been anybody else who have sent an email to the
 list. Looking in the list archives I can see that not enough is  
 being done
 to obscure sender addresses. Currently the only thing that is being  
 done
 is to replace the @ with a spaceatspace. So dor...@grey.com
 would become dorian at grey.com. Sweet! Armed with wget to leech  
 all the
 archives, a few text tools (grep, Perl, Python, etc) and I can build  
 up a
 list of addresses (almost 100% confirmed working addresses) that  
 could be
 used for various spamming activities. A list of active addresses is  
 worth
 money too! ;-) So what I suggest is that the list administrators  
 obfuscate
 list members' addresses even more. MailMan's Pipermail archiver can do
 this if properly set up.
 
 Surely the traditional mailing list problem remains - subscribers to  
 the list will still receive messages with the full from address  
 intact. Or do you intend to obfuscate that, too? Surely a spammer can  
 just subscribe to the list to obtain all our addresses?
 
 Obfuscating email addresses on the web archive is, IMO, no substitute  
 for sensible policies (greylisting, RBL, SFF?) at your incoming mail  
 server.
 
 Stroller.

I think all are good ideas so far, with the problem at hand, SPF deals 
specifically with the relaying and reception of forged emails. Although 
the most relevant solution, there's still a lot of people not using it 
so success varies and it also forces some requirements on the users of 
the domain. Being 'open' pioneers, it's be nice to have.

 From experience, greylisting, helo and RBL rejections are equal to, if 
not at some points greater than, the amount of flagged spam I recieve. 
They're also the kind of techniques that subtly force other admins to 
fix their servers. Any issues I've had have been outweighed by the benefit.

I see the web side of things more about being considerate, not so much 
an obligation. If it was a forum I'd care but I completely agree with 
Stroller. Short of removing the addresses from the emails, I can't 
imagine much else you could do (and I'm not suggesting that btw ;).

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Re: Spam

2009-01-29 Thread Jan Henkins

On Wed, January 28, 2009 16:08, arne anka wrote:
 Obfuscating email addresses on the web archive is, IMO, no substitute
 for sensible policies (greylisting, RBL, SFF?) at your incoming mail
 server.

 not as such. but i think it is  a necessary part.

From a mail server perspective I have to agree, if you do not have
greylisting. SPF and some form of RBL service activated, you are courting
disaster. Obfuscating mail addresses in web archives is a seperate issue,
but just as important. But like it was said, it does not substitute or
replace sensible email policies, but it keeps the bad guys from harvesting
active e-mail addresses.

Both these things are not difficult to set up, and I would urge Openmoko
to act while the issue is still in discussion.

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Re: Spam

2009-01-28 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello,

On Wed, January 28, 2009 01:59, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:

 This should especially be done by mailing list servers and more so in
 openmoko's case as the contact with openmoko personnel and developers is
 pretty crucial.

 Preventing your own people from being impersonated and forged mails
 being relayed via your own list seems common sense to some of us, or at
 least me :)

There is another situation that I find to be a worry: In order to send
mail to this list you have to have a registered address. In the above case
it was proper openmoko.org addresses that was used in the Joe Job
attack, but it could have been anybody else who have sent an email to the
list. Looking in the list archives I can see that not enough is being done
to obscure sender addresses. Currently the only thing that is being done
is to replace the @ with a spaceatspace. So dor...@grey.com
would become dorian at grey.com. Sweet! Armed with wget to leech all the
archives, a few text tools (grep, Perl, Python, etc) and I can build up a
list of addresses (almost 100% confirmed working addresses) that could be
used for various spamming activities. A list of active addresses is worth
money too! ;-) So what I suggest is that the list administrators obfuscate
list members' addresses even more. MailMan's Pipermail archiver can do
this if properly set up.

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Re: Spam

2009-01-28 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/28 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net
 So what I suggest is that the list administrators obfuscate
 list members' addresses even more. MailMan's Pipermail archiver can do
 this if properly set up.

Adding ReCAPTCHA's mailhide[1] might improve this further.

[1] http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/

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Re: Spam

2009-01-28 Thread Stroller

On 28 Jan 2009, at 09:56, Jan Henkins wrote:
 ...
 There is another situation that I find to be a worry: In order to send
 mail to this list you have to have a registered address.
 ... but it could have been anybody else who have sent an email to the
 list. Looking in the list archives I can see that not enough is  
 being done
 to obscure sender addresses. Currently the only thing that is being  
 done
 is to replace the @ with a spaceatspace. So dor...@grey.com
 would become dorian at grey.com. Sweet! Armed with wget to leech  
 all the
 archives, a few text tools (grep, Perl, Python, etc) and I can build  
 up a
 list of addresses (almost 100% confirmed working addresses) that  
 could be
 used for various spamming activities. A list of active addresses is  
 worth
 money too! ;-) So what I suggest is that the list administrators  
 obfuscate
 list members' addresses even more. MailMan's Pipermail archiver can do
 this if properly set up.

Surely the traditional mailing list problem remains - subscribers to  
the list will still receive messages with the full from address  
intact. Or do you intend to obfuscate that, too? Surely a spammer can  
just subscribe to the list to obtain all our addresses?

Obfuscating email addresses on the web archive is, IMO, no substitute  
for sensible policies (greylisting, RBL, SFF?) at your incoming mail  
server.

Stroller.


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Re: Spam

2009-01-28 Thread arne anka
 Obfuscating email addresses on the web archive is, IMO, no substitute
 for sensible policies (greylisting, RBL, SFF?) at your incoming mail
 server.

not as such. but i think it is  a necessary part.

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Re: Spam

2009-01-27 Thread roguemoko
Paul Boddie wrote:
 To avoid some problems with forged mail, I recommend setting up an SPF policy 
 record:
 
 http://www.openspf.org/
 
 See the Deploying SPF part of that page and the associated setup wizard.
 
 When I looked at openmoko.org's DNS records, I couldn't find any evidence of 
 SPF policies, so perhaps someone should look into it. And everyone else who 
 isn't publishing SPF policies for their domain should consider doing so, 
 too - it's a pain to get a deluge of spam backscatter in one's inbox, but you 
 can prevent it from happening.

This should especially be done by mailing list servers and more so in 
openmoko's case as the contact with openmoko personnel and developers is 
pretty crucial.

Preventing your own people from being impersonated and forged mails 
being relayed via your own list seems common sense to some of us, or at 
least me :)

As the from address is maintained when sending to this particular list, 
I guess it's not even necessary for them to be checking records, so long 
as they publish some that we can check ... though they should be doing both.

The only problem with implementing this now would be the multiple 
sending servers required to be added to the records or the set up of 
auth smtp (with increased BW usage) and then the requirement for 
openmoko.org email users to adhere to the set up. Doable but not exactly 
trivial.

Sarton

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re: spam

2009-01-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, arne anka wrote:

 the best course of action, is to delete an forget it, the subject is a
 pretty good hint ...

And perhaps for openmoko to start publishing SPF records

Paul

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Re: spam

2009-01-25 Thread Damian Spriggs
I really don't care what type of sun tanning lotion they are using.  
But there's not much you can do about forged headers and open relays.


(d)
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On Jan 25, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:


And perhaps for openmoko to start publishing SPF records

Paul


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Re: Spam

2009-01-24 Thread Paul Boddie
Jim Ancona wrote:
 No, looking at the headers, almost certainly not. Someone simply
 forged Mickey's address using their email client. I receive spam
 From my address all the time. The only difference is that they sent
 it through the mailing list.

Indeed. Readers should exercise common sense when seeing mail from people, 
especially relatively well-known people in the community, which seems out of 
character or nonsensical before jumping to conclusions about that person 
becoming a spammer, going over to the Dark Side, and so on.

 A better rule (which I have just violated) is not to reply at all,
 since it just clutters the list.

To avoid some problems with forged mail, I recommend setting up an SPF policy 
record:

http://www.openspf.org/

See the Deploying SPF part of that page and the associated setup wizard.

When I looked at openmoko.org's DNS records, I couldn't find any evidence of 
SPF policies, so perhaps someone should look into it. And everyone else who 
isn't publishing SPF policies for their domain should consider doing so, 
too - it's a pain to get a deluge of spam backscatter in one's inbox, but you 
can prevent it from happening.

Paul

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Spam

2009-01-23 Thread 'dillo

Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has  
been compromised.
You all might want to check your AV software.
Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their  
replies? ---It only gives the bigots
more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just  
think of what it will look like in a Google search
3 months from now.

-Steve

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Re: Spam

2009-01-23 Thread Pander
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Can mailman be configured that you have to sign your messages correctly
and otherwise they will not be distributed?

Steve 'dillo Okay wrote:
 Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has  
 been compromised.
 You all might want to check your AV software.
 Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their  
 replies? ---It only gives the bigots
 more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just  
 think of what it will look like in a Google search
 3 months from now.
 
 -Steve
 
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Re: Spam

2009-01-23 Thread Jim Ancona
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Steve  'dillo Okay
armad...@gothpunk.com wrote:

 Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has
 been compromised.

No, looking at the headers, almost certainly not. Someone simply
forged Mickey's address using their email client. I receive spam
From my address all the time. The only difference is that they sent
it through the mailing list.

 You all might want to check your AV software.
 Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their
 replies? ---It only gives the bigots
 more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just
 think of what it will look like in a Google search
 3 months from now.

A better rule (which I have just violated) is not to reply at all,
since it just clutters the list.

Jim

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[SPAM] Quake III on Nokia devices

2008-11-28 Thread Ivan Shirokoff
Hello everybody =)

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nokia-quake-iii-gains-on-phone-server-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mo/

I wonder if there any way we would get something like this on FR? =)

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Re: [SPAM] Quake III on Nokia devices

2008-11-28 Thread Marcel
Am Friday 28 November 2008 16:24:28 schrieb Ivan Shirokoff:
 Hello everybody =)

 http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nokia-quake-iii-gains-on-phone-server-bl
uetooth-keyboard-and-mo/

 I wonder if there any way we would get something like this on FR? =)

Unlikely from what I've heard about the glamo. Especially with today's state 
of drivers, although Graeme was working on a new/better one if I remember 
correctly.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-07 Thread Nishit Dave
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one
 is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and
 a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card
 in my old phone and this recieved both messages.
 But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this
 theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change
 nor  do any other  important things.

 I used FR with Qtextended as my one and only daily phone today, because I
lost my Motorokr E6 the night before the last (using OM2008.8-update was an
actual waking nightmare yesterday).  I have been very happy with the results
so far, but the problems I have found, confirming yours are:

1. Default volume too low: had to hand-edit gsmhandset.state, the volume
control in settings  call settings did not do the trick
2. Using the headset during a call requires you to select speakerphone from
the menu - audio is routed usually through one earphone, but for the mic,
you have to use the FR's speaker-mic.  Selecting headset does not work -
Could this mean the settings in gsmheadset.state and gsmspeakerout.state
have been interchanged?
3. Strong echo heard by most of the callers
4. Phone needs to be reminded of power management functions when plugged in
- I have already saved the settings in (added to) my profile
5. Whenever a new SMS is received, the phone reports earlier messages as
unread in the popup notification
6. Some messages are received twice
7. Somehow, the phone seems to create copies of messages in the inbox - I
now have 159 messages in one day, when the total received was perhaps 16.
Sent items shows the correct number
8. In GPRS settings, I can't modify the APN setting, so there is no way to
figure out if it works.  The wiki says here [1] that it should be specified
in the chat file.  However, I don't know if Qtextended uses the same
functionality to connect to GPRS.  There are no such files in /etc/ppp
9. I don't think networking through usb0 works correctly.  I have specified
my proxy in settings  internet  new  ethernet, also exported it as an
environment variable under SSH, but no cigar.  Ping to www.google.com or
208.67.222.222 doesn't seem to work.  I am using Freeproxy as a bridge
between my corporate lan on my laptop, and the FR
10. Due to 9 above, settings  software packages does not work.  Neither
does opkg, for much the same reason, although I believe nothing should be
installed from the OM repositories
11. What about GPS? Both 8 and 9 mean there is no way to test how it works.
Plus there are hardly any tried and tested routing / navigation applications
available (roadmaps seems to be experimental, haven't tried it).  We need
something like TangoGPS or Navit
12. The qwerty keyboard is too tiny and a bit messy.  The predictive
keyboard seems to have done away with the right-to-left flick for backspace

So there are twelve problems I can enumerate quickly, but they are not
showstoppers. I believe most of these issues will be cleared up quickly.
Battery life is much better than under any of the OMs, applications start up
much faster and I haven't even tried fastload yet, and respond much faster
too!

All in all, FR with Qtextended (4.4.1) is the closest I have gotten to a
phone, much better than the 2007.2 factory image, which was quite buggy, and
of course, everyone's favourite 2008.x.

[1]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#gprs-connect-chat.2C_version_1
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-06 Thread Bastian Muck
I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one
is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and
a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card
in my old phone and this recieved both messages.
But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this
theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change
nor  do any other  important things.

Greetings Bastian

gromez schrieb:
 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 [...]

   
 - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
 in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 

 Same problem. A solution for getting the right date is to use the date
 command from ssh.

   
 - echo problem is back
 

 During a call, people notify me that they hear their own voice, so
 echo problem is back.

   
 - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
 

 I've tried alarm this morning and it worked fine.

   
 - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
 as missed
 

 Similar problem with calls and text messages. Even if I read them it
 seems they are never marked as read.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Kishore wrote:
 On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote:
 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200

 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
 you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.

 unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
 called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
 accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
 many bugs (old and new):

 - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
 uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
 previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.
 
 I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like 
 there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but then 
 it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow.

thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it. It's 
harmless

 
 - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
 in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 hmmm...
 indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
 I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i just 
 spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc. (My 
 previous 
 motoming phone does not have an export all feature)

ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files.

 
 - echo problem is back
 odd.

 - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
 - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
 as missed
 also odd. I haven't seen this.

 The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
 thought it was going to be 4.4.3?
 Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug fixes.
 
 I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well it 
 manages calls.
 
 Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does 
 that 
 mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find one 
 application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate.

We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic 
rotation on the Neo.


-- 
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Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd



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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Kishore
On Friday 03 Oct 2008 11:29:39 am Lorn Potter wrote:
 Kishore wrote:
  On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote:
  Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
 
  Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
  you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.
 
  unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
  called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
  accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 
  hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
  many bugs (old and new):
 
  - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
  uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
  previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 
  yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.
 
  I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like
  there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but
  then it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow.

 thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it.
 It's harmless

OK. Harmless but still looks bad but no issue really.

  - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
  in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 
  hmmm...
  indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
  I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i
  just spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc.
  (My previous motoming phone does not have an export all feature)

 ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files.

Thanks!

  - echo problem is back
 
  odd.

I put in a SIM to test. Neither I nor the other side experience any echo.

  - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
  - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
  as missed
 
  also odd. I haven't seen this.

When i answer a call it does register the same call as a missed call too. I 
have another issue where if the call was from an unknown contact and i wish to 
add to my contacts list, it would ask me if i want to create a new contact and 
there touch screen does not respond to my input on either of yes or no or 
elsewhere. I have to press the AUX button to recover.

Also when i choose to delete data from the call history, it okays my input but 
does not delete the entry.

  The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
  thought it was going to be 4.4.3?
 
  Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug
  fixes.
 
  I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well
  it manages calls.
 
  Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does
  that mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find
  one application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate.

 We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic
 rotation on the Neo.

OK, Is there an API that one can use to write a small script daemon?
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread gromez
Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
(uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
from USB.
Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)


Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
That would be great for me!
Where did you get this kernel?

Franky
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)


 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!
 Where did you get this kernel?


never mind, I found the kernel :-)
But are the mentioned issues really resolved?

Franky
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread gromez
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)

 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!

Well, these problems are not kernel related so there are still present :(

 Where did you get this kernel?

Here: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=91

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Devendra Gera
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
  (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
  except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
  from USB.
  Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)
 
 
 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!
 Where did you get this kernel?

Well I have no issues as far as echoes and duplicate missed calls. I'm
using the kernel from the 4.3.2 release. I do hear a small audio
effect (like loud static which does down - quite tonefully, I must
add) whenever a call ends. I can live with the unintended call end
indicator.

Problems that I do have :

* WiFi - connects and is usable, but makes the interface really slow
  after a while. Then causes freezes. I'm using WPA-PSK-TKIP btw.
* The aux red LED keeps on glowing even after I disconnect the USB
  cable. I can get it to behave as expected by playing around with
  repeated inserts of the cable. One of those times, it behaves
  correctly. I wouldn't call it a fix or even a workaround though. It's
  more of a buggy bug.
* Missing zoneinfos. I'll try the updated image today.

I haven't tried setting up my GPRS yet.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi,

her are my results after a fresh flash with the latest uimage and
rootfs from qt:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:16:45 +1000
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
  uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
  previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 
 yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.

using the new uimage, these are gone
 
  - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
  in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 hmmm...
 indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
  - echo problem is back
 
 odd.

using the new uimage, this still seems to be a problem
 
  - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze

this also no longer happens. But the issue of the alarm not sounding on
time after suspend still remains (the alarm is on time only once, after
a fresh reboot, all subsequent alarms seem to drift off in time when
the phone is suspended)

  - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show
  up as missed
 
 also odd. I haven't seen this.

after a dialer crash and some reboots, this no longer is the case. But
now, at the end of each call, the call-volume setting window pops up
briefly, with the sound setting/noice.

Franky

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
 you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.
 
 unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
 called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
 accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 

hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
many bugs (old and new):

- lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
- timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
- echo problem is back
- alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
- each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
as missed

The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
thought it was going to be 4.4.3?

Franky

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-02 Thread Kishore
On Thursday 02 Oct 2008 11:53:46 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200

 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
  you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.
 
  unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
  called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
  accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.

 hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
 many bugs (old and new):

 - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
 uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
 previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
 in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 - echo problem is back
 - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
 - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
 as missed

 The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
 thought it was going to be 4.4.3?

Yup! I have all of those issues you mention. Anyway, USB networking is now 
working after i flashed mwester kernel. I am able to ssh but i cannot connect 
to the internet. ping google.com gives me ping: bad address 'google.com'.

I checked /etc/resolv.conf and it is empty.
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