Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
this is kind of going off at a tangent, but are there any decent usb network interfaces with linux drivers included in OM? personally, i would rather connect my neo direct to the router in my house than have to boot a computer as well, whenever i want to update packages. or are there other reasons to make this impractical? The question I have about this is how do we connect USB devices to the neo? Isn't it so that the USB Host port is only on the debug board? If so, thats mighty fidgety to plug in and get set up with a USB hub and so .. I must confess I have cursed at the ribbon cable and its feeble, wimpy, connectors more than a few times since I got my neo .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
On Friday 07 December 2007, Jay Vaughan wrote: this is kind of going off at a tangent, but are there any decent usb network interfaces with linux drivers included in OM? personally, i would rather connect my neo direct to the router in my house than have to boot a computer as well, whenever i want to update packages. or are there other reasons to make this impractical? The question I have about this is how do we connect USB devices to the neo? Isn't it so that the USB Host port is only on the debug board? If so, thats mighty fidgety to plug in and get set up with a USB hub and so .. I must confess I have cursed at the ribbon cable and its feeble, wimpy, connectors more than a few times since I got my neo .. The USB connector on the Neo can be switched from client to host mode, but last I heard (some time ago now) the code to do the switching hadn't been implemented. You also need the host mode cable which IIRC only comes with the developers' version, or you can make one yourself. Then you either need self-powered devices, a self-powered hub or a cable mod to provide the 5V because the GTA01 can't provide the power for devices. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
Jay Vaughan writes: The question I have about this is how do we connect USB devices to the neo? Isn't it so that the USB Host port is only on the debug board? If so, thats mighty fidgety to plug in and get set up with a USB hub and so .. I must confess I have cursed at the ribbon cable and its feeble, wimpy, connectors more than a few times since I got my neo .. No, the USB connector on the NEO is a mini-AB. That means you can connect either type of cable to it, and hardware-wise it can be either host or device. I'm not sure whether the host driver is working yet, though. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
The USB connector on the Neo can be switched from client to host mode, but last I heard (some time ago now) the code to do the switching hadn't been implemented. Thats very interesting - if anyone has any technical details on how this works I'd like to hear about it because there are USB devices (MIDI interface) I'd very much like to get working with my neo if I can .. You also need the host mode cable which IIRC only comes with the developers' version, or you can make one yourself. Then you either need self-powered devices, a self-powered hub or a cable mod to provide the 5V because the GTA01 can't provide the power for devices. Okay, I have two advanced developers kits (with boards), but I don't have any special cable .. or do I? How does it work? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
On 12/7/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007, Jay Vaughan wrote: The USB connector on the Neo can be switched from client to host mode, but last I heard (some time ago now) the code to do the switching hadn't been implemented. Thats very interesting - if anyone has any technical details on how this works I'd like to hear about it because there are USB devices (MIDI interface) I'd very much like to get working with my neo if I can .. Just found this - looks like there's now a patch http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host You also need the host mode cable which IIRC only comes with the developers' version, or you can make one yourself. Then you either need self-powered devices, a self-powered hub or a cable mod to provide the 5V because the GTA01 can't provide the power for devices. Okay, I have two advanced developers kits (with boards), but I don't have any special cable .. or do I? How does it work? Sean's 'New Oceans' announcement on 27/06/2007 said the dev kit would include a USB host mode cable that wouldn't be included with the base model. This doesn't appear in the specs at openmoko.com though, so perhaps they never shipped them. See the link above for instructions on a DIY cable. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I looked for this when my advanced kit showed up, the response I got was that the host mode cable had been canceled: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-August/000219.html -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
On Friday 07 December 2007, Jay Vaughan wrote: The USB connector on the Neo can be switched from client to host mode, but last I heard (some time ago now) the code to do the switching hadn't been implemented. Thats very interesting - if anyone has any technical details on how this works I'd like to hear about it because there are USB devices (MIDI interface) I'd very much like to get working with my neo if I can .. Just found this - looks like there's now a patch http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host You also need the host mode cable which IIRC only comes with the developers' version, or you can make one yourself. Then you either need self-powered devices, a self-powered hub or a cable mod to provide the 5V because the GTA01 can't provide the power for devices. Okay, I have two advanced developers kits (with boards), but I don't have any special cable .. or do I? How does it work? Sean's 'New Oceans' announcement on 27/06/2007 said the dev kit would include a USB host mode cable that wouldn't be included with the base model. This doesn't appear in the specs at openmoko.com though, so perhaps they never shipped them. See the link above for instructions on a DIY cable. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
On 07/12/2007, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'd like it to do this automatically when plug the usb cable in, and haven't been able to find a way to get that to happen. I didn't have any luck with either auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 in /etc/network/interfaces In both cases, I still need to start up the terminal and do an ifup usb0... this is kind of going off at a tangent, but are there any decent usb network interfaces with linux drivers included in OM? personally, i would rather connect my neo direct to the router in my house than have to boot a computer as well, whenever i want to update packages. or are there other reasons to make this impractical? yes, i realise there's a power issue, but there are many powered USB hubs out there. and power over ethernet is also a solution. ditto for charging the neo seems a whole lot easier way of connecting as well cross-posted to community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb network dongle (was Re: dhcp on usb0)
Robin Paulson wrote: this is kind of going off at a tangent, but are there any decent usb network interfaces with linux drivers included in OM? personally, i would rather connect my neo direct to the router in my house than have to boot a computer as well, whenever i want to update packages. or are there other reasons to make this impractical? If your router has a USB host port, and is listed as supported on toh.openwrt.org, or on nslu2-linux.org (look under SlugOS or Optware), then you can run the neo as a client of the router directly through USB. No need for another dongle, and no power issue, and the neo charges while it's connected to. -- Rod ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
