Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

2009-07-16 Thread Yorick Moko
Did a 3000+km roadtrip a while ago;
navigated with FR to my destination (navit)
searched for lakes or woods nearby to camp in (tangogps)
checked out the constellations (orrery)
converted different currencies (mokoconv)
listened to music in the car by connecting the FR to the car-radio (intone
and canola)
charged the car by usb in the car
captured thousands of cell ID's with openBmap logger
used the FR as a flashlight (orrery)
played a game (acceleroids, mokomaze)
used the calculator (pCalc I think)
sent sms'es
made calls


not everything works as it should, but some things do :)
y

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:

> Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread.
> Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was
> absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup
> photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode (and onwards to USB stick
> or over WLAN/SSH to home computer 1000km away). While using GPS I
> played back music from Neo via rented car's AUX input, and charged Neo
> as needed with a car USB charger. Oh, and used Neo as a phone as well
> (the obligatory postscriptum).
>
> 2009/7/14 Joerg Lippmann :
> > When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete?
>
> When it's ready, and capable developers willing to spend time found.
> Anyone with time and skills can try the latest dev branches of
> DRI-aware driver, kernel drm driver etc. and start testing or
> developing.
>
> As for obsolete, I don't currently see any competing product on the
> market, and I expect it will be at least two years we have something
> comparable from some other vendor. And even still, I expect to be
> using FreeRunner if it works for me as well as it does now.
>
> > as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too
> > slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available).
>
> Cannot reproduce those, but sorry for you. It all depends on software,
> which as it happens is completely replaceable.
>
> > without good software. I cannot help it. I haven't found a single distro
> that
> > works well out of the box. The best ones so far were QTopia/QTe and
> Android.
>
> I use Debian myself, but I find the latest Om2009 snapshot I use as a
> backup dual-boot option to function pretty cool for GSM, GPS, GPRS and
> WLAN usage although at least I still needed to tweak two settings
> (speaker volume and mono playback volume) in gsmhandset.state.
>
> -Timo
>
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Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

2009-07-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread.
Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was
absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup
photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode (and onwards to USB stick
or over WLAN/SSH to home computer 1000km away). While using GPS I
played back music from Neo via rented car's AUX input, and charged Neo
as needed with a car USB charger. Oh, and used Neo as a phone as well
(the obligatory postscriptum).

2009/7/14 Joerg Lippmann :
> When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete?

When it's ready, and capable developers willing to spend time found.
Anyone with time and skills can try the latest dev branches of
DRI-aware driver, kernel drm driver etc. and start testing or
developing.

As for obsolete, I don't currently see any competing product on the
market, and I expect it will be at least two years we have something
comparable from some other vendor. And even still, I expect to be
using FreeRunner if it works for me as well as it does now.

> as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too
> slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available).

Cannot reproduce those, but sorry for you. It all depends on software,
which as it happens is completely replaceable.

> without good software. I cannot help it. I haven't found a single distro that
> works well out of the box. The best ones so far were QTopia/QTe and Android.

I use Debian myself, but I find the latest Om2009 snapshot I use as a
backup dual-boot option to function pretty cool for GSM, GPS, GPRS and
WLAN usage although at least I still needed to tweak two settings
(speaker volume and mono playback volume) in gsmhandset.state.

-Timo

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