Re: [tb-cybergardens]: Fwd: [cg] Question regarding Insurance for garden on State of NY property
Please refer to my previous post- DOT gardens (city and state) should be able to participate in the insurance policy under formation as long as they are registered with GreenThumb. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:43:18 -0400 Subject: [tb-cybergardens]: Fwd: [cg] Question regarding Insurance for garden on State of NY property Another note on the garden insurance crisis. Maureen O'Boyle - we may have to set up a working group on insurance for the community gardens. More later as we learn more and find insurance carriers who will cover us. Adam Honigman Volunteer Clinton Community Garden -Original Message- From: Maureen O'Boyle <> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:54:19 -0500 Subject: [cg] Question regarding Insurance for garden on State of NY property The 64th Street Community Garden in Brooklyn NY is actively seeking a new contact/ issuer for garden insurance. We are unique in that we are located on State of New York, Department of Transportation land and have been required to have garden insurance for the past 8 years. The current carrier is not longer covering NYC gardens. Any information would be greatly appreciated. regards, Maureen O'Boyle Community Outreach 718-768-3925 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org To post an e-mail to the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden __ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org To post an e-mail to the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
[cg] Re: NYC Garden Insurance Working Group
Hello all- I am somewhat surprised to hear that there is a "New York City Garden Insurance Working Group" that doesn't include a Parks representative. I am sorry that I haven't been more vocal on this topic but I am waiting for some clarification from up top at the Arsenal. Given the level of worry out there at this point I do feel like I need to clarify at least a few things immediately. 1. It is true that NOSC is no longer providing a low cost garden insurance policy. It is my understanding that they were unable to obtain any policy that would be affordable to gardeners. Because they could not obtain a renewal policy, the insurance coverage lapsed at the end of the last policy term, in mid August. 2. The Parks Department (including GreenThumb) immediately began looking for a solution to the problem. It was at all times assumed that the City would take on the majority of the liability and most of the cost for any new policy that was obtained. NOSC was also reimbursed by the City for the the difference between what they paid for last years coverage and what they actually received in gardener payments. I was informed that NOSC had returned any renewal checks sent in by the gardeners uncashed. 3. In the 6BC incident, the City Comptroller's office almost immediately agreed to take on the liability once the incident was brought to their attention. No one in the garden will be held personally liable. Some of the other facts mentioned about the incident on the list serve are also not accurate, but since the case is in litigation I do not feel it is appropriate for me to discuss anything in a public forum. 4. Within a short time (this is what I am awaiting clarification on) the Parks Department and Corp Counsel will be finalizing a new low cost insurance policy for gardeners. Our goals are to provide full liability coverage and for the price to gardeners not to exceed $250 annually. It is taking some time to work out all the details, but in the meantime, so long as you are on City Property the City is liable as long as you are engaging in normal gardening activities. I am not a lawyer and I am not even going to try to define that, but I think if you speak to the gardeners at 6BC personally you will see that we are taking care of them. I hope this helps. If you have further questions please email me at my Parks email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Edie Stone, Director, GreenThumb -Original Message- From: F.L. Andrew Padian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:23:25 -0400 Subject: Re: NYC Garden Insurance Working Group This sounds rather simple to me. The garden is owned by the City and the City leases to us. The City is self insured. Sounds to me like the City is our insurer by default. If they claim they are not our insurer by default, they must legally inform us that our contract has changed; then we must re-issue a new agreement to all keyholders. Change the lock. Everyone must totally indemnify the garden, the city, and everyone in the garden, and will personnally accept all responsibility for injury if they choose to enter. Only gardeners and their guests are allowed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: NYC Garden Insurance Working Group Friends, In the midst of a rather warm discussion on garden accessibility issues carried on the American Community Gardening listserve, Mr. William Hohauser,Pres of NYC's 6B Community garden, shared this piece of intelligence: Mr. Hohauser stated that after August 2006, there will be no community garden insurance for NYC community gardens provided under the aegis of the Neighborhood Open Space Coalition. "The insurance issue, believe me or not, is true. I talked to Toby Bran[d]t," [of the Neighorhood Open Space Coalition], "three weeks ago and had the news confirmed by Edie Stone. As I stated, nobod
[cg] Re: [tb-cybergardens]: Fwd: City Faces New Community Development Block Grant Cuts
I think our allocation will be ok for now-I actually testified at a Congressional Hearing on this earlier this year. But Adam, the GreenThumb budget annually is actually less than one million dollars, and we receive NO additional NYC money (except that we don't have to pay rent). I WISH I had 5 million to play with-there would be dedicated water and electricity and wrought iron fences on all the gardens if I did.-Edie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:38:03 -0400 Subject: [tb-cybergardens]: Fwd: City Faces New Community Development Block Grant Cuts Friends, Green Thumb and many public community gardening programs are funded by Federal Community Block Grants. In other words, without its Federal Community Development Block Grant, Green Thumb could lose its $5,000,000 or so of funding. Green Thumb has never been funded by the City of New York, so this could be quite serious. You can get the complete document from the IBO ( Independent Budget Office) message below. Seems that I'm full of great news lately...:( Best wishes, Adam Honigman -Original Message- From: IBOenews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBOenews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:34:49 -0400 Subject: City Faces New Community Development Block Grant Cuts New from IBO: New York City uses its federal Community Development Block Grant to fund a variety of programs--from housing maintenance to child care to cleaning vacant lots. But federal funding of the block grant has been decreasing since 2001, and another significant cut is on the Congressional agenda. This new edition of Inside the Budget is included as an attached pdf file, and is available on IBO's Web site at www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/newsfax/insidethebudget141.pdf. To receive printed versions of this or any other IBO publication, e-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (212) 442-0632. IBO also encourages you to forward this e-mail to friends or colleagues who may be interested in its contents. IBO welcomes your comments and questions about this report. To send us your thoughts, simply click "reply" on this e-mail or send a new e-mail to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Update your Acrobat Reader! Viewing and printing IBO publications requires Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.0 or higher, available from http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html Doug Turetsky Chief of Staff/Communications Director NYC Independent Budget Office 110 William Street, New York, NY 10038 Phone: 212-442-0629/Cell: 917-513-7488 Fax: 212-442-0350 Get inside the budget--click here to receive IBO's free publications __ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org To post an e-mail to the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
