Re: [compiz] Dual-screen compiz mostly working

2007-08-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 07:50 +, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
> 
>  - my second screen doesn't render properly. Compiz events cause it to 
> redraw but application events do not cause a redraw!
> This is a showstopper for me so i'm still using metacity when in dual-
> screen setup.

That sounds weird, can you create screenshots or something to illustrate
the problem?


>  - my screens must be vertically positioned. Compiz doesn't render the 
> full width when the screens are side by side. Even when vertically 
> position i cannot have the second screen at 1600x1400 for the same reason.
> Is this a limitation of compiz? Are there plans to fix/improve it?

This is most likely due to the coordinate limits of the hardware 3D
engine. That could be worked around in the Mesa driver, but there would
still be the texture size limit others pointed out, and that can't be
worked around in the drivers with the current
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap API so it would have to worked around by
different means by compiz.


>  - my fonts are not nearly as clean and crisp under compiz as they are 
> under metacity. It's like the fonts are thick and fuzzy under compiz. 

I've seen this before, I think it happened
when /apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/texture_filter is set to 2
(maybe also 1)
and /apps/compiz/plugins/cube/screen0/options/inactive_opacity was set
to less than 100 (which I think is a bad idea in general).


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Re: [compiz] Dual-screen compiz mostly working

2007-08-01 Thread Christopher Halse Rogers
On 8/1/07, Mick Semb Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:01:45 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote:
>
> Thanks Travis & Christopher!
>
> > >  - my screens must be vertically positioned. Compiz doesn't render the
> > > full width when the screens are side by side. Even when vertically
> > > position i cannot have the second screen at 1600x1400 for the same
> > >reason.
> > > Is this a limitation of compiz? Are there plans to fix/improve it?
>
> > Is a hardware/driver limitation.  You can't have textures larger than
> > 2048x2048, and your (total) desktop has to be one texture.
>
> > I think that it is technically possible for Compiz to work around this
> > limitation; there was a patch for a copy-mode rendering plugin that
> > theoretically could allow a graceful fallback for textures larger than
> > the hardware maximum.  I'm not sure if the patch actually had that
> > behaviour, and no-one seems to be trying to implement it.
>
> Where can i find this patch or "copy-mode rendering" plugin?
> (I'd like to atleast give it a try).
>
A quick search of the archives gives:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/compiz/2007-May/002165.html as
the link you are after.  Read the warning :).
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Re: [compiz] Dual-screen compiz mostly working

2007-08-01 Thread Mick Semb Wever
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:01:45 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote:

Thanks Travis & Christopher!

> >  - my screens must be vertically positioned. Compiz doesn't render the
> > full width when the screens are side by side. Even when vertically
> > position i cannot have the second screen at 1600x1400 for the same 
> >reason.
> > Is this a limitation of compiz? Are there plans to fix/improve it?

> Is a hardware/driver limitation.  You can't have textures larger than
> 2048x2048, and your (total) desktop has to be one texture.

> I think that it is technically possible for Compiz to work around this
> limitation; there was a patch for a copy-mode rendering plugin that
> theoretically could allow a graceful fallback for textures larger than
> the hardware maximum.  I'm not sure if the patch actually had that
> behaviour, and no-one seems to be trying to implement it.

Where can i find this patch or "copy-mode rendering" plugin?
(I'd like to atleast give it a try).

~mck


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Re: [compiz] Dual-screen compiz mostly working

2007-08-01 Thread Travis Watkins
On 8/1/07, Mick Semb Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have dual-screen compiz-fusion finally working on my ATI Radeon
> Mobility X600.
> AIGLX was the way to go using MergedFB.
>
> gentoo linux-2.6.22
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3
> x11-base/xorg-x11-7.2
> media-libs/mesa-6.5.2-r1
> x11-wm/compiz-
> x11-wm/compiz-fusion-
>
>
> But a number of remaining issues:
>
>  - my second screen doesn't render properly. Compiz events cause it to
> redraw but application events do not cause a redraw!
> This is a showstopper for me so i'm still using metacity when in dual-
> screen setup.
> I tried all sorts of tweaks onto my xorg.conf but nothing seemed to work.
> I thought it was maybe DynamicClocks but turning it to "off" didn't help.
> Do any of the compiz gurus know what might be at fault here or what i
> might do to provide better information on the bug?
>
>  - my screens must be vertically positioned. Compiz doesn't render the
> full width when the screens are side by side. Even when vertically
> position i cannot have the second screen at 1600x1400 for the same reason.
> Is this a limitation of compiz? Are there plans to fix/improve it?
>
>  - my nautilus background (& desktop icons) disappear replaced with the
> partially transparent cube. I haven't quite pinned down what causes this
> but it does very rarely also occur on single-screen setup. Opening more
> applications seems to aggravate it occurring, and so does the Reflection
> plugin.
>
>  - my fonts are not nearly as clean and crisp under compiz as they are
> under metacity. It's like the fonts are thick and fuzzy under compiz.
> (I'm sure there's a correct terminology for that but i'm no expert).
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> ~mck
>
>

Most of these problems are all the same problem, from the look of it.
Your screen resolution is higher than your video card's maximum
texture size. This is simply a hardware limitation. Compiz could do a
workaround for it but it'd be slow.

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[compiz] Dual-screen compiz mostly working

2007-08-01 Thread Mick Semb Wever
I have dual-screen compiz-fusion finally working on my ATI Radeon 
Mobility X600.
AIGLX was the way to go using MergedFB.

gentoo linux-2.6.22
x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3  
x11-base/xorg-x11-7.2 
media-libs/mesa-6.5.2-r1 
x11-wm/compiz-  
x11-wm/compiz-fusion- 


But a number of remaining issues:

 - my second screen doesn't render properly. Compiz events cause it to 
redraw but application events do not cause a redraw!
This is a showstopper for me so i'm still using metacity when in dual-
screen setup.
I tried all sorts of tweaks onto my xorg.conf but nothing seemed to work.
I thought it was maybe DynamicClocks but turning it to "off" didn't help.
Do any of the compiz gurus know what might be at fault here or what i 
might do to provide better information on the bug?

 - my screens must be vertically positioned. Compiz doesn't render the 
full width when the screens are side by side. Even when vertically 
position i cannot have the second screen at 1600x1400 for the same reason.
Is this a limitation of compiz? Are there plans to fix/improve it?

 - my nautilus background (& desktop icons) disappear replaced with the 
partially transparent cube. I haven't quite pinned down what causes this 
but it does very rarely also occur on single-screen setup. Opening more 
applications seems to aggravate it occurring, and so does the Reflection 
plugin.

 - my fonts are not nearly as clean and crisp under compiz as they are 
under metacity. It's like the fonts are thick and fuzzy under compiz. 
(I'm sure there's a correct terminology for that but i'm no expert).

any help would be greatly appreciated!

~mck


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