Re: [compiz] radeon or radeonhd or xf86-video-ati ( was Re: Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?)

2009-05-13 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 03:08:02 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 01:41:21 you wrote:
> > > Wil,
> > >
> > >        You got me here. What do you mean EXA v. XAA? How do I change to
> > > test? I have tested both the radeon and radeonh drivers and can't tell
> > > much of a difference, if any. You also suggest trying the
> > > xf86-video-ati. Is it supposedly faster than the radeon and radeonhd
> > > drivers? I'll poke around some more, but if you have a few extra bits
> > > of info on it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
> >
> > XAA & EXA are the 2 different acceleration methods for most X drivers.
> >  Intel additionally has UXA, but its based on EXA.I don't know
> > about the radeonhd driver, but the ati one defaults to XAA even tho
> > EXA generally provdes better performance these days (the commit has
> > been made to change the default to EXA in git, its just not released
> > yet).  Just add a line like
> >
> > Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
> > or
> > Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
> >
> > to the Device section in your xorg.conf file to change between them.
> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log will confirm what is getting used.
> >
> > Wil
>
> Got it!
>
>   Thanks. I'll give it a go and report back.

Holy Crap!

EXA makes a ton of difference! I can resize windows now without having 
to 
drag, un-click and ... wait. Man that's good.  Now if I could only get the 
openGL screensavers to work. All-in-all, I'm amazed at how good EXA works. 
Not near as fast as fglrx, but not too far behind. Thanks Wil!

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Re: [compiz] radeon or radeonhd or xf86-video-ati ( was Re: Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?)

2009-05-13 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 01:41:21 you wrote:
> >
> > Wil,
> >
> >        You got me here. What do you mean EXA v. XAA? How do I change to
> > test? I have tested both the radeon and radeonh drivers and can't tell
> > much of a difference, if any. You also suggest trying the xf86-video-ati.
> > Is it supposedly faster than the radeon and radeonhd drivers? I'll poke
> > around some more, but if you have a few extra bits of info on it, I'd
> > appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> XAA & EXA are the 2 different acceleration methods for most X drivers.
>  Intel additionally has UXA, but its based on EXA.I don't know
> about the radeonhd driver, but the ati one defaults to XAA even tho
> EXA generally provdes better performance these days (the commit has
> been made to change the default to EXA in git, its just not released
> yet).  Just add a line like
>
> Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
> or
> Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
>
> to the Device section in your xorg.conf file to change between them.
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log will confirm what is getting used.
>
> Wil

Got it! 

Thanks. I'll give it a go and report back.

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Re: [compiz] Emerald Theme Editor Windows Squished? [Solved]

2009-05-12 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 01:17:31 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
> Listmates,
>
>   On archlinux with emerald 0.8.2-1, the emerald theme editor windows are
> next to unusable. For some reason, the button edit 'Places' and 'Name'
> window areas are scrunched/squished way too small. Here is a screenshot:
>
> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/emerald/editwindowlayoutsq
>uished.jpg
>
>   I have tried to resize them and either I don't know how, or they are
> stuck. Any idea how I can fix this?

I kept clicking around and when you click on a filename that was 
truncated 
to:

Filen

The window automatically resizes to accommodate the filename length. 
Looks 
like something in the code isn't pre-reading the filename size to set the 
view window accordingly. (that's just my guess)


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[compiz] radeon or radeonhd or xf86-video-ati ( was Re: Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?)

2009-05-12 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Saturday 09 May 2009 10:49:50 you wrote:

>
> Cool.  I suspect this is the just the compiz default, why I have no idea.
>
> The fglrx driver is typically faster than either open source drivers
> in 3D, but I'll take the performance hit over a binary blob any day.
> I noticed in your logs you are using XAA, you can see if switching to
> EXA makes any of the issues go away.  Alternately, theres the
> xf86-video-ati driver you can try as well.  It shares a lot of code
> with radeonhd but sometimes it works better.
>
> Wil

Wil,

You got me here. What do you mean EXA v. XAA? How do I change to test? 
I have 
tested both the radeon and radeonh drivers and can't tell much of a 
difference, if any. You also suggest trying the xf86-video-ati. Is it 
supposedly faster than the radeon and radeonhd drivers? I'll poke around some 
more, but if you have a few extra bits of info on it, I'd appreciate it. 
Thanks.



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[compiz] Emerald Theme Editor Windows Squished?

2009-05-12 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Listmates,

On archlinux with emerald 0.8.2-1, the emerald theme editor windows are 
next 
to unusable. For some reason, the button edit 'Places' and 'Name' window 
areas are scrunched/squished way too small. Here is a screenshot:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/emerald/editwindowlayoutsquished.jpg

I have tried to resize them and either I don't know how, or they are 
stuck. 
Any idea how I can fix this?

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Re: [compiz] Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?

2009-05-09 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Friday 08 May 2009 23:23:57 you wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
>
>  wrote:
> > On Friday 08 May 2009 10:59:26 Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> >> On Fri, 8 May 2009 08:25:49 -0500
> >>
> >> "David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E."  wrote:
> >> > Sam, Danny, J., all
> >> >
> >> >     I am working with the radeon and radeonhd drivers seeing if I can
> >> > get them to work with compiz 0.8.2.1 on my radeon x1200 laptop. My
> >> > xorg .conf is:
> >> >
> >> > Section "Device"
> >> >   BoardName    "RV350 NP"
> >> > #  Driver       "radeon"
> >> >   Driver       "radeonhd"
> >> >   Identifier   "Device[0]"
> >> >   VendorName   "ATI"
> >> > EndSection
> >> >
> >> >     I have tried both the radeon and radeon hd driver with same
> >> > results. Upon Compiz start, the display behaves exactly like it is
> >> > going to work. The display goes blank, sequentially erasing and
> >> > redrawing each window, but then it never actually  starts. The windows
> >> > are just left there with no decor. You can sill provide in put to
> >> > them, but you cannot move or resize them. Issuing kwin --replace
> >> > causes the reverse to happen (windows destroyed, black screen, windows
> >> > then redrawn with kde decor.
> >> >
> >> >     Does anybody have and idea what's happening and how to fix it?
> >> > Thanks.
> >>
> >> Assuming you have the Mesa 3D drivers installed and working properly,
> >> then yes, compiz will work just fine.
> >>
> >> What distribution is this, and how are you trying to start compiz?
> >> What's the output of 'glxinfo'?
> >>
> >> Adam
> >> ___
> >
> > Adam,
> >
> >        I mesa is loaded, but I'm not sure what you mean by Mesa 3D. I
> > just know it as Mesa. Here is what is loaded:
> >
> > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
> > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control
> >
> >        Do I need something else?
>
> I had a problem similar to this on Gentoo.  I'd kick off compiz and no
> borders, no errors, nothing.  Then I realized everything was working
> fine, compiz just wasn't configured at all.  Figured it was just
> stupid defaults on Gentoo, perhaps its more global that that.  Try
> this - launch compiz however you do form a terminal, then run ccsm.
> Start enabling stuff.  under window management make sure you get 'move
> window' and 'resize window' and application switcher at the very
> least.  for image loading, select everything.  Under effects select
> 'window decorations'.  Under utility select 'dbus', 'glib' &
> 'inotify'.  Try that, it should get you basic functionality.  Beyond
> that, its all however much bling you want.  Most of the shiny comes
> from 'wobbly windows', '3d windows' and 'animations' tho.
>
> How that helps.
>
> Wil

Wil,

You are a genious! I never would have believed it. The current install 
is on 
archlinux. Most of my other installs are opensuse (where a fglrx driver is 
available). All I did was rsync my .config/compiz/compizconfig from an 
opensuse box over to my archlinux box, started compiz again and Presto! All 
was well in the world -- well almost ;-)

Man this was strange?? Is the default config distro specific or is it a 
compiz generic issues that could be tweaked here?

Only other strange issues for compiz with the radeonhd driver is that 
when I 
run glxgears, the background for the gears is completely transparent (100% 
gone). Additionally, shift switcher does not erase the original windows 
before drawing the shift switch windows (the gradient draws correctly though) 
See:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/radeonhd/shiftswitch.jpg

After closing all apps and restarting them shiftswitch seems ok??

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/radeonhd/shiftswitch.jpg

Only real downside so far with the radeonhd driver is the frame-rates 
in 
glxgears is about 1/5 what it was with the fglrx driver (Current: 188 FPS, 
w/fglrx: 1000 FPS). But the desktop effects work smoothly, etc.. The only 
noticeable lag is with rotate cube and on window resize, but it isn't that 
bad either.

Thanks again!

cc: radeo...@opensuse.org

Guys see also, the glxinfo output and Xorg.0.log:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/radeonhd/glxinfo-radeonhd

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/radeonhd/Xorg.0.log

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Re: [compiz] Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?

2009-05-08 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Friday 08 May 2009 10:59:26 Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009 08:25:49 -0500
>
> "David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E."  wrote:
> > Sam, Danny, J., all
> >
> > I am working with the radeon and radeonhd drivers seeing if I can get
> > them to work with compiz 0.8.2.1 on my radeon x1200 laptop. My xorg .conf
> > is:
> >
> > Section "Device"
> >   BoardName"RV350 NP"
> > #  Driver   "radeon"
> >   Driver   "radeonhd"
> >   Identifier   "Device[0]"
> >   VendorName   "ATI"
> > EndSection
> >
> > I have tried both the radeon and radeon hd driver with same results.
> > Upon Compiz start, the display behaves exactly like it is going to work.
> > The display goes blank, sequentially erasing and redrawing each window,
> > but then it never actually  starts. The windows are just left there with
> > no decor. You can sill provide in put to them, but you cannot move or
> > resize them. Issuing kwin --replace causes the reverse to happen (windows
> > destroyed, black screen, windows then redrawn with kde decor.
> >
> > Does anybody have and idea what's happening and how to fix it? Thanks.
>
> Assuming you have the Mesa 3D drivers installed and working properly,
> then yes, compiz will work just fine.
>
> What distribution is this, and how are you trying to start compiz?
> What's the output of 'glxinfo'?
>
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Adam,

    I mesa is loaded, but I'm not sure what you mean by Mesa 3D. I just 
know it 
as Mesa. Here is what is loaded:

(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control

Do I need something else?

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Re: [compiz] Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?

2009-05-08 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Friday 08 May 2009 10:37:25 you wrote:
> Try adding
>
> Option  "DRI"   "on"
>

Pierpaolo,

Thanks, sorry I forgot to include that information, but DRI is loaded:

[09:23 alchemy:/home/david] # grep -i dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' 
will be disabled.
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in 
the config file.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeonhd_drv.so
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) RADEONHD: X driver for the following AMD GPG (ATI) graphics devices:
(**) RADEONHD(0): Option "NoDRI" "no"
(II) RADEONHD(0): Found libdri 5.4.0.
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) RADEONHD(0): FB: Allocated DRI Back Buffer at offset 0x025D3000 (size = 
0x0190)
(II) RADEONHD(0): FB: Allocated DRI Depth Buffer at offset 0x03ED3000 (size = 
0x0190)
(II) RADEONHD(0): FB: Allocated DRI Textures at offset 0x057D3000 (size = 
0x0280)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
(II) RADEONHD(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized
(II) RADEONHD(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/r300_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0

The full Xorg.0.log is here:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/radeonhd/Xorg.0.log

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[compiz] Will radeon or radeonhd work with compiz?

2009-05-08 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Sam, Danny, J., all

I am working with the radeon and radeonhd drivers seeing if I can get 
them to 
work with compiz 0.8.2.1 on my radeon x1200 laptop. My xorg .conf is:

Section "Device"
  BoardName"RV350 NP"
#  Driver   "radeon"
  Driver   "radeonhd"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  VendorName   "ATI"
EndSection

I have tried both the radeon and radeon hd driver with same results. 
Upon 
Compiz start, the display behaves exactly like it is going to work. The 
display goes blank, sequentially erasing and redrawing each window, but then 
it never actually  starts. The windows are just left there with no decor. You 
can sill provide in put to them, but you cannot move or resize them. Issuing 
kwin --replace causes the reverse to happen (windows destroyed, black screen, 
windows then redrawn with kde decor.

Does anybody have and idea what's happening and how to fix it? Thanks.

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Re: [compiz] Compositing Manager Crash over XDMCP on .8.2.1 on Archlinux?

2009-05-04 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Friday 01 May 2009 19:50:30 you wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:49 AM, David C. Rankin
>
>  wrote:
> > Danny, Kristian, All,
> >
> >        First let me tell you guys whatever you are doing with compiz,
> > keep it up! It's looking great!
> >
> >        I have a new error on ArchLinux when running compiz 0.8.2.1 that I
> > have never seen before. I installed Archlinux on 2 boxes to check it out.
> > One on a x86_64 box with the nvidia driver (no problems there) and one on
> > an i686 box with onboard intel video.
> >
> >        When connecting over XDMCP to the x86_64 box, there is no problem
> > at all (I haven't tried compiz or compositing over xdmcp, but I get no
> > error). On the i686 box, same setup, I get an error that says
> > "Compositing Manger Crashed twice in... seconds disabling.." See:
> >
> > http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/ksplash-compositing-cr
> >ash.i686.png
>
> That looks like the KWin compositor crashing or not starting - I've
> never seen that error message in KDE with compiz.
>
> My guess is that Composite is not supported over XDMCP. Are you sure
> it worked before with previous compiz versions?
>
> If you can, enable the crashhandler plugin and provide us with a
> backtrace with one of it's logs. Thanks.
>

Sam, Thanks!

No, I don't know whether 'it' has ever worked before or not. Whatever 
the 'it/compositing' might be over XDMCP. What I do know is the error about 
the composite manager crash is the first one I have ever seen before. I've 
run compiz for a while and xdmcp as well and ever since the 0.5.x days I've 
never seen this error before, that's why I thought it was so strange.

I do have another piece of the puzzle though. I installed Arch on my 
laptop 
where I can't get compiz to work due to the (omitting curse words) ATI driver 
fiasco and Arch not having a fglrx driver. My laptop is using the 
OSS 'radeon' driver which is OK to look at, but no compiz. So while writing 
this email, I decided to test the XDMCP connection to the original i686 box 
that caused the error and ... I was able to connect without any error from my 
laptop currently running on the radeon driver.

I have 2 hard drives for my laptop. The other drive has the openSuSE 
11.0 
install on it that I was using when the error occurred. I'll reinstall it and 
enable the crashhandler and see if I can catch anything and report back.

Strange error indeed. At least with the test tonight we have narrowed 
it down 
to something on the openSuSE 11.0 install on my laptop ;-)

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Re: [compiz] compiz --replace ccp & AND libIndirectGL.so.1- Conundrum

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
CyberOrg wrote:
> On 10/29/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> If the libIndirectGL.so.1 link is present, fusion-icon will not run 
>> or
>> start compiz. I can't explain why. Renaming libIndirectGL.so.1 allows
>> fusion-icon to run.
>>
>>
> mv /usr/lib/libIndirectGL* /somewhere/else should solve if permanently.
> 
> -J

J,

You are right! But still no autostart? I have conducted a detailed
series of 3 tests in different configurations to hopefully shed some
light on the situation. Why fusion-icon should work, but compiz
--replace ccp & should fail does not make sense, but that is from my
limited understanding about compiz's foundations. Here are the test
scenarios and the results:

OS: openSuSE 10.3, all patches and updates
System: Toshiba P35-S629; Pentium 4 548 (3.33GHz, 1MB Cache) Processor;
1 Gigabyte of RAM; ATI Mobility Radeon 9700; 17 in. WXGA 1440x900

Compiz Components Installed:

19:38 Rankin-P35a~> rpm -qa | grep compiz
compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.1
python-compizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0-2.1
compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-manager-0.0.1_git071019-13.1
compiz-kde-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-emerald-0.5.2_git070825-1.4
compizconfig-settings-manager-0.6.0-1.4
libcompizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0-1.3
19:58 Rankin-P35a~> rpm -q fusion-icon
fusion-icon-0.0.1_071020-2.1

Working Configuration:

The only way compiz will start is by removing
the/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 link leaving only libIndirectGL.so.1.2 in
/usr/lib and then using fusion-icon to start compiz (period)

Test 1:

Configuration:

fusion-icon - off 'quit' used to exit program.

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # ll /usr/lib/libInd*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-10-29 17:42
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 440676 2007-09-21 20:34 /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.2
[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # exit
exit

Result:

19:32 Rankin-P35a~> compiz --replace ccp &
[1] 8995
19:32 Rankin-P35a~> compiz: Trying '/usr/$LIB/libIndirectGL.so.1'
compiz (core) - Fatal: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't
going to work.
compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0

[1]+  Exit 1  compiz --replace ccp

** All window decorations disappear and keyboard input is disabled after
executing compiz --replace ccp &. Mouse input continues to work.
Selecting kmenu -> system -> other programs -> fusion-icon required to
restore window decoration and keyboard input. On keyboard input
restoratioin, [ctrl+c] in konsole result in the " [1]+  Exit 1
compiz --replace ccp". On start fusion-icon has compiz selected
as the dtm, but compiz is not started. Window decoration is absent and
keyboard input is disabled. Selecting kwin from the fusion-icon context
window restores windown decoration and keyboard input



Configuration:

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david/linux/ati-compiz] # mv
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.sav
[root Rankin-P35a/home/david/linux/ati-compiz] # l /usr/lib/libInd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 440676 2007-09-21 20:34
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.2*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-10-29 17:42
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.sav -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2*

Test 2:

01:16 Rankin-P35a~> compiz --replace ccp &
[1] 4116
01:18 Rankin-P35a~> compiz: Trying '/usr/$LIB/libIndirectGL.so.1'
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libIndirectGL.so.1' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded: ignored.

[1]+  Segmentation fault  compiz --replace ccp

Test3:

fusion-icon -- loaded
select 'compiz'  Window Manager
[Success] All is well again.




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Re: [compiz] compiz autostart with AIGLX

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
CyberOrg wrote:

> 
> PS: Please do not cross post, it confuses people who use search
> engines for solutions and wastes unnecessary bandwidth.
> 

I'll give each autostart method a try and report back. But on cross
posting, which is the right list to post openSuSE 10.3 compiz issues to?
opensuse or compiz?

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[compiz] compiz --replace ccp & AND libIndirectGL.so.1- Conundrum

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Listmates,

I am narrowing down the reason that compiz will not autostart on my
Toshiba P35 laptop running openSuSE 10.3.

There seems to be a mutual exclusion between being able to do manual
start with "compiz --replace ccp &" and having compiz start at all with
"libIndirectGL.so.1" present in /usr/lib.

To get compiz to start on my system, I must manually rename the link
for libIndirectGL.so.1 or compiz will refuse to run (period).

For starters, when my desktop loads, it looks like it is trying to
start compiz, the deep shadow behind the cursor is there, but then it
loads kwin. Under control center -> sessions manager, there is no way to
select compiz or any other desktop manager. kwin is present, but greyed out.

To then start compiz, I must manually run fusion-icon. Running
fusion-icon Compiz starts just fine. Why compiz-manager doesn't run or
complete running fusion-icon on start is a standing question.

If the libIndirectGL.so.1 link is present, fusion-icon will not run or
start compiz. I can't explain why. Renaming libIndirectGL.so.1 allows
fusion-icon to run.

However, trying a manual start with "compiz --replace ccp &" fails if
libIndirectGL.so.1 is not there. That is the conundrum. There seems to
be a "catch 22" on my system between having, or not having, the
libIndirectGL.so.1 link present.

What can we test or try to solve this problem? Any thoughts?



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[compiz] compiz autostart with AIGLX

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
I have a feeling my no autostart problem is related to the following
tests in compiz-manager. Is there a way I can "step" through the script
on openSuSE 10.3 while it is running to find out where the script dies?
Or do I basically have to insert error returns throughout the script to
capture that info?

# if we run under Xgl, we can skip some tests here
if ! check_xgl; then
# if vesa or vga are in use, do not even try glxinfo (LP#119341)
if ! running_under_whitelisted_driver || have_blacklisted_pciid; then
abort_with_fallback_wm
fi
# check if we have the required bits to run compiz and if not,
# fallback
if ! check_tfp || ! check_npot_texture || ! check_composite || !
check_texture_size; then
abort_with_fallback_wm
fi

if check_nvidia && ! check_nvidia_memory; then
abort_with_fallback_wm
fi

if ! check_fbconfig; then
abort_with_fallback_wm
    fi
fi


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[compiz] All apps jumped out of the boat (systray) again.

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
List,

Mayday, app overboard!  All of the systray applications have jumped out
of the systray and have been found scattered over workspaces 1 and 4. I
saved as many as I could and I have them shown along the side of
workspace 1. There was one, klipper, that was placed beyond the screed
and could not be saved this time. See:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-systray.jpg
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-systray1.jpg

This happens very frequently. On average every other boot (since this
is a laptop, that happens frequently). I would like to find out (1) why
this occurs? and (2) how to fix it.

My OS is openSuSE 10.3 with the following installed:

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # rpm -qa | grep compiz
compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.1
python-compizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0-2.1
compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-manager-0.0.1_git071019-13.1
compiz-kde-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-emerald-0.5.2_git070825-1.4
compizconfig-settings-manager-0.6.0-1.4
libcompizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0-1.3

Compiz does not autostart requiring a manual run of fusion-icon to get
compiz running. I suspect the problems are related. Does anyone have any
ideas why this is happening. How can I make the apps stay in the systray
for good?



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Re: [compiz] Compiz - vista like Right Side Panel

2007-10-29 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Lauri Kainulainen wrote:
> David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote:
>> I have seen screenshots of compiz with a vista like right side panel
>> holding the clock, calendar, system stats, etc. that I would love to
>> add. The problem is that (1) I don't know what it is called or (2) where
>> to look to get it. I have looked at kasbar, ksim and universal sidebar
>> under KDE, but those are not what I've seen. Anyone else have any other
>> ideas?
> 
> I would guess that they're just superkaramba widgets
> (http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html) or desklets
> (www.gdesklets.de). there's also a widget engine called screenlets
> (.org), but i'm not sure if it's usable yet.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> lauri
> 

Thank you Steven and Lauri,

I think ya'll hit the nail on the head. It's either gDesklets or super
Karamba. I will look at both. I don't know what, if anything, is going
on with super Karamba, but it doesn't look like it has had any
development since 2006 and much of it is 2003. I'll also look at
creating a new panel and going at it that way. There is no reason that
shouldn't work.

Thanks again.


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[compiz] Compiz - vista like Right Side Panel

2007-10-28 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.

Guys (and girls)

I have seen screenshots of compiz with a vista like right side panel
holding the clock, calendar, system stats, etc. that I would love to
add. The problem is that (1) I don't know what it is called or (2) where
to look to get it. I have looked at kasbar, ksim and universal sidebar
under KDE, but those are not what I've seen. Anyone else have any other
ideas?

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Re: [compiz] No Compiz Autostart - SuSE 10.3 no /opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote:
> David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote:
>> CyberOrg wrote:
>>> On 10/27/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where can I find "/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop" and 
>>>> will
>>>> installing it manually fix the autostart problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ln -s /usr/share/compiz-manager/Compiz.desktop /opt/kde3/share/autostart/
>>>
>>> CU
>>>
>>> -J
>>>
>> No joy:
>>
>> [root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # l /usr/share/compiz-manager
>> total 8
>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2007-10-26 23:34 ./
>> drwxr-xr-x 217 root root 4096 2007-10-27 00:02 ../
>>
>> 1-click only installed the following (which helps explain the autostart
>> problem)
>>
>> [root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # rpm -qa | grep compiz
>> compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.1
>> python-compizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
>> compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0-2.1
>> compiz-0.6.2-2.1
>> compiz-kde-0.6.2-2.1
>> compiz-emerald-0.5.2_git070825-1.4
>> compizconfig-settings-manager-0.6.0-1.4
>> libcompizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
>> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0-1.3
>>
>> I'll go install the manager and report back! Thanks J.
>>
> 
> J,
> 
>   opensuse has issues with autostart. I installed compiz-manager. Compiz
> bombed and would not start. Having been through this before, I checked
> for the link:
> 
> /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2
> 
> and it was present. Compiz was DOA. Again, I moved libIndirectGL.so.1 to
> libIndirectGL.so.1.old and rebooted.
> 
>   No autostart. However, fusion-icon restored the beautiful working 
> compiz.
> 
>   This is the second time we have been through the  libIndirectGL.so.1
> issue. Recall, the first time, I was chastised for messing with the rpm
> install. (Note without messing with it, there would be no compiz at all)
> 
>   So what next? Is this an issue that needs to be reported? There is no
> autostart and the compiz-manager install borks compiz on the Toshiba
> P35. What can I do to help get to the bottom of this issue? I'm willing
> to got to the mat to help make compiz better. You guys have done
> fantastic work, and if I can contribute in some small way, I'll do it!
> Let me know.
> 
>   Last issue (I should start a new thread), but, I have seen a vista like
> side panel for compiz in screenshots, but I don't know what it is call
> or where to get it. Any hints?
> 

Here is my .config settings. Is there anything wrong with them?


22:40 Rankin-P35a~/.config> cat compiz/compizconfig/config
[kde_session]
profile =
backend = ini

22:43 Rankin-P35a~/.config> cat compiz/compizconfig/Default.ini
[decoration]
as_command = emerald --replace

[core]
as_active_plugins =
splash;move;regex;dbus;resize;shift;png;workarounds;zoom;decoration;minimize;wobbly;place;fade;cube;rotate;scale;cubereflex;switcher


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Re: [compiz] No Compiz Autostart - SuSE 10.3 no /opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. wrote:
> CyberOrg wrote:
>> On 10/27/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Where can I find "/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop" and will
>>> installing it manually fix the autostart problem?
>>>
>>>
>> ln -s /usr/share/compiz-manager/Compiz.desktop /opt/kde3/share/autostart/
>>
>> CU
>>
>> -J
>>
> No joy:
> 
> [root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # l /usr/share/compiz-manager
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2007-10-26 23:34 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 217 root root 4096 2007-10-27 00:02 ../
> 
> 1-click only installed the following (which helps explain the autostart
> problem)
> 
> [root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # rpm -qa | grep compiz
> compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.1
> python-compizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
> compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0-2.1
> compiz-0.6.2-2.1
> compiz-kde-0.6.2-2.1
> compiz-emerald-0.5.2_git070825-1.4
> compizconfig-settings-manager-0.6.0-1.4
> libcompizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0-1.3
> 
> I'll go install the manager and report back! Thanks J.
> 

J,

opensuse has issues with autostart. I installed compiz-manager. Compiz
bombed and would not start. Having been through this before, I checked
for the link:

/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2

and it was present. Compiz was DOA. Again, I moved libIndirectGL.so.1 to
libIndirectGL.so.1.old and rebooted.

No autostart. However, fusion-icon restored the beautiful working 
compiz.

This is the second time we have been through the  libIndirectGL.so.1
issue. Recall, the first time, I was chastised for messing with the rpm
install. (Note without messing with it, there would be no compiz at all)

So what next? Is this an issue that needs to be reported? There is no
autostart and the compiz-manager install borks compiz on the Toshiba
P35. What can I do to help get to the bottom of this issue? I'm willing
to got to the mat to help make compiz better. You guys have done
fantastic work, and if I can contribute in some small way, I'll do it!
Let me know.

        Last issue (I should start a new thread), but, I have seen a vista like
side panel for compiz in screenshots, but I don't know what it is call
or where to get it. Any hints?

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Re: [compiz] Cube Size Changes?

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Steven Hunt wrote:
> As far as I know, there is a difference because you have "cube
> reflection" turned on in the first link, and turned off in the second. 
> I have noticed they make the cube move a bit different when that effect
> is active.
> 
> On 10/27/07, *David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
> Listmates,
> 
> Interesting difference in size. The cube now seems to have
> grown in
> size during rotate. See the differences:
> 
> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-rotate.png
> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-rotate1.png
> <http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-rotate1.png>
> 
>             Is there a setting that controls this?
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Re: [compiz] No Compiz Autostart - SuSE 10.3 no /opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
CyberOrg wrote:
> On 10/27/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Where can I find "/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop" and will
>> installing it manually fix the autostart problem?
>>
>>
> ln -s /usr/share/compiz-manager/Compiz.desktop /opt/kde3/share/autostart/
> 
> CU
> 
> -J
> 
No joy:

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # l /usr/share/compiz-manager
total 8
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2007-10-26 23:34 ./
drwxr-xr-x 217 root root 4096 2007-10-27 00:02 ../

1-click only installed the following (which helps explain the autostart
problem)

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # rpm -qa | grep compiz
compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.1
python-compizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0-2.1
compiz-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-kde-0.6.2-2.1
compiz-emerald-0.5.2_git070825-1.4
compizconfig-settings-manager-0.6.0-1.4
libcompizconfig-0.6.0-1.3
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0-1.3

I'll go install the manager and report back! Thanks J.

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[compiz] No Compiz Autostart - SuSE 10.3 no /opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Listmates,

I am trying to determine why compiz will not autostart. Manual start
with fusion-icon is required and works fine. One thing I did notice
while removing compiz last time with:

rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep compiz) fusion-icon

was that compiz-manager would not uninstall due to a missing
"/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop"  Upon reinstall with 1-click,
"/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop" is still not present. I
suspect this is my autostart problem.

Where can I find "/opt/kde3/share/autostart/compiz.desktop" and will
installing it manually fix the autostart problem?


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[compiz] Cube Size Changes?

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Listmates,

Interesting difference in size. The cube now seems to have grown in
size during rotate. See the differences:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-rotate.png
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-rotate1.png

Is there a setting that controls this?

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Re: [compiz] Possible Bug in multiple Compiz 1-Click Install

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
CyberOrg wrote:
> On 10/27/07, David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 is mv to /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.old to
>> eliminate the .so.1 library.
>>
>> If a second one click install on opensuse 10.3 is attempted, the mv
>> from .so.1 to .so.1.old fails (because .old is already present) leaving
>> the .so.1 lib. This causes the error:
>>
>> compiz (core) - Fatal: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't
>> going to work.
>> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
>> compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0
>>
>> Deleting the .so.1 lib completely restores compiz to a working 
>> condition.
>>
>> Does this need reporting?
> 
> You are not supposed to manually mess with any files installed by RPM
> and expect it to work correctly :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -J

J

I didn't, I swear! I didn't do the original mv to create the .old, the
only thing I did was to try the mv in response to advise from Ben to
cure the above error and found that the .old already existed. Strange.
Something created the .old file on my system. It is a good thing to,
because compiz would not run with /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 present.
Runs find with it moved to .old.

Does compiz have its "init layout" anywhere or is that what
/usr/bin/compiz-manager does? I would like to have a step by step layout
of the initialization so I could go back and hand test each step to find
where the problem is the next time compiz decides to disappear.

Thanks for your help!

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[compiz] Possible Bug in multiple Compiz 1-Click Install

2007-10-27 Thread David C. Rankin J.D. P.E.
Listmates,

There was no rhyme or reason why another /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1
got installed on my system, but it did:

[root Rankin-P35a/home/david] # l /usr/lib/libIn*?
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 440676 2007-09-21 20:34
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.2*?
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-10-12 03:00
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.old -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2*?
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-10-26 20:37
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.old.2 -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2*?

Some part of the install creates the link of:

/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 -> libIndirectGL.so.1.2

At another part of the process

/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1 is mv to /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.old to
eliminate the .so.1 library.

If a second one click install on opensuse 10.3 is attempted, the mv
from .so.1 to .so.1.old fails (because .old is already present) leaving
the .so.1 lib. This causes the error:

compiz (core) - Fatal: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't
going to work.
compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0

Deleting the .so.1 lib completely restores compiz to a working 
condition.

Does this need reporting?


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