Re: [Components] Benchmarking mvc frameworks

2009-03-24 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Benjamin Eberlei wrote:

 On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:59:10 +0100, Gaetano Giunta g...@ez.no wrote:
  An interesting blog post (an update in fact) about relative speed of
  different frameworks in building a simple mvc app:
  
  http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=421
  
  eZComponents are not included, mainly I think because when the original
  test was carried out in 2006 the mvc component did not exist.
  
  It would be nice if somebody could find a couple of hours to create the
  equivalent ezc-based app and test it.
  Even if we do not come out first in terms of speed, just showing up that
  blog page would be useful, I think.
 
 @gaetano: I can tell you ezcMvc is frikking fast in the hello world
 business. I haven't made a statistically sound benchmark but i did some
 siege testing ZF vs ezcMvc base apps (using the PHP View Handler) and ezc
 was faster by a multitude.

Would you be interested in spending some time on this? It'd be good to 
know what the ballpark difference is. Not only speed wise, but also 
feature wise.

 Also, performance is really a non-issue if you decide to use a
 framework/mvc implementation in my opinion.

That I disagree with. Latency is something that's really annoying for 
users.

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Re: [Components] Benchmarking mvc frameworks

2009-03-24 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
i don't say latency is not an issue, but mvc applications make it really easy 
to add caching at a later point without hazzle and that makes up lots of speed 
if needed. 

also i made the observation, that although mvc frameworks hit php performance 
pretty hard, its not always observable for the end-user, since php time makes 
up only a short amount compared to either Database or UI (Javascript) stuff.

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 09:50:11 Derick Rethans wrote:
 On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
  On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:59:10 +0100, Gaetano Giunta g...@ez.no wrote:
   An interesting blog post (an update in fact) about relative speed of
   different frameworks in building a simple mvc app:
  
   http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=421
  
   eZComponents are not included, mainly I think because when the original
   test was carried out in 2006 the mvc component did not exist.
  
   It would be nice if somebody could find a couple of hours to create the
   equivalent ezc-based app and test it.
   Even if we do not come out first in terms of speed, just showing up
   that blog page would be useful, I think.
 
  @gaetano: I can tell you ezcMvc is frikking fast in the hello world
  business. I haven't made a statistically sound benchmark but i did some
  siege testing ZF vs ezcMvc base apps (using the PHP View Handler) and ezc
  was faster by a multitude.

 Would you be interested in spending some time on this? It'd be good to
 know what the ballpark difference is. Not only speed wise, but also
 feature wise.

  Also, performance is really a non-issue if you decide to use a
  framework/mvc implementation in my opinion.

 That I disagree with. Latency is something that's really annoying for
 users.

 regards,
 --
 Derick Rethans
 eZ components Product Manager
 eZ systems | http://ez.no

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Benjamin Eberlei
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