[computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
Hi all, I am pleased to announce a binary release of current version of MoGo. It is specially designed for players but of course it may be interesting for some of you as a benchmark. You download it and see the instructions there: http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo.htm Of course, please feel free to talk of it around you, share the link, and put the link on your webpage :). Please distribute the link but not the package directly, so that I keep track of the distribution, and maybe put some fixes, so that people always get the latest version. Unfortunately, only the linux version is available (for the moment?). I wanted to wait for the windows version to be available at the same time, but it is 2 times slower than the linux version(!!), so I decided not to distribute it for the moment. I use cygwin for that, and maybe the reason is that cygwin has only gcc 3.4.2, and which produce a much slower binary. If anyone has a solution, I would be pleased to put the windows version as soon as possible. I would also take this occasion to say goodbye to you all, and thank you for all the discussions. I now finished (and almost defended :)) my PhD, and my work on MoGo is finished. So it is very likely that I will not make any further contribution to MoGo. I would like to say that I spent a very good year in the computer Go community, with of course a warm special thank to Yizao. Of course, I will follow the future discussions on this list with pleasure. Best, Sylvain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
Well, it has been a pleasure and instructive for all of us! Good luck with whatever comes next. Cheers, David On 9, Sep 2007, at 12:20 PM, Sylvain Gelly wrote: I would also take this occasion to say goodbye to you all, and thank you for all the discussions. I now finished (and almost defended :)) my PhD, and my work on MoGo is finished. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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Congratulations. Are there any plans to release the source? Perhaps someone else will figure out how to port it. - Brian ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Binary release of MoGo
Sylvain Gelly: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately, only the linux version is available (for the moment?). I wanted to wait for the windows version to be available at the same time, but it is 2 times slower than the linux version(!!), so I decided not to distribute it for the moment. I use cygwin for that, and maybe the reason is that cygwin has only gcc 3.4.2, and which produce a much slower binary. If anyone has a solution, I would be pleased to put the windows version as soon as possible. Try MinGW (and MSYS). MinGW has GCC ver. 4.2.1. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435 I would also take this occasion to say goodbye to you all, and thank you for all the discussions. I now finished (and almost defended :)) my PhD, and my work on MoGo is finished. So it is very likely that I will not make any further contribution to MoGo. I would like to say that I spent a very good year in the computer Go community, with of course a warm special thank to Yizao. Of course, I will follow the future discussions on this list with pleasure. Conguratlations and thank you! It's always fun to talk with you. -gg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
2007/9/9, Brian Slesinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any plans to release the source? I don't think so. Plus, some will work on MoGo source code, so it is their decision, not mine. Perhaps someone else will figure out how to port it. Well, it actually builds and work on windows, only the speed is an issue. I should try if the speed is the same on linux with such an old compiler. My guess is that it is really a matter of compiler version. (even if it seems incredible to have a +100% speed only with the compiler!). Maybe it is also a question of libc version? Sylvain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Binary release of MoGo
Try MinGW (and MSYS). MinGW has GCC ver. 4.2.1. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435 Yes, I saw that and tried. But the thing is that MoGo use pthread library for multitreading, and, as far as I know, MinGW does not provide pthread (does it?). It is why I needed cygwin. It seems that some succeed in compiling gcc 4.2 on cygwin, but it seems really painful, and I can't allocate so much time to do that... I guess that cygwin will eventually release a modern compiler :-). Sylvain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
Thanks Sylvain, This is a wonderful gift to the computer go community! - Don On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 21:20 +0200, Sylvain Gelly wrote: Hi all, I am pleased to announce a binary release of current version of MoGo. It is specially designed for players but of course it may be interesting for some of you as a benchmark. You download it and see the instructions there: http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo.htm Of course, please feel free to talk of it around you, share the link, and put the link on your webpage :). Please distribute the link but not the package directly, so that I keep track of the distribution, and maybe put some fixes, so that people always get the latest version. Unfortunately, only the linux version is available (for the moment?). I wanted to wait for the windows version to be available at the same time, but it is 2 times slower than the linux version(!!), so I decided not to distribute it for the moment. I use cygwin for that, and maybe the reason is that cygwin has only gcc 3.4.2, and which produce a much slower binary. If anyone has a solution, I would be pleased to put the windows version as soon as possible. I would also take this occasion to say goodbye to you all, and thank you for all the discussions. I now finished (and almost defended :)) my PhD, and my work on MoGo is finished. So it is very likely that I will not make any further contribution to MoGo. I would like to say that I spent a very good year in the computer Go community, with of course a warm special thank to Yizao. Of course, I will follow the future discussions on this list with pleasure. Best, Sylvain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS Question
CGOS uses Tromp/Taylor scoring exactly. That means if a stone is still on the board it is alive. Games must be fully played out. The cgos main page discusses rules and such. - Don On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 15:39 -0700, Phil G wrote: Don, Does CGOS count stones in atari as alive or dead? Phil ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
On 9/9/07, Sylvain Gelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps someone else will figure out how to port it. Well, it actually builds and work on windows, only the speed is an issue. I should try if the speed is the same on linux with such an old compiler. My guess is that it is really a matter of compiler version. (even if it seems incredible to have a +100% speed only with the compiler!). Maybe it is also a question of libc version? Well, I'm hoping for a Mac version someday... - Brian ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a coredump: $ mogo --9 --time 12 Load opening database opening succeed (nbEntries=618) (nbIllegalMoves removed 0) tried to open opening, success 1 Illegal instruction (core dumped) could it be that it is compiled for specific CPU architecture? - Markus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a I mean Fedora 7... - Markus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
What are the options for someone who would like a dan-level opponent (even if it's 9x9) but doesn't have a Linux system currently? Are there choices other than MoGo? If not, I'm willing to build a Linux box but I have some questions: - Is a quad-core Xeon better for MoGo than a higher-clocked Core 2 Duo? - How much RAM? - Which Linux distribution has it been tested with? Any advice you can offer is greatfully appreciated. Thanks, David ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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I have no problem running on a core 2 duo Ubuntu linux (feisty fawn) It also runs with multiple threads. I tried 8 threads (even though I have only 2 cores) and it worked just fine. - Don On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 01:33 +0200, Cenny Wenner wrote: Runs like a charm on FC6 64bit, one core. How impressively fast MoGo is. Thank you for sharing. On 9/10/07, Markus Enzenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a I mean Fedora 7... - Markus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS Question
Thanks for the clarification; I thought somewhere I had read that with Tromp/Taylor rules stones in atari as considered dead. Gotta go fix my bot now. Phil - Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2007 3:53:35 PM Subject: Re: [computer-go] CGOS Question CGOS uses Tromp/Taylor scoring exactly. That means if a stone is still on the board it is alive. Games must be fully played out. The cgos main page discusses rules and such. - Don On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 15:39 -0700, Phil G wrote: Don, Does CGOS count stones in atari as alive or dead? Phil ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
It is a good news for all of us. I have no time to develop my Go program now, but I will use it as a local opponent when I come back again. Unfortunately, only the linux version is available (for the moment?). I wanted to wait for the windows version to be available at the same time, but it is 2 times slower than the linux version(!!), so I decided not to distribute it for the moment. I use cygwin for that, and maybe the reason is that cygwin has only gcc 3.4.2, and which produce a much slower binary. If anyone has a solution, I would be pleased to put the windows version as soon as possible. Have you tried Visual C++? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/aa975050.aspx -- Yamato ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
I'm a little confused. If I operate with no parameters it works ok, but if I do ./mogo --7 (for instance) it goes into some kind of self-training mode. It seems to do this no matter what parameter I use including setting the number of processes. If I go with no command line options, I can set any board using gtp commands but I can't change the number of processes used. - Don On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 20:40 -0400, Don Dailey wrote: The command line parameter to change board size does nothing. I tried: ./mogo --19 ./mogo -19 and it only seemed to want to play on 9x9 boards.Am I doing something wrong? A similar problem with the levels - it doesn't seem to matter what time I set. Does the command line parsing work? - Don On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 19:43 -0400, Don Dailey wrote: I have no problem running on a core 2 duo Ubuntu linux (feisty fawn) It also runs with multiple threads. I tried 8 threads (even though I have only 2 cores) and it worked just fine. - Don On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 01:33 +0200, Cenny Wenner wrote: Runs like a charm on FC6 64bit, one core. How impressively fast MoGo is. Thank you for sharing. On 9/10/07, Markus Enzenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a I mean Fedora 7... - Markus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
What are the options for someone who ... doesn't have a Linux system currently? LiveCDs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveCD ) allow you to do a temporary linux installation. Of course, then you have to decide which one, and which distro. I would think any of those marked for general in this page would be fine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_LiveDistros Darren ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo
Thanks Sylvain for this wonderful gift! Is there a option like gnugo's --capture-all-dead? In my test(./mogo --9 --time 1), seems mogo passed when not capture alldead stones. By the way, is --time 0.1 valid? ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
