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2007-10-14 Thread Stefan Mertin
Jason House gmail.com> writes
> I believe that pondering is also more popular today.  How the opponent
> uses their time can affect bot performance as well.

Absolutely,
pondering is very important
e.g. for computer play against humans 
as I erperienced with Suzie in Villach!

But my contest is more a test than a competition:
winning is not as important as finding out the exact playing strength!
Pondering is fuzzy and would confuse these results
more than helping to get reliable results.
So I set pondering disabled and give a high time setting instead
and there is no WIN or LOOSE on TIME result!

Stefan
  


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RE: [computer-go] Mertin's p rivate 9×9 & 19×19 tournament

2007-10-14 Thread Stefan Mertin
David Doshay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> Hi Stefan,
> What would you do about machines with different hardware requirements?
> We sent email a few years ago about SlugGo, and at that time there was
> nothing you could do about having it compete because of its multi-Mac needs.
> 
> Cheers,
> David

Yes, sorry, but it is true. I want to try make participation of
Linux programs possible but other platforms and hardware
requirements are above my possibilities. 
If I understand it right, luckily we soon will have a new 
19x19 CGoS - as on 9x9 I think this still will be the best
testing environment for your special hardware go engines!  

One day hopefully there will be some more live tournaments
with humans and computers playing and with a good sponsor 
for some prize money...! I organized a very humble little 
9x9 Go Suzie plays against human players event
on the European Go Congress last summer in Villach, Austria,
and some very strong profi players from Korea, Russian,
Europe were trying it with a lot of people watching and 
having fun. Suzie played around 5 kyu on the computer
available there. Martin Mueller did present a lecture
on progress in computer Go and really a lot of people 
showed very much interest.

But did you ever try roundbased tournaments like Dragon go server 
or email-go like It´sYourTurn?
Would be great to have some games played there by your 
best playing configuration with very long time settings, no?!

Thanks,
   Stefan


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Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS

2007-10-14 Thread Joshua Shriver
I'd be willing to manage it as well. Just need an IP , ssh and l/p heh.

-Josh

On 10/13/07, Lavergne Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If needed I can also offer an account on a server with space, webserver
> and an account for you to manage the CGOS server, but I don't have the
> time to manage it myself.
>
> Contact me if needed.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 02:31:54PM -0400, Don Dailey wrote:
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> >
> > I don't think this requires a great deal of bandwidth.   Right now cgos
> > 9x9 is getting by with 1 GIG of disk space and it's not enough - so even
> > 2-5 Gig would be adequate.I have run the server from my home cable
> > modem connection and no problem whatsoever.
> >
> > It doesn't matter where the web server is as long as the CGOS server can
> > write the data directly to a disk somewhere.   I suppose it could even
> > write via a networked file system - perhaps something like FUSE mounted
> > via ssh (ssh filesystem)
> >
> > However, I might have a solution now.   I'm talking right now to David
> > Doshay about using one his university machines for this.
> >
> > Can I get back to you on this in case it doesn't work out?
> >
> > - - Don
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Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS

2007-10-14 Thread Joshua Shriver
Sure, I have a webserver in a major datacenter so webhosting isn't  a
problem. As for running the server itself I also have a cable modem
with a static IP but wasn't sure if that was enough for run it.

Let me know if I can help. I run linux at home but could setup a VM
Windows box if it's windows only code.

-Josh

On 10/13/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I don't think this requires a great deal of bandwidth.   Right now cgos
> 9x9 is getting by with 1 GIG of disk space and it's not enough - so even
> 2-5 Gig would be adequate.I have run the server from my home cable
> modem connection and no problem whatsoever.
>
> It doesn't matter where the web server is as long as the CGOS server can
> write the data directly to a disk somewhere.   I suppose it could even
> write via a networked file system - perhaps something like FUSE mounted
> via ssh (ssh filesystem)
>
> However, I might have a solution now.   I'm talking right now to David
> Doshay about using one his university machines for this.
>
> Can I get back to you on this in case it doesn't work out?
>
> - - Don
>
>
> Joshua Shriver wrote:
> > What kind of bandwidth would be required and can the webserver be
> > different from the cgos host?  If anything I can dedicated free
> > webspace, subdomain, whatever.
> >
> > -Josh
> >
> > On 10/13/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are having some trouble getting 19x19 CGOS running on a volunteered
> > machine as there is no administration privileges on that machine.
> >
> > So we still need a volunteer who will host a machine (and hopefully
> > administer it as well.)
> >
> >
> > What we need:
> >
> > 1. A linux machine on a reliable network.
> > 2. Exposed directly to the internet.
> > 3. A working web server.
> > 4. Ability to make a port available for the socket.
> >
> >
> > If you can give me an account on this machine I can adminster and set it
> > up, but if YOU want to administer it, that is even better.
> >
> >
> > - Don
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Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS

2007-10-14 Thread Olivier Teytaud

If needed I can also offer an account on a server with space, webserver
and an account for you to manage the CGOS server, but I don't have the
time to manage it myself.


We (the mogo-team) can install the cgos 19x19 server; we will 
keep and admninister it if everything works well with our network.

Olivier
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