Re: [computer-go] How about organising a CGOS day ?

2007-11-30 Thread Jason House

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:04 +0100, Rémi Coulom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I thought it may be a good idea to decide on a day when everybody would 
 connect to CGOS. Many programmers do not wish to let their program play 
 forever on the server, so it may be interesting to decide on a day to 
 connect, so that a high variety of programs can play against each other. 
 Maybe one week-end every month, between KGS tournaments? What do you think?
 
 Rémi

I'm up for that.  I could dedicate more hardware on a weekday than on a
weekend though.

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Re: [computer-go] How about organising a CGOS day ?

2007-11-30 Thread Don Dailey

 I certainly would.  Urban Hafner posted a small script that did
 something like this.  With a few enhancements, that may work too.
   
The main thing is that such a script should choose players randomly. 
Image if several people were playing 2 bots - they would all be in
lockstep and never get the full variety of opponents.

- Don

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Re: [computer-go] How about organising a CGOS day ?

2007-11-30 Thread Jason House

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 14:51 -0500, Don Dailey wrote:
 I don't have a problem with a special CGOS day or week,  but I would
 prefer to see an effort to get CGOS seeded with more variety at ALL
 times. Part of the convenience of having CGOS is that you can test a
 change at any time.  
 
 One way to do this is some kind of sponsor system.   If you have spare
 cpu cycles agree to host someones bot for a period of time.


Another way would be to find a way that sponsors/owners don't have to
keep manually restarting their bots every few days.  I'm more than
willing to run bots 24/7, but I get lazy and don't restart them.



 A casual glance at CGOS (9x9) shows a 2198 rated program actively
 playing,  and yet a 2550 rated program appears on the list - not having
 played since November 11th. I believe a lot of very strong programs
 resort to setting up their programs to play at low levels just to enjoy
 some competition.
 
 Something that may help a little is to build a client that dynamically
 switches programs so that you can run 2 or more bots (but only 1 at a
 time.)The switching should be randomized, not alternating.Would
 anyone be interested should I decide to build such a client?

I certainly would.  Urban Hafner posted a small script that did
something like this.  With a few enhancements, that may work too.




 I'm not going to be the one to organize a special day or a sponsor
 system, but I would welcome either type of effort.

Fair enough

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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Chris Fant
Oops, I see it now.

On Nov 30, 2007 10:32 AM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dutch, German, Latin and French?  Can someone please translate to this 
 language?



 On Nov 30, 2007 10:28 AM, Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Nov 30, 2007 9:00 AM, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You find it in http://daogo.org/download/computer_go_02.pdf page 27
 
  I was a subscriber to this journal.  When I read this piece back in
  1987, I had assumed that it was humor; a joke.
 
  The article provides a number of subtle clues toward that effect.
  (Humidity, orange-juice cans plus miles of wire, the price, 243 lines
  of C code, and especially No-Yoke Importers.)
 
  I believe that if you re-read the article while entertaining the
  assumption that it is a farcical satire, you may similarly become
  convinced that it was an attempt at levity.
 
  The picture on the cover, however, is not a joke; Leibniz did write an
  article on go that appeared in a scholarly journal in 1710.  The
  original Latin (in which it was fashionable for scholars to write,
  back then) as well as a few translations may be found at
  http://www.gozillago.net/Leibnitz/Leibnitz.html  by those who may
  have an interest in such things.
  --
  Rich
 
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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Richard Brown
On Nov 30, 2007 9:00 AM, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You find it in http://daogo.org/download/computer_go_02.pdf page 27

I was a subscriber to this journal.  When I read this piece back in
1987, I had assumed that it was humor; a joke.

The article provides a number of subtle clues toward that effect.
(Humidity, orange-juice cans plus miles of wire, the price, 243 lines
of C code, and especially No-Yoke Importers.)

I believe that if you re-read the article while entertaining the
assumption that it is a farcical satire, you may similarly become
convinced that it was an attempt at levity.

The picture on the cover, however, is not a joke; Leibniz did write an
article on go that appeared in a scholarly journal in 1710.  The
original Latin (in which it was fashionable for scholars to write,
back then) as well as a few translations may be found at
http://www.gozillago.net/Leibnitz/Leibnitz.html  by those who may
have an interest in such things.
-- 
Rich
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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread A van Kessel
 I wonder if the power supply can be adapted to European 230V system. It
Without modifications, the system would centainly play at dan level.
At least: close to God.

BTW: the Fotland-article about ladders is very readable.
A must-read, even if you want to implement things differently.

AvK
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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Chris Fant
Ha.

... prepaid by truck?  This sounds like a joke.  171 1987 CPUs and
243 lines of code?  I don't think so.



On Nov 30, 2007 10:17 AM, Heikki Levanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:12:24AM -0500, Lars Nilsson wrote:
   You find it in http://daogo.org/download/computer_go_02.pdf page 27
 
  Has anyone heard of the No-Yoke Importers company? Is the device still
  for sale? ;)

 I wonder if the power supply can be adapted to European 230V system. It
 seemed complex...

 -Heikki

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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Lambrechts

You find it in http://daogo.org/download/computer_go_02.pdf page 27

Ben

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Ben Lambrechts wrote:

I was reading in the old computer go magazines.
In number 2 page 27 I found the attached article.


There was no attached article. Can you provide a link?

Christoph

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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Joshua Shriver
There are computer go , or even just go Magazines? Any recommendations?

-Josh

On Nov 30, 2007 6:43 AM, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,

 I was reading in the old computer go magazines.
 In number 2 page 27 I found the attached article.

 Why is nobody repeating this experiment?
 If a bot can play as 3d 1987, how strong would it be right now?
 Is there someone whit access to the source-code of this machine?

 Ben

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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Christoph Birk

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Ben Lambrechts wrote:

I was reading in the old computer go magazines.
In number 2 page 27 I found the attached article.


There was no attached article. Can you provide a link?

Christoph

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[computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Lambrechts

Hi,

I was reading in the old computer go magazines.
In number 2 page 27 I found the attached article.

Why is nobody repeating this experiment?
If a bot can play as 3d 1987, how strong would it be right now?
Is there someone whit access to the source-code of this machine?

Ben

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[computer-go] How about organising a CGOS day ?

2007-11-30 Thread Rémi Coulom

Hi,

I thought it may be a good idea to decide on a day when everybody would 
connect to CGOS. Many programmers do not wish to let their program play 
forever on the server, so it may be interesting to decide on a day to 
connect, so that a high variety of programs can play against each other. 
Maybe one week-end every month, between KGS tournaments? What do you think?


Rémi
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Re: [computer-go] Micro-Matrix GO Machine

2007-11-30 Thread Chris Fant
Dutch, German, Latin and French?  Can someone please translate to this language?


On Nov 30, 2007 10:28 AM, Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 30, 2007 9:00 AM, Ben Lambrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You find it in http://daogo.org/download/computer_go_02.pdf page 27

 I was a subscriber to this journal.  When I read this piece back in
 1987, I had assumed that it was humor; a joke.

 The article provides a number of subtle clues toward that effect.
 (Humidity, orange-juice cans plus miles of wire, the price, 243 lines
 of C code, and especially No-Yoke Importers.)

 I believe that if you re-read the article while entertaining the
 assumption that it is a farcical satire, you may similarly become
 convinced that it was an attempt at levity.

 The picture on the cover, however, is not a joke; Leibniz did write an
 article on go that appeared in a scholarly journal in 1710.  The
 original Latin (in which it was fashionable for scholars to write,
 back then) as well as a few translations may be found at
 http://www.gozillago.net/Leibnitz/Leibnitz.html  by those who may
 have an interest in such things.
 --
 Rich

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