Re: [computer-go] time measurement
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 03:15 +0100, Raymond Wold wrote: > Darren Cook wrote: > >> It's just a can of worms to require some proprietary binary that people > >> have to use, trust, and believe is unhackable. > > > > Reverse-engineering the binary itself to then make your own client is > > still a risk, but is a specialist skill beyond most go programmers. > > I could most likely do it. Isn't that enough? How many go programmers > with the know-how is too many? I think any good programmer could do this given the desire and motivation, even if it isn't your specialty.I just think it's the rare person inclined to want to do this. - Don > ___ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] time measurement
Darren Cook wrote: It's just a can of worms to require some proprietary binary that people have to use, trust, and believe is unhackable. Reverse-engineering the binary itself to then make your own client is still a risk, but is a specialist skill beyond most go programmers. I could most likely do it. Isn't that enough? How many go programmers with the know-how is too many? ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE?
Isaac, I haven't looked at this stuff for a while. I'm not at home so I can't look at it now. >From the error I understand that tesuji/games/general/MoveIterator is missing. It is there in the Subversion source-tree however. So I don't know what could be wrong. Maybe it's somehow missing in the GoEngineGTP.jar If you can wait until Wednesday I'll fix it for you then. Mark On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Isaac Deutsch wrote: > I put all files in a folder like so: > > http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5272/bild4ya1.png > > But I get various errors when I try to run, for example, GoEngineGTP.jar > with "java -jar ...", also I'm not able to select the RefBot as player. > I'm not sure what the others do, but one seems to connect to the 19x19 CGOS > server. I don't have any experience with java. Any ideas? > > Isaac > > The beginning of the error: > org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean > with name 'TesujiRefBot' defined in file [/Users/ibd/Desktop/computer > go/Rango/CGOS/TesujiRefBot.xml]: Cannot resolve reference to bean > 'referenceLibertyAdministration' while setting bean property > 'monteCarloAdministration'; nested exception is > org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean > with name 'referenceLibertyAdministration' defined in file > [/Users/ibd/Desktop/computer go/Rango/CGOS/TesujiRefBot.xml]: Instantiation > of bean failed; nested exception is java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > tesuji/games/general/MoveIterator > > > Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:30:53 -0200 >> Von: Mark Boon >> An: computer-go >> Betreff: Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE? > >> You can get everything here: >> >> http://plug-and-go.dev.java.net >> >> The MCTS program description is under 'Derived Projects'. >> >> You don't really need the source-code. You can just get the 'binaries >> & scripts' and then copy the files 'TesujiRefBot.jar' and >> 'TesujiRefBot.xml' to the directory where you put the binaries and >> everything works automagically. It's all plug and go. You may want to >> change the number of nodes to read in the XML file to 50K (it's called >> minimumNrNodes). >> >> Of course if you prefer to get the source you are free to do so. >> >> I do remember making a significant fix a little while ago that I don't >> think I submitted yet. But I won't be able to commit that for a few >> more days as I'm not at home. But if you implemented RAVE correctly >> your bot should do at least as well as this one. >> >> Hopefully it's any help. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Isaac Deutsch wrote: >> > >> >> I'm currently tied up but you can get my MCTS implementation, which >> >> includes RAVE, and set it up to play 50K playouts. It's only a matter >> >> of setting the right number in the configuration file. >> >> >> >> You can also use it to play through two-gtp, that way you can test an >> >> awful lot faster. >> >> >> >> Mark >> > >> > Hi Mark, >> > >> > This would be awesome. Can you send the source code to this eMail >> address? >> > >> > Thanks, ibd >> > -- >> > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit >> allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 >> > ___ >> > computer-go mailing list >> > computer-go@computer-go.org >> > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> > >> ___ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > -- > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > ___ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE?
I put all files in a folder like so: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5272/bild4ya1.png But I get various errors when I try to run, for example, GoEngineGTP.jar with "java -jar ...", also I'm not able to select the RefBot as player. I'm not sure what the others do, but one seems to connect to the 19x19 CGOS server. I don't have any experience with java. Any ideas? Isaac The beginning of the error: org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name 'TesujiRefBot' defined in file [/Users/ibd/Desktop/computer go/Rango/CGOS/TesujiRefBot.xml]: Cannot resolve reference to bean 'referenceLibertyAdministration' while setting bean property 'monteCarloAdministration'; nested exception is org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name 'referenceLibertyAdministration' defined in file [/Users/ibd/Desktop/computer go/Rango/CGOS/TesujiRefBot.xml]: Instantiation of bean failed; nested exception is java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: tesuji/games/general/MoveIterator Original-Nachricht > Datum: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:30:53 -0200 > Von: Mark Boon > An: computer-go > Betreff: Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE? > You can get everything here: > > http://plug-and-go.dev.java.net > > The MCTS program description is under 'Derived Projects'. > > You don't really need the source-code. You can just get the 'binaries > & scripts' and then copy the files 'TesujiRefBot.jar' and > 'TesujiRefBot.xml' to the directory where you put the binaries and > everything works automagically. It's all plug and go. You may want to > change the number of nodes to read in the XML file to 50K (it's called > minimumNrNodes). > > Of course if you prefer to get the source you are free to do so. > > I do remember making a significant fix a little while ago that I don't > think I submitted yet. But I won't be able to commit that for a few > more days as I'm not at home. But if you implemented RAVE correctly > your bot should do at least as well as this one. > > Hopefully it's any help. > > Mark > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Isaac Deutsch wrote: > > > >> I'm currently tied up but you can get my MCTS implementation, which > >> includes RAVE, and set it up to play 50K playouts. It's only a matter > >> of setting the right number in the configuration file. > >> > >> You can also use it to play through two-gtp, that way you can test an > >> awful lot faster. > >> > >> Mark > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > This would be awesome. Can you send the source code to this eMail > address? > > > > Thanks, ibd > > -- > > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit > allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > > ___ > > computer-go mailing list > > computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > ___ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE?
You can get everything here: http://plug-and-go.dev.java.net The MCTS program description is under 'Derived Projects'. You don't really need the source-code. You can just get the 'binaries & scripts' and then copy the files 'TesujiRefBot.jar' and 'TesujiRefBot.xml' to the directory where you put the binaries and everything works automagically. It's all plug and go. You may want to change the number of nodes to read in the XML file to 50K (it's called minimumNrNodes). Of course if you prefer to get the source you are free to do so. I do remember making a significant fix a little while ago that I don't think I submitted yet. But I won't be able to commit that for a few more days as I'm not at home. But if you implemented RAVE correctly your bot should do at least as well as this one. Hopefully it's any help. Mark On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Isaac Deutsch wrote: > >> I'm currently tied up but you can get my MCTS implementation, which >> includes RAVE, and set it up to play 50K playouts. It's only a matter >> of setting the right number in the configuration file. >> >> You can also use it to play through two-gtp, that way you can test an >> awful lot faster. >> >> Mark > > Hi Mark, > > This would be awesome. Can you send the source code to this eMail address? > > Thanks, ibd > -- > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > ___ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] How to "properly" implement RAVE?
> I'm currently tied up but you can get my MCTS implementation, which > includes RAVE, and set it up to play 50K playouts. It's only a matter > of setting the right number in the configuration file. > > You can also use it to play through two-gtp, that way you can test an > awful lot faster. > > Mark Hi Mark, This would be awesome. Can you send the source code to this eMail address? Thanks, ibd -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
