Re: [Computer-go] DeepMind's Victory over Ke Jie

[uurtamo .]

1) triumphed over a particular boardgame, perhaps.

2) this has been true since the early days of Monte Carlo go bots -- it
tends to result in a higher winning probability when the focus is on...
winning probability. People have tried to make bots that focus on points
instead, but trying to win by more than komi usually results in a weaker
bot. Others can detail their experiments for you and have here at length.

s.


On Jun 7, 2017 1:21 PM, "Cai Gengyang"  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Just a couple of questions :
>
> 1) Is it true that DeepMind's comprehensive victory over Ke Jie means that
> essentially it is proven to be true that AI has definitely triumphed over
> humanity ?
>
> 2) Also, I read that AG's style is "conservative" -- i.e. it almost always
> prefers the higher chance of winning by a small number of points compared
> to the smaller chance of winning by a large number of points ?
>
> Thanks alot
>
> GengYang
>
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Re: [Computer-go] Mailing list working?

[Darren Cook]

> It has achieved /that/ goal, but the further goal of getting AIs to explain 
> and 
> teach is still out there.

Or just to reach the same level, with less computational effort (either
the training stage, or the playing engine), is an interesting challenge,
that is likely to teach us something that can be applied to other
problem domains.

>> So Computer-go achieved its goal and we can close this list?

For me, the big milestone in computer go was reached years ago: it was
when I could no longer beat the go app on my phone. (I think it was the
first Android release of Crazy Stone.)

Darren




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Re: [Computer-go] Mailing list working?

[Arthur Cater]

It has achieved that goal, but the further goal of getting AIs to explain and 
teach is still out there.
Arthur

> On Jun 8, 2017, at 1:09 AM, hamburg.de  wrote:
> 
> So Computer-go achieved its goal and we can close this list?
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 15:33, Erik van der Werf > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, looks like something broke. Here everything that was sent after the 
>> 23rd only arrived today (June 7)... Ah well, it's game-over anyway :-)
>> 
>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:51 AM, J. van der Steen 
>> mailto:j.van.der.st...@gobase.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there something wrong with the mailing list? I didn't see any messages 
>> since the 23rd of May.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> Jan van der Steen
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