Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Fine Art is very, very strong. -Original Message- From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hiroshi Yamashita Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:38 PM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Final is Fine Art vs Zen (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[zen] PW[aq] DT[2017-03-19]RE[B+R]KM[6.5]TM[30]RU[Japanese]PC[UEC, Tokyo] ;B[pd];W[dp];B[qp];W[dd];B[fq];W[cn];B[lq];W[qj];B[qf];W[qm] ;B[pn];W[ro];B[pm];W[ql];B[qo];W[rp];B[rq];W[qn];B[pq];W[kp] ;B[lp];W[ko];B[dr];W[cq];B[ep];W[gp];B[gq];W[eo];B[hp];W[ho] ;B[fo];W[ip];B[hq];W[fn];B[en];W[do];B[cf];W[go];B[fp];W[fm] ;B[fc];W[fd];B[gd];W[fe];B[ec];W[dc];B[ci];W[iq];B[cr];W[dq] ;B[er];W[br];B[jc];W[ck];B[bd];W[bc];B[cd];W[cc];B[de];W[ed] ;B[hd];W[fg];B[cj];W[bk];B[ej];W[dh];B[ch];W[dg];B[bj];W[pc] ;B[oc];W[ob];B[qc];W[pb];B[nc];W[nb];B[mc];W[rc];B[qb];W[qd] ;B[rd];W[qe];B[re];W[pe];B[pf];W[od];B[oe];W[pd];B[rb];W[ne] ;B[of];W[nd];B[ld];W[le];B[mf];W[nf];B[ng];W[mg];B[lg];W[mh] ;B[lf];W[ke];B[jf];W[me];B[je];W[kf];B[kg];W[jg];B[kh];W[kd] ;B[kc];W[jd];B[id];W[ig];B[hf];W[ji];B[ki];W[kj];B[nh];W[mi] ;B[jh];W[ih];B[jj];W[ii];B[lj];W[kk];B[li];W[og];B[nj];W[ni] ;B[oh];W[oi];B[ph];W[lb];B[lc];W[ge];B[he];W[if];B[ie];W[mb] ;B[kb];W[rg];B[rf];W[gb];B[gc];W[cg];B[bg];W[hb];B[ib];W[bf] ;B[af];W[bh];B[be];W[ia];B[la];W[ja];B[ka];W[eb];B[fb];W[fa] ;B[lk];W[ll];B[kl];W[jk];B[ml];W[lm];B[db];W[da];B[ea];W[nm] ;B[mm];W[eb];B[ln];W[cb];B[km];W[lo];B[mo];W[ir];B[fs];W[mp] ;B[mq];W[np];B[nq];W[no];B[hg];W[gh];B[mn];W[oq];B[or];W[qr] ;B[qq];W[op];B[pr];W[nr];B[mr];W[ns];B[kr];W[kq];B[jr];W[ms] ;B[lr];W[nn];B[ol];W[jq];B[os];W[nl];B[nk];W[pl];B[ok];W[om] ;B[po];W[mj];B[mk];W[ah];B[ai];W[sq];B[sr];W[sb];B[sc];W[sd] ;B[sa];W[hs];B[gs];W[ds];B[cs]) (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[fineart] PW[rayn] DT[2017-03-19]RE[B+R]KM[6.5]TM[30]RU[Japanese]PC[UEC, Tokyo] ;B[pd];W[dp];B[qp];W[dd];B[fq];W[oq];B[cn];W[fp];B[gp];W[fo] ;B[dq];W[po];B[qo];W[pn];B[qn];W[pm];B[cp];W[qm];B[pr];W[or] ;B[ep];W[do];B[eo];W[qq];B[rq];W[rr];B[fn];W[qf];B[nc];W[rd] ;B[qr];W[pq];B[rs];W[sr];B[sq];W[cf];B[kc];W[rn];B[ro];W[so] ;B[db];W[ec];B[eb];W[fc];B[cc];W[cd];B[ch];W[di];B[dh];W[eh] ;B[ei];W[ci];B[bi];W[bj];B[bh];W[cj];B[ej];W[dl];B[eg];W[fh] ;B[fg];W[gh];B[df];W[fk];B[gg];W[hh];B[hg];W[ih];B[hc];W[hd] ;B[id];W[he];B[gc];W[fb];B[bd];W[be];B[bb];W[gd];B[ie];W[hf] ;B[ig];W[if];B[jg];W[jf];B[jh];W[lc];B[kd];W[lf];B[ii];W[ld] ;B[ke];W[kf];B[le];W[gj];B[gi];W[ad];B[bc];W[me];B[md];W[lb] ;B[kb];W[oc];B[od];W[ne];B[nd];W[dn];B[co];W[cm];B[en];W[la] ;B[mb];W[of];B[dm];W[ka];B[ib];W[ia];B[ha];W[gb];B[ja];W[bl] ;B[hi];W[bn];B[dk];W[cl];B[am];W[el];B[hk];W[hj];B[ij];W[hl] ;B[il];W[hm];B[fm];W[gl];B[im];W[hn];B[io];W[in];B[jn];W[jo] ;B[ip];W[go];B[ko];W[gq];B[hp];W[bo];B[bp];W[jm];B[kn];W[kq] ;B[jq];W[jr];B[ir];W[kp];B[jp];W[km];B[lm];W[ll];B[kl]) Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:32 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > semi final is > > Fine art vs Rayn > AQ vs Zen > > Fine art beated DolBaram > Rayn beated Aya > AQ beated CrazyStone > Zen beated CGI > > Hiroshi Yamashita > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
FineArt won. (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[zen] PW[fineart] DT[2017-03-19]RE[W+R]KM[6.5]TM[30]RU[Japanese]PC[UEC, Tokyo] ;B[qd];W[dc];B[pq];W[dp];B[oc];W[po];B[qo];W[qn];B[qp];W[pm] ;B[pj];W[oq];B[pp];W[op];B[oo];W[pn];B[no];W[or];B[pr];W[lq] ;B[lo];W[rn];B[kq];W[kr];B[mr];W[mq];B[lr];W[kp];B[jq];W[lp] ;B[jr];W[jp];B[hq];W[hp];B[gp];W[ho];B[fq];W[ml];B[fn];W[jl] ;B[cn];W[dn];B[dm];W[co];B[bn];W[bo];B[en];W[do];B[ce];W[ed] ;B[mk];W[ll];B[ol];W[om];B[nl];W[nm];B[ic];W[ph];B[og];W[pg] ;B[oh];W[pe];B[ne];W[qe];B[rd];W[qj];B[qk];W[qi];B[pi];W[rk] ;B[gc];W[df];B[cg];W[eh];B[di];W[cm];B[cl];W[bm];B[bl];W[an] ;B[jf];W[dl];B[dk];W[em];B[bd];W[bc];B[cc];W[cb];B[cd];W[fc] ;B[gb];W[gd];B[hd];W[ge];B[hf];W[rq];B[ps];W[pk];B[eb];W[db] ;B[bb];W[ba];B[ab];W[gh];B[fi];W[dg];B[fh];W[fg];B[dh];W[ig] ;B[if];W[gg];B[ii];W[gi];B[mi];W[ei];B[dj];W[ki];B[kj];W[ji] ;B[jj];W[ih];B[dr];W[kg];B[lf];W[nj];B[ni];W[re];B[fj];W[sd] ;B[rc];W[od];B[pd];W[oe];B[nd];W[nc];B[ob];W[rb];B[sc];W[nf] ;B[mf];W[qb];B[pc];W[nb];B[na];W[lc];B[of];W[lb];B[pf];W[rg] ;B[se];W[rf];B[ma];W[sb];B[oa];W[la];B[ld];W[kd];B[kc];W[jc] ;B[ke];W[jd];B[jb];W[kb];B[ja];W[id];B[hc];W[md];B[me];W[mb] ;B[mc];W[ib];B[ia];W[md];B[rh];W[pb];B[pa];W[qh];B[mc];W[qa] ;B[sa];W[md];B[qg];W[le];B[qf];W[ri];B[ld];W[cf];B[bf];W[le] ;B[sh];W[si];B[ld];W[he];B[ie];W[le]) - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Final is Fine Art vs Zen ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Final is Fine Art vs Zen (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[zen] PW[aq] DT[2017-03-19]RE[B+R]KM[6.5]TM[30]RU[Japanese]PC[UEC, Tokyo] ;B[pd];W[dp];B[qp];W[dd];B[fq];W[cn];B[lq];W[qj];B[qf];W[qm] ;B[pn];W[ro];B[pm];W[ql];B[qo];W[rp];B[rq];W[qn];B[pq];W[kp] ;B[lp];W[ko];B[dr];W[cq];B[ep];W[gp];B[gq];W[eo];B[hp];W[ho] ;B[fo];W[ip];B[hq];W[fn];B[en];W[do];B[cf];W[go];B[fp];W[fm] ;B[fc];W[fd];B[gd];W[fe];B[ec];W[dc];B[ci];W[iq];B[cr];W[dq] ;B[er];W[br];B[jc];W[ck];B[bd];W[bc];B[cd];W[cc];B[de];W[ed] ;B[hd];W[fg];B[cj];W[bk];B[ej];W[dh];B[ch];W[dg];B[bj];W[pc] ;B[oc];W[ob];B[qc];W[pb];B[nc];W[nb];B[mc];W[rc];B[qb];W[qd] ;B[rd];W[qe];B[re];W[pe];B[pf];W[od];B[oe];W[pd];B[rb];W[ne] ;B[of];W[nd];B[ld];W[le];B[mf];W[nf];B[ng];W[mg];B[lg];W[mh] ;B[lf];W[ke];B[jf];W[me];B[je];W[kf];B[kg];W[jg];B[kh];W[kd] ;B[kc];W[jd];B[id];W[ig];B[hf];W[ji];B[ki];W[kj];B[nh];W[mi] ;B[jh];W[ih];B[jj];W[ii];B[lj];W[kk];B[li];W[og];B[nj];W[ni] ;B[oh];W[oi];B[ph];W[lb];B[lc];W[ge];B[he];W[if];B[ie];W[mb] ;B[kb];W[rg];B[rf];W[gb];B[gc];W[cg];B[bg];W[hb];B[ib];W[bf] ;B[af];W[bh];B[be];W[ia];B[la];W[ja];B[ka];W[eb];B[fb];W[fa] ;B[lk];W[ll];B[kl];W[jk];B[ml];W[lm];B[db];W[da];B[ea];W[nm] ;B[mm];W[eb];B[ln];W[cb];B[km];W[lo];B[mo];W[ir];B[fs];W[mp] ;B[mq];W[np];B[nq];W[no];B[hg];W[gh];B[mn];W[oq];B[or];W[qr] ;B[qq];W[op];B[pr];W[nr];B[mr];W[ns];B[kr];W[kq];B[jr];W[ms] ;B[lr];W[nn];B[ol];W[jq];B[os];W[nl];B[nk];W[pl];B[ok];W[om] ;B[po];W[mj];B[mk];W[ah];B[ai];W[sq];B[sr];W[sb];B[sc];W[sd] ;B[sa];W[hs];B[gs];W[ds];B[cs]) (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[fineart] PW[rayn] DT[2017-03-19]RE[B+R]KM[6.5]TM[30]RU[Japanese]PC[UEC, Tokyo] ;B[pd];W[dp];B[qp];W[dd];B[fq];W[oq];B[cn];W[fp];B[gp];W[fo] ;B[dq];W[po];B[qo];W[pn];B[qn];W[pm];B[cp];W[qm];B[pr];W[or] ;B[ep];W[do];B[eo];W[qq];B[rq];W[rr];B[fn];W[qf];B[nc];W[rd] ;B[qr];W[pq];B[rs];W[sr];B[sq];W[cf];B[kc];W[rn];B[ro];W[so] ;B[db];W[ec];B[eb];W[fc];B[cc];W[cd];B[ch];W[di];B[dh];W[eh] ;B[ei];W[ci];B[bi];W[bj];B[bh];W[cj];B[ej];W[dl];B[eg];W[fh] ;B[fg];W[gh];B[df];W[fk];B[gg];W[hh];B[hg];W[ih];B[hc];W[hd] ;B[id];W[he];B[gc];W[fb];B[bd];W[be];B[bb];W[gd];B[ie];W[hf] ;B[ig];W[if];B[jg];W[jf];B[jh];W[lc];B[kd];W[lf];B[ii];W[ld] ;B[ke];W[kf];B[le];W[gj];B[gi];W[ad];B[bc];W[me];B[md];W[lb] ;B[kb];W[oc];B[od];W[ne];B[nd];W[dn];B[co];W[cm];B[en];W[la] ;B[mb];W[of];B[dm];W[ka];B[ib];W[ia];B[ha];W[gb];B[ja];W[bl] ;B[hi];W[bn];B[dk];W[cl];B[am];W[el];B[hk];W[hj];B[ij];W[hl] ;B[il];W[hm];B[fm];W[gl];B[im];W[hn];B[io];W[in];B[jn];W[jo] ;B[ip];W[go];B[ko];W[gq];B[hp];W[bo];B[bp];W[jm];B[kn];W[kq] ;B[jq];W[jr];B[ir];W[kp];B[jp];W[km];B[lm];W[ll];B[kl]) Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:32 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day semi final is Fine art vs Rayn AQ vs Zen Fine art beated DolBaram Rayn beated Aya AQ beated CrazyStone Zen beated CGI Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
semi final is Fine art vs Rayn AQ vs Zen Fine art beated DolBaram Rayn beated Aya AQ beated CrazyStone Zen beated CGI Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
I have used TensorFlow to train a CNN that predicts the next move, with a similar architecture to what others have used (1 layers of 5x5 convolutions followed by 10 more layers of 3x3 convolutions, with 192 hidden units per layer and ReLU activation functions) but with much simpler inputs. I found the Python parts worked quite well, and that's how I did the training, using a GTX 980 GPU. But getting the trained network to work from C++ was a pain, and I ended up rolling out my own code to evaluate it using the CPU(s). I also tried to train the network to predict the final ownership for each point on the board (in the hopes that it would learn about life and death), but this didn't work too well, presumably because I didn't have good enough data to train it with. Álvaro. On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Darren Cook wrote: > Thanks for the very interesting replies, David, and Remi. > > No-one is using TensorFlow, then? Any reason not to? (I'm just curious > because there looks to be a good Udacity DNN course > (https://www.udacity.com/course/deep-learning--ud730), which I was > considering, but it is using TensorFlow.) > > > Remi wrote: > > programming back-propagation efficiently on the GPU. We did get a GPU > > version working, but it took a lot of time to program it, and was not > > so efficient. So the current DCNN of Crazy Stone is 100% trained on > > the CPU, and 100% running on the CPU. My CPU code is efficient, > > though. It is considerably faster than Caffe. My impression is that > > Caffe is inefficient because it uses the GEMM approach, which may be > > good for high-resolution pictures, but is not for small 19x19 > > boards. > > I did a bit of study on what GEMM is, and found this article and the 2nd > comment on it quite interesting: > > > http://petewarden.com/2015/04/20/why-gemm-is-at-the-heart-of-deep-learning/ > > The comment, by Scott Gray, mentioned: > > So instead of thinking of convolution as a problem of one large gemm > operation, it’s actually much more efficient as many small gemms. To > compute a large gemm on a GPU you need to break it up into many small > tiles anyway. So rather than waste time duplicating your data into a > large matrix, you can just start doing small gemms right away directly > on the data. Let the L2 cache do the duplication for you. > > > He doesn't quantify large vs. small; though I doubt anyone is doing > image recognition on 19x19 pixel images :-) > > Darren > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Thanks for the very interesting replies, David, and Remi. No-one is using TensorFlow, then? Any reason not to? (I'm just curious because there looks to be a good Udacity DNN course (https://www.udacity.com/course/deep-learning--ud730), which I was considering, but it is using TensorFlow.) Remi wrote: > programming back-propagation efficiently on the GPU. We did get a GPU > version working, but it took a lot of time to program it, and was not > so efficient. So the current DCNN of Crazy Stone is 100% trained on > the CPU, and 100% running on the CPU. My CPU code is efficient, > though. It is considerably faster than Caffe. My impression is that > Caffe is inefficient because it uses the GEMM approach, which may be > good for high-resolution pictures, but is not for small 19x19 > boards. I did a bit of study on what GEMM is, and found this article and the 2nd comment on it quite interesting: http://petewarden.com/2015/04/20/why-gemm-is-at-the-heart-of-deep-learning/ The comment, by Scott Gray, mentioned: So instead of thinking of convolution as a problem of one large gemm operation, it’s actually much more efficient as many small gemms. To compute a large gemm on a GPU you need to break it up into many small tiles anyway. So rather than waste time duplicating your data into a large matrix, you can just start doing small gemms right away directly on the data. Let the L2 cache do the duplication for you. He doesn't quantify large vs. small; though I doubt anyone is doing image recognition on 19x19 pixel images :-) Darren ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Hi, This UEC Cup was really very exciting. I had started to code my own home-made deep learning library in November, after finishing my Japanese mahjong engine. I was working quietly on it when the Alphago paper was published. Then I felt that I had to urgently get something to work before the UEC Cup. I hired Fabien Letouzey in February. We worked hard for 6 weeks, and improved Crazy Stone tremendously. I chose to build my own deep-learning library. That was a very interesting experience. I underestimated the complexity of programming back-propagation efficiently on the GPU. We did get a GPU version working, but it took a lot of time to program it, and was not so efficient. So the current DCNN of Crazy Stone is 100% trained on the CPU, and 100% running on the CPU. My CPU code is efficient, though. It is considerably faster than Caffe. My impression is that Caffe is inefficient because it uses the GEMM approach, which may be good for high-resolution pictures, but is not for small 19x19 boards. The neural network that I used in the UEC Cup started to learn just 10 days before the tournament, on a 24-core Xeon. I finished the details of incorporating the neural network into MCTS two days before the tournament. I was happily surprised to find that the new version wins 88% of its games against the previous version at one minute / game. Then I connected it to KGS, and it established a strong 7d rank. It was really nice to meet all these new programmers in the UEC Cup. I am sure next year will be very exciting, too. I expect that playing strength will have improved tremendously in one year. Rémi - Mail original - De: "David Fotland" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 15:09:11 Objet: Re: [Computer-go] *SPAM* Re: UEC cup 2nd day There was one program (Shrike) that had a dnn without search. It didn’t finish in the top 8. Zen and Crazystone have custom DNN implementations. Dark Forest uses Torch. The rest used Caffe. Remi's implementation is unusual and interesting. I'll let him share it if he wants to. David > -Original Message- > From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of > Darren Cook > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:19 AM > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: *****SPAM* Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > David Fotland wrote: > > There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not > > qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many > > Faces has very basic DNN support, but it s turned off because it isn t > > making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many Faces don t > > have DNN in the final 8. Dolburam won in Beijing, but the DNN > > programs are stronger and it didn t make the final 4. > > Are all the DNN programs (or, at least, all 6 in the top 8) also using MCTS? > (Re-phrased: is there any currently strong program not using MCTS?) > > Darren > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
David Fotland wrote: > There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not > qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many > Faces has very basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it > isn’t making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many Faces > don’t have DNN in the final 8. Dolburam won in Beijing, but the DNN > programs are stronger and it didn’t make the final 4. Are all the DNN programs (or, at least, all 6 in the top 8) also using MCTS? (Re-phrased: is there any currently strong program not using MCTS?) Darren ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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sgf files have been made available on the 2nd day Finals games: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/results_2ndday/final.zip Tokumoto On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Hideki Kato wrote: > Dear Ingo, > > >Hi Hiroshi, > > > >thanks for the many updates. > > > >On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will > >play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. > > Yes, Koichi Kobayashi 9p . > #Nick's h-c page: http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/index.html > > >Will those games be transmitted on KGS? > > I guess it's very difficult because all broadcast rights must > exclusively be owned by the sponsor, "Igo Shogi Channel." > > >Has it been decided alreay which handicap? > > Basically 3 stones. If Kobayashi 9p lost the first game (vs > Darkforest), the second game (vs Zen) will be played with 2 > stones. #Not announced yet. > > Hideki > > >Thanks in advance, Ingo. > > > > > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr > >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" > >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org > >> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > >> > >> Zen won against darkforest > >> > >> 1st Zen > >> 2nd darkforest > >> 3rd CrazyStone > >> 4th Aya > >> > >> Hiroshi Yamashita > >> > >> ___ > >> Computer-go mailing list > >> Computer-go@computer-go.org > >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >___ > >Computer-go mailing list > >Computer-go@computer-go.org > >http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > -- > Hideki Kato <mailto:hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp> > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day (Hiroshi Yamashita)
I wonder who can correct the typos on the webpages...? because this page say Zen wonhttp://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result2.html"Final L darkforest vs Zen W" and this page says darkforest won http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/results_2ndday/darkforest-vs-zen.sgf.html"darkforest (BLACK) v.s. Zen (WHITE) Result: B+R" but the sgf says Zen won http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/results_2ndday/darkforest-vs-zen.sgf "RE[W+AJ]GC[White wins by operators' agreement.] PW[zen]PB[darkforest]" its a little confusing Message: 3 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:41:23 +0900 From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Zen won against darkforest 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Dear Ingo, >Hi Hiroshi, > >thanks for the many updates. > >On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will >play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. Yes, Koichi Kobayashi 9p. #Nick's h-c page: http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/index.html >Will those games be transmitted on KGS? I guess it's very difficult because all broadcast rights must exclusively be owned by the sponsor, "Igo Shogi Channel." >Has it been decided alreay which handicap? Basically 3 stones. If Kobayashi 9p lost the first game (vs Darkforest), the second game (vs Zen) will be played with 2 stones. #Not announced yet. Hideki >Thanks in advance, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day >> >> Zen won against darkforest >> >> 1st Zen >> 2nd darkforest >> 3rd CrazyStone >> 4th Aya >> >> Hiroshi Yamashita >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >___ >Computer-go mailing list >Computer-go@computer-go.org >http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Hideki Kato <mailto:hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp> ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Attached is my _personal_ copy of the final game. All official game records will be available soon, though. #After move 295, the operator resigned. #Official results of the second day: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result2.html Hideki Pawe Morawiecki: : >Hi, > >> >> Final result >> 1st Zen >> 2nd darkforest >> 3rd CrazyStone >> 4th Aya >> >> >Are there any games available? (SGFs)? > >Regards, >Pawel > > > >> >> - Original Message - From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de >> > >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day >> >> >> >> Hi Hiroshi, >>> >>> thanks for the many updates. >>> >>> On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will >>> play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. >>> >>> Will those games be transmitted on KGS? >>> Has it been decided alreay which handicap? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, Ingo. >>> >>> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr >>>> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" >>>> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day >>>> >>>> Zen won against darkforest >>>> >>>> 1st Zen >>>> 2nd darkforest >>>> 3rd CrazyStone >>>> 4th Aya >>>> >>>> Hiroshi Yamashita >>>> >>>> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > inline file >___ >Computer-go mailing list >Computer-go@computer-go.org >http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Hideki Kato <mailto:hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp> zen-darkforest.sgf Description: x-go-sgf ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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This page http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/result2.html says Kifu on 'some' Finals games will be uploaded soon. Tokumoto On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:23 PM, David Fotland wrote: > I have sgf’s of the Many Faces’ games, but I finished 8th. I don’t have > the top games. > > > > *From:* Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] *On > Behalf Of *Pawel Morawiecki > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM > *To:* computer-go@computer-go.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > > > Hi, > > > Final result > 1st Zen > 2nd darkforest > 3rd CrazyStone > 4th Aya > > > > Are there any games available? (SGFs)? > > > > Regards, > > Paweł > > > > > > > - Original Message ----- From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de > > > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > > > Hi Hiroshi, > > thanks for the many updates. > > On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will > play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. > > Will those games be transmitted on KGS? > Has it been decided alreay which handicap? > > Thanks in advance, Ingo. > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr > Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > Zen won against darkforest > > 1st Zen > 2nd darkforest > 3rd CrazyStone > 4th Aya > > Hiroshi Yamashita > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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I have sgf’s of the Many Faces’ games, but I finished 8th. I don’t have the top games. From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Pawel Morawiecki Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Hi, Final result 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Are there any games available? (SGFs)? Regards, Paweł - Original Message - From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Hi Hiroshi, thanks for the many updates. On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. Will those games be transmitted on KGS? Has it been decided alreay which handicap? Thanks in advance, Ingo. Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" An: computer-go@computer-go.org Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Zen won against darkforest 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many Faces has very basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it isn’t making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many Faces don’t have DNN in the final 8. Dolburam won in Beijing, but the DNN programs are stronger and it didn’t make the final 4. David > -Original Message- > From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On > Behalf Of Hiroshi Yamashita > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:35 PM > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > darkforest won against CGI. > CrazyStone won against DolBalam. > Zen won against Ray. > Aya won against MFG. > > Semi final is > CrazyStone vs Zen > darkforest vs Aya > > Thanks, > Hiroshi Yamashita > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Hi, > > Final result > 1st Zen > 2nd darkforest > 3rd CrazyStone > 4th Aya > > Are there any games available? (SGFs)? Regards, Paweł > > - Original Message - From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de > > > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > > > Hi Hiroshi, >> >> thanks for the many updates. >> >> On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will >> play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. >> >> Will those games be transmitted on KGS? >> Has it been decided alreay which handicap? >> >> Thanks in advance, Ingo. >> >> >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr >>> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" >>> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >>> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day >>> >>> Zen won against darkforest >>> >>> 1st Zen >>> 2nd darkforest >>> 3rd CrazyStone >>> 4th Aya >>> >>> Hiroshi Yamashita >>> >>> > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Hi Ingo, Will those games be transmitted on KGS? Has it been decided alreay which handicap? I'm afraid there will be no plan to be transmitted on KGS. Handicap is not decided yet, maybe 3 or 4. Winner, Zen is now playing with strong amatuer with no handicap game. Final result 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya 5th DolBaram 6th CGI 7th Ray 8th MFG 9th Gonanza 10th MC_ark 11th GoTaiji 12th Holmes 13th storm 14th shrike 15th nlp 16th Katsunari DolBaram won against CGI. Ray won against MFG. Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Hi Hiroshi, thanks for the many updates. On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. Will those games be transmitted on KGS? Has it been decided alreay which handicap? Thanks in advance, Ingo. Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" An: computer-go@computer-go.org Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Zen won against darkforest 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Hi Hiroshi, thanks for the many updates. On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will play exhibition matches against a pro player on Wednesday. Will those games be transmitted on KGS? Has it been decided alreay which handicap? Thanks in advance, Ingo. > Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr > Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > Zen won against darkforest > > 1st Zen > 2nd darkforest > 3rd CrazyStone > 4th Aya > > Hiroshi Yamashita > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Zen won against darkforest 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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Zen won against CrazyStone. darkforest won against Aya. Final is Zen - darkforest Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:34 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day darkforest won against CGI. CrazyStone won against DolBalam. Zen won against Ray. Aya won against MFG. Semi final is CrazyStone vs Zen darkforest vs Aya Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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darkforest won against CGI. CrazyStone won against DolBalam. Zen won against Ray. Aya won against MFG. Semi final is CrazyStone vs Zen darkforest vs Aya Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
