Re: [Computer-go] modus operandi
When and how is this Goggernaut starting? In order for Petr Baudis' students in Prague and the UEC gang in Tokyo to be involved, I'd think communications issue needs to be high on the priorities. And that is something I am willing to curtail my rose smelling activities and help. Do any of you Computer Science MSc/PhD candidates have friends in Social Sciences who might be interested and contribute in coming up with modus operandi guidelines for the best probability of success in the world today? This could be a joint Social Science / Computer Science project. I wish I knew many Deans and department heads of universities in the world to discuss this idea. But I'm just an old dog who plans on participating in his first CGF Open tomorrow. On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 8:00 AM, djhbrown . wrote: > "To have a joint effort there would have to be a strong financial force to > pull everyone into the same time table, licensing model, and so on". > > Money does make the world go around. Anthropologists and sociologists and > investigative journalists have revealed that throughout the history of > mankind, the profit motive of unscrupulous goldfingers has exacerbated the > scale of conflicts, turning what had evolved within the human genome as > mate-competition aggression into broadscale rabid genocidal megalomania. > However, there is another side to the human psyche's motivation apparatus, > namely that of socialisation. > > Rome wasn't built in a day, and although it was, like the pyramids, > largely built with slave and/or indentured labour, it was built by more > than one egocentric old man determined to prove to himself that he is > better than his Dad, or better than he thought his Dad thought he was. > > There are examples of non-profit collaborations such as Gnu, Creative > Commons, and the Open CourseWare initiative. Although the latter is mainly > a marketing channel, it also distributes information freely; one of very > few examples of the trickle-down effect actually happening. > > So no, there doesn't have to be a strong financial force, merely a strong > sociality one, or at least a recognition that many hands make light work > and a willingness the share the glory. > > MCTS seems to be very good at small-scale fighting, whereas CNN might be > better-suited to fuseki. I'm sure it hasn't escaped your notice that 19x19 > is 4 times 9x9, but borders of teacups overlap, so a flitting-around fovea > is needed rather than a stationary one, and that requires a CEO to tell it > where to flit. Or, rather, to tell them where to flit, if there were an > internetworked army of foveas, each doing his own local reconnaisance and > reporting back to HQ. > > That CEO, like all CEOs, can make the big decisions, but having a head no > smarter than a toilet-cleaner's or rice-paddy plougher's, it can only do so > much, so it needs to be supported by a cabinet of consultants, each of whom > has its own set of information filters and labour force, to offer the CEO a > small set (7 plus or minus 2) of simple choices. In the real world, the > Sir Humphreys always ensure that their Minister makes the choice they want > him to make, but in the mind of a machine, rational objective globally > beneficial decisions are theoretically possible. > > This message is only for those who haven't lost the idealism of youth, as > old dogs don't like new tricks and more often than not would would rather > shoot the messenger than contemplate the message. It might happen in > academia, if ITers ever learn to follow the example of their medical > colleagues, whose lists of authors are usually longer than the substantive > content of their papers. > > How could it happen? Don't ask me - i'm a Steppenwolf. Besides, i am far > too busy with much more important things like smelling roses, so i don't > have the time. > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] modus operandi
Maybe someone in need of ideas for MSc/PhDs, or a taste for social activism will pick up that idea. Yes, you, if you're reading this, you can become the next Stallman. Just imagine the amount of resources (read: money) that would pour in if people were convinced of a Russia+China vs The World war by proxy competition on computer Go. On 03/10/2015 00:00, djhbrown . wrote: "To have a joint effort there would have to be a strong financial force to pull everyone into the same time table, licensing model, and so on". Money does make the world go around. Anthropologists and sociologists and investigative journalists have revealed that throughout the history of mankind, the profit motive of unscrupulous goldfingers has exacerbated the scale of conflicts, turning what had evolved within the human genome as mate-competition aggression into broadscale rabid genocidal megalomania. However, there is another side to the human psyche's motivation apparatus, namely that of socialisation. Rome wasn't built in a day, and although it was, like the pyramids, largely built with slave and/or indentured labour, it was built by more than one egocentric old man determined to prove to himself that he is better than his Dad, or better than he thought his Dad thought he was. There are examples of non-profit collaborations such as Gnu, Creative Commons, and the Open CourseWare initiative. Although the latter is mainly a marketing channel, it also distributes information freely; one of very few examples of the trickle-down effect actually happening. So no, there doesn't have to be a strong financial force, merely a strong sociality one, or at least a recognition that many hands make light work and a willingness the share the glory. MCTS seems to be very good at small-scale fighting, whereas CNN might be better-suited to fuseki. I'm sure it hasn't escaped your notice that 19x19 is 4 times 9x9, but borders of teacups overlap, so a flitting-around fovea is needed rather than a stationary one, and that requires a CEO to tell it where to flit. Or, rather, to tell them where to flit, if there were an internetworked army of foveas, each doing his own local reconnaisance and reporting back to HQ. That CEO, like all CEOs, can make the big decisions, but having a head no smarter than a toilet-cleaner's or rice-paddy plougher's, it can only do so much, so it needs to be supported by a cabinet of consultants, each of whom has its own set of information filters and labour force, to offer the CEO a small set (7 plus or minus 2) of simple choices. In the real world, the Sir Humphreys always ensure that their Minister makes the choice they want him to make, but in the mind of a machine, rational objective globally beneficial decisions are theoretically possible. This message is only for those who haven't lost the idealism of youth, as old dogs don't like new tricks and more often than not would would rather shoot the messenger than contemplate the message. It might happen in academia, if ITers ever learn to follow the example of their medical colleagues, whose lists of authors are usually longer than the substantive content of their papers. How could it happen? Don't ask me - i'm a Steppenwolf. Besides, i am far too busy with much more important things like smelling roses, so i don't have the time. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] modus operandi
"To have a joint effort there would have to be a strong financial force to pull everyone into the same time table, licensing model, and so on". Money does make the world go around. Anthropologists and sociologists and investigative journalists have revealed that throughout the history of mankind, the profit motive of unscrupulous goldfingers has exacerbated the scale of conflicts, turning what had evolved within the human genome as mate-competition aggression into broadscale rabid genocidal megalomania. However, there is another side to the human psyche's motivation apparatus, namely that of socialisation. Rome wasn't built in a day, and although it was, like the pyramids, largely built with slave and/or indentured labour, it was built by more than one egocentric old man determined to prove to himself that he is better than his Dad, or better than he thought his Dad thought he was. There are examples of non-profit collaborations such as Gnu, Creative Commons, and the Open CourseWare initiative. Although the latter is mainly a marketing channel, it also distributes information freely; one of very few examples of the trickle-down effect actually happening. So no, there doesn't have to be a strong financial force, merely a strong sociality one, or at least a recognition that many hands make light work and a willingness the share the glory. MCTS seems to be very good at small-scale fighting, whereas CNN might be better-suited to fuseki. I'm sure it hasn't escaped your notice that 19x19 is 4 times 9x9, but borders of teacups overlap, so a flitting-around fovea is needed rather than a stationary one, and that requires a CEO to tell it where to flit. Or, rather, to tell them where to flit, if there were an internetworked army of foveas, each doing his own local reconnaisance and reporting back to HQ. That CEO, like all CEOs, can make the big decisions, but having a head no smarter than a toilet-cleaner's or rice-paddy plougher's, it can only do so much, so it needs to be supported by a cabinet of consultants, each of whom has its own set of information filters and labour force, to offer the CEO a small set (7 plus or minus 2) of simple choices. In the real world, the Sir Humphreys always ensure that their Minister makes the choice they want him to make, but in the mind of a machine, rational objective globally beneficial decisions are theoretically possible. This message is only for those who haven't lost the idealism of youth, as old dogs don't like new tricks and more often than not would would rather shoot the messenger than contemplate the message. It might happen in academia, if ITers ever learn to follow the example of their medical colleagues, whose lists of authors are usually longer than the substantive content of their papers. How could it happen? Don't ask me - i'm a Steppenwolf. Besides, i am far too busy with much more important things like smelling roses, so i don't have the time. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
