Re: [computer-go] Re: Analysis mode for human use
But odd move numbers always mean black to move. That becomes second nature very quickly and I personally prefer the less verbose syntax. - Don On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Darren Cook dar...@dcook.org wrote: translated to Ishi-go B 1 Q4 W 2 R16 B 3 C4 W 4 F3 ... *** modified Ishi-go 1. q4 2. r16 3. c4 4. f3 ... from the west - my modified Ishi-go-format should be even better. (The repetitive B W are a bit annoying in Ishi-go, and small letters are better to read than capital ones.) I find the B/W very useful: when playing out a long list of moves it is very easy to lose track where I am. Most moves are equally likely for both sides. Darren -- Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer http://dcook.org/mlsn/ (English-Japanese-German-Chinese-Arabic open source dictionary/semantic network) http://dcook.org/work/ (About me and my work) http://dcook.org/blogs.html (My blogs and articles) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Analysis mode for human use
Don Dailey wrote: But odd move numbers always mean black to move. That becomes second nature very quickly and I personally prefer the less verbose syntax. Darren Cook wrote: I find the B/W very useful: when playing out a long list of moves it is very easy to lose track where I am. Most moves are equally likely for both sides. You may have a look at the notation on the gameserver http://www.littlegolem.net . There no B and W are shown, but the moves themselves are in black and white, on a grey background. Example http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/game/game.jsp?gid=933716 Ingo. -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Analysis mode for human use
translated to Ishi-go B 1 Q4 W 2 R16 B 3 C4 W 4 F3 ... *** modified Ishi-go 1. q4 2. r16 3. c4 4. f3 ... from the west - my modified Ishi-go-format should be even better. (The repetitive B W are a bit annoying in Ishi-go, and small letters are better to read than capital ones.) I find the B/W very useful: when playing out a long list of moves it is very easy to lose track where I am. Most moves are equally likely for both sides. Darren -- Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer http://dcook.org/mlsn/ (English-Japanese-German-Chinese-Arabic open source dictionary/semantic network) http://dcook.org/work/ (About me and my work) http://dcook.org/blogs.html (My blogs and articles) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Analysis mode for human use
First of all sorry for forgetting the title in the previous posting. As David Fotland pointed out to me, sgf is of course not suited for humans to read. See the following example, for the first ten moves of a game. copied from sgf B[pp]; W[qd]; B[cp]; W[fq]; B[dq]; W[jp]; B[mq]; W[kq]; B[hp]; W[hq]; ** translated to Ishi-go B 1 Q4 W 2 R16 B 3 C4 W 4 F3 B 5 D3 W 6 K4 B 7 N3 W 8 L3 B 9 H4 W 10 H3 *** modified Ishi-go 1. q4 2. r16 3. c4 4. f3 5. d3 6. k4 7. n3 8. l3 9. h4 10. h3 * Ishi-go is much better to read, but - at least for people from the west - my modified Ishi-go-format should be even better. (The repetitive B W are a bit annoying in Ishi-go, and small letters are better to read than capital ones.) To give you an impression about the size of the market in Germany. Let's assume that in principle a go program with nice analysis mode (and current strength) might be interesting for human players in the range 2k - 3d. The German rating list shows the following ranks: Rank-No rating 80 2301 143 2200 216 2100 342 2000 479 1900 611 1800 1800-1900 is about 2k 1900-2000 1k 2000-2100 1d 2100-2200 2d 2200-2300 3d These German ratings do not fit exactly with KGS ratings, but there is rather strong correlation. So, there should be a market of several hundred potential customers, alone in Germany, for a program with nice analysis mode. Ingo. -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
