Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
Thanks all for the input. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Don Dailey dailey@gmail.com wrote: From: Don Dailey dailey@gmail.com Subject: Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement? To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:39 AM On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Carter Cheng carter_ch...@yahoo.com wrote: Where can I find information on these bridging protocols or are libraries provided for this (to the 9x9 19x19 servers)? The CGOS protocol is pretty easy to decode from the cgos client script which is written in TCL. Even if you don't know tcl you can learn the protocol easily from the script. However, there is no need to know the CGOS protocol if your engine speaks GTP. GTP is designed to be a universal protocol for GO engines - if your engine knows GTP it should be able to use all kinds of tool including GOGUI, a nice user interface for GO programs. The cgos client program speaks to the server in it's language and to your program using GTP. See how simple life can be? The CGOS protocol is about to change just slightly as I will be soon upgrading the server, but an updated client will be provided so that will require no change on your part. (And the old CGOS prototol will still work but with some restrictions.) - Don --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de wrote: From: Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de Subject: Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement? To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:44 AM On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:24 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: Carter Cheng wrote: Thanks everyone for the help thus far. I have been looking at the GTP protocol page and I am curious which version of the protocol I should try to implement if I want to communicate with the servers. Should I be looking at the GTP 2.0 draft version? You should implement (part of) the draft. It's widely used nowadays. I'm not sure if there's any server out there that uses the old version. Just to be clear on this point: GTP is not a server protocol, but a protocol between a controller and an engine. If you want the engine to connect to a server, there is still a bridge needed, which communicates with the engine through GTP and with the server through whatever protocol the server is speaking. Hellwig ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
Carter Cheng wrote: Thanks everyone for the help thus far. I have been looking at the GTP protocol page and I am curious which version of the protocol I should try to implement if I want to communicate with the servers. Should I be looking at the GTP 2.0 draft version? You should implement (part of) the draft. It's widely used nowadays. I'm not sure if there's any server out there that uses the old version. Urban ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:24 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: Carter Cheng wrote: Thanks everyone for the help thus far. I have been looking at the GTP protocol page and I am curious which version of the protocol I should try to implement if I want to communicate with the servers. Should I be looking at the GTP 2.0 draft version? You should implement (part of) the draft. It's widely used nowadays. I'm not sure if there's any server out there that uses the old version. Just to be clear on this point: GTP is not a server protocol, but a protocol between a controller and an engine. If you want the engine to connect to a server, there is still a bridge needed, which communicates with the engine through GTP and with the server through whatever protocol the server is speaking. Hellwig ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
Where can I find information on these bridging protocols or are libraries provided for this (to the 9x9 19x19 servers)? --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de wrote: From: Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de Subject: Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement? To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:44 AM On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:24 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: Carter Cheng wrote: Thanks everyone for the help thus far. I have been looking at the GTP protocol page and I am curious which version of the protocol I should try to implement if I want to communicate with the servers. Should I be looking at the GTP 2.0 draft version? You should implement (part of) the draft. It's widely used nowadays. I'm not sure if there's any server out there that uses the old version. Just to be clear on this point: GTP is not a server protocol, but a protocol between a controller and an engine. If you want the engine to connect to a server, there is still a bridge needed, which communicates with the engine through GTP and with the server through whatever protocol the server is speaking. Hellwig ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
For KGS, there is kgsgtp.jar, CGOS provides scripts that connect your engine to the server, too. Am 15.07.2009 um 15:41 schrieb Carter Cheng: Where can I find information on these bridging protocols or are libraries provided for this (to the 9x9 19x19 servers)? --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh- giessen.de wrote: ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Carter Cheng carter_ch...@yahoo.comwrote: Where can I find information on these bridging protocols or are libraries provided for this (to the 9x9 19x19 servers)? The CGOS protocol is pretty easy to decode from the cgos client script which is written in TCL. Even if you don't know tcl you can learn the protocol easily from the script. However, there is no need to know the CGOS protocol if your engine speaks GTP. GTP is designed to be a universal protocol for GO engines - if your engine knows GTP it should be able to use all kinds of tool including GOGUI, a nice user interface for GO programs. The cgos client program speaks to the server in it's language and to your program using GTP. See how simple life can be? The CGOS protocol is about to change just slightly as I will be soon upgrading the server, but an updated client will be provided so that will require no change on your part. (And the old CGOS prototol will still work but with some restrictions.) - Don --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de wrote: From: Hellwig Geisse hellwig.gei...@mni.fh-giessen.de Subject: Re: [computer-go] gtp which version to implement? To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:44 AM On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:24 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote: Carter Cheng wrote: Thanks everyone for the help thus far. I have been looking at the GTP protocol page and I am curious which version of the protocol I should try to implement if I want to communicate with the servers. Should I be looking at the GTP 2.0 draft version? You should implement (part of) the draft. It's widely used nowadays. I'm not sure if there's any server out there that uses the old version. Just to be clear on this point: GTP is not a server protocol, but a protocol between a controller and an engine. If you want the engine to connect to a server, there is still a bridge needed, which communicates with the engine through GTP and with the server through whatever protocol the server is speaking. Hellwig ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
