Re: [CGUYS] shredding services

2007-07-27 Thread Judy Cosler

how big a risk do you consider this to be?

Alvin Auerbach wrote:
Note that the shedding is not done in front of your eyes. They load 
your papers on a truck and take them away, so you're trusting all of 
the people who handle your papers.




Judy Cosler

 next one is mid to late Sept community shred
 http://www.nbc4.com/sponsors/5340872/detail.html


Thank you very much for this info.  I'm actually a little
surprised that some place like Staples or Kinko's don't
have this, they have photo-copying, this would seem to be
the other side of that.

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Wayne D.   | supply this, at least not directly
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Re: [CGUYS] shredding services

2007-07-27 Thread Alvin Auerbach
There is no way for me to evaluate the risk, as I know nothing about 
the people, machines, and procedures being used to accomplish the 
shredding and disposal.


Since the whole idea of shredding is to keep others from viewing 
sensitive information, my preference is to not have that information 
placed in the hands of others before it is shredded. Of course I 
understand that many people have a different preference, based on the 
number of cars shown in the photographs of the event.


My attitudes may be shaped from my experience working for the Navy. 
We personally shredded our classified documents. We did not give them 
to anyone else for shredding, even if they had a security clearance. 
The shredder was an advanced model which turned the paper into dust 
particles smaller than a period at the end of a sentence.





how big a risk do you consider this to be?

Alvin Auerbach wrote:
Note that the shedding is not done in front of your eyes. They load 
your papers on a truck and take them away, so you're trusting all 
of the people who handle your papers.



Judy Cosler

 next one is mid to late Sept community shred
 http://www.nbc4.com/sponsors/5340872/detail.html


Thank you very much for this info.  I'm actually a little
surprised that some place like Staples or Kinko's don't
have this, they have photo-copying, this would seem to be
the other side of that.

--
Take care  | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't
Wayne D.   | supply this, at least not directly
I've never seen so damn many Indians.  --G.A. Custer




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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 12:51 PM -0500 7/26/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:



Apple stated how they accounted for the sales (270,000) and ATT 
stated how they accounted for the sales (146,000).  Apple counted 
all it had shipped, and ATT counted all it had sold, not including 
any on order or in transit (I leave that for a discussion on 
accounting rules and how they are used.), plus there is the fudge 
factor of those who bought phones but did not activate as they were 
trying to reap a profit in the after market.


ATT reported ACTIVATIONS of iPhones, NOT sales. Wired 
http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/07/apple-270k-ipho.html speculates 
that the discrepancy was caused by delays in activations as ATT's 
system was swamped, and also to people buying two iPhones, hoping to 
e-Bay the second for a profit.

--
Roger
Lovettsville, VA



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Re: [CGUYS] shredding services

2007-07-27 Thread Alvin Auerbach
Note that the shedding is not done in front of your eyes. They load 
your papers on a truck and take them away, so you're trusting all of 
the people who handle your papers.




Judy Cosler

 next one is mid to late Sept community shred
 http://www.nbc4.com/sponsors/5340872/detail.html


Thank you very much for this info.  I'm actually a little
surprised that some place like Staples or Kinko's don't
have this, they have photo-copying, this would seem to be
the other side of that.

--
Take care  | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't
Wayne D.   | supply this, at least not directly
I've never seen so damn many Indians.  --G.A. Custer




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Re: [CGUYS] LCD screen for photographer

2007-07-27 Thread David Turk
I've seen several LCD's that require a fairly steep change in angle to
make a difference in viewing.  Besides, I thought CRT's were recommended
to be changed out every 3-5 years, while LCD's have a longer lifespan.

David Turk
Photographer
Indiana Historical Society
450 W. Ohio St.
Indianapolis, IN  46202
(317) 232-4592
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] LCD screen for photographer

On Jul 26, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:

 Color accurate LCDs pose many problems. I will not argue the CRT vs 
 LCD
 debate. Suffice to say there are elements of a calibrated CRT that
 still can't be matched by any LCD - available - and there are also
 elements of LCD technology that exceed CRTs. We are improving things
 at a rapid pace. I expect within 2-3 years to be able to finally feel
 comfortable stating that we have an all around superior product in the
 LCD space.

   The viewing angle issue is going to have to be solved before LCD 
monitors can seriously compete with CRTs for accurate color, and 
brightness and contrast values.  Two people simultaneously viewing a 
CRT monitor will pretty much see the same thing.  Not so on an LCD.  
Get your image to look perfect on a CRT, and it will look the same 
every time.  On an LCD, it will change if you move your head a couple 
of inches.

   Steve



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Re: [CGUYS] Backup App for PC

2007-07-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
After many years of procrastination I have finally (with the help of  
Take Control of Mac Backups and SuperDuper!) installed a backup  
system for my two Macs.
Question: My wife has a PC.  Would someone recommend a simple, low- 
cost backup application comparable to SuperDuper! for the PC.  TIA

That is a very good book series (and cheap too!).

These days I'm using Ghost. I bought a slightly older version on the 'net 
for about $30. It clones one drive to another quite nicely and fixes 
corrupt drives too.

For file-level backups I've used SecondCopy 2000 to copy files to an 
external Firewire drive. It has a nice feature where it will keep an 
archive of files as they are updated. So you always have an up to date 
copy of your files, but can also go back to older versions if you have 
too. This is very useful in situations where you don't discover you have 
a problem until several backup cycles have passed. It is easy to set up, 
but can be a little overwhemling with all the options it offers. But the 
options let you set up almost any kind of backup style that you prefer.



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Re: [CGUYS] LCD screen for photographer

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 26, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Tony B wrote:


This was true maybe 3-5 years ago. But no longer. Go to any trade show
- including graphics-oriented - and you'll find CRTs rare. On the rare
occasions I want someone else to look at my monitor, I move a bit; no
big deal. Certainly not worth hassling with a CRT. And I don't know
where you get your CRTs, but after dealing with them for 50 years now
I can agree with the NTSC moniker - Never Twice the Same Color.

While a few select people may have some overwhelming need for some
version of 'color accuracy' (whatever THAT is), most of us put that
lofty concept way down on our list. A good *looking* picture is much
more important. As well as weight and footprint.


  I shall suppose that you do not work in the graphics field, and that 
you also do not work in photography or photo restoration.


  As to the weight of a CRT, what is the big deal?  Once it is in 
place, it is in place.  Who needs to keep moving it?  As to footprint, 
you do what you gotta do.  I need a large format printer, so I can't 
let footprint stand in the way of that either.  I have no complaints 
about my set up.


  BTW, I have two LCDs, but they just do not get it done for my color 
work that needs a higher degree of accuracy.


  Steve



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread Snyder, Mark
Offices focused on the tremendous advantage PCs had over Apple -
purchase price on the hardware and the software.  Apple was trying to
master solutions; PC vendors were trying to offer lowest price combos of
hardware and software from many different manufacturers.  M$ Windows was
their all-purpose, one size fits all glue to hold it all together.  But
that is all that purchasing departments looked at.  Productivity did not
impress the purchasing dept.  PC manufacturers made more PCs.  Apple's
master solution configuration has been steadily improving in the interim
while the price has become more competitive.

Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
snip  I was not dissing either, but I was searching for the reason
that Mac did not gain the market share that Windows machines have.
Windows folks quite often appear to loathe the Mac as much as Mac users
often appear want to avoid the Windows platform.  So, to rephrase my
original sentence, does Apple not have the market share enjoyed by
Windows machines because purchasers of computers think the Macs are not
only horribly ugly, but are just plain lousy to begin with, or is it
because the Mac OS over the years has been perceived to be unstable and
therefore almost useless?  Or, is it because Apple did not zero in on
the office and business environment primarily at the outset, and instead
appealed to the more artistically inclined computer user.  Or, was there
some other primary reason, such as not licensing out, except for a short
time, the manufacturing of the machines that the Mac OS runs on?



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Re: [CGUYS] LCD screen for photographer

2007-07-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I've seen several LCD's that require a fairly steep change in angle to
make a difference in viewing.  Besides, I thought CRT's were recommended
to be changed out every 3-5 years, while LCD's have a longer lifespan.

Maybe you should start by measuring your own visual acuity? It makes no 
sense to get a monitor that exceeds the specifications of its user. If 
you observe that it takes a fairly steep change in angle to make a 
difference in viewing then you probably don't need the same kind of 
monitor as a person who can detect changes of less than a deltaE. (1 
DeltaE is the smallest difference an average person can detect.)

A factory-fresh, $5000, Barco CRT would have a deltaE of under 1 over the 
entire surface of the screen. That is why it is expensive.

At Tom's hardware I see that they do test the deltaE of many LCD 
monitors. For LCDs they claim that a deltaE under 2 is good: all but 
undetectable to the user. I know many people would not find that 
acceptable.

Tom's also plots the image brightness over the screen surface. Some 
monitors they think are good have only 65% brightness at the edges 
(center = 100%). Now I wonder how a monitor with that kind of difference 
can be said to have a good deltaE. Having the brightness drop off by 
nearly a stop from center to edge ain't good in by book.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 26, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Tony B wrote:


This is such a badly constructed sentence I can't be sure if you're
dissing Apple or Windows. :)


  Okay.  The sentence was not well put together.  I was not dissing 
either, but I was searching for the reason that Mac did not gain the 
market share that Windows machines have.  Windows folks quite often 
appear to loathe the Mac as much as Mac users often appear want to 
avoid the Windows platform.  So, to rephrase my original sentence, does 
Apple not have the market share enjoyed by Windows machines because 
purchasers of computers think the Macs are not only horribly ugly, but 
are just plain lousy to begin with, or is it because the Mac OS over 
the years has been perceived to be unstable and therefore almost 
useless?  Or, is it because Apple did not zero in on the office and 
business environment primarily at the outset, and instead appealed to 
the more artistically inclined computer user.  Or, was there some other 
primary reason, such as not licensing out, except for a short time, the 
manufacturing of the machines that the Mac OS runs on?


  I can assure you that there are as many, and probably many more 
Windows fanboys than there are Mac fanboys.  I have been informed by 
numerous Windows users that they would never even consider buying a 
Mac.


  Steve



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I was searching for the reason that Mac did not gain the 
market share that Windows machines have  Or, was there some other 
primary reason, such as not licensing out, except for a short time, the 
manufacturing of the machines that the Mac OS runs on?

The answer has been well demonstrated in the courts. Have you already 
forgotten those famous words: Knife the baby. Just Google that phrase 
for a reminder.



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Re: [CGUYS] LCD screen for photographer

2007-07-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I tried that experiment with my NEC Diamondtron CRT, and I am able to 
see the gradations from 1 and then at every single increment above 
that.

Many expensive monitors were souped up versions of the Diamondtron. I 
often told clients to buy the Diamondtron and make a hood by carving up 
its cardboard box and spray painting it gray.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread Snyder, Mark
One of the salient links Tom refers to is to Business Week:
 http://www.businessweek.com/microsoft/updates/up81105b.htm  

So, Gates often used plain old fashioned muscle building the M$ empire.
 
Mark Snyder
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The answer has been well demonstrated in the courts. Have you already
forgotten those famous words: Knife the baby. Just Google that phrase
for a reminder.



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[CGUYS] Firefox f-up

2007-07-27 Thread Harvey Simon
Problem solved.  I thought I had uninstalled the Gmarks Firefox add on, but
noticed it still listed in Tools -- Add Ons.  Once I disabled it there, the
blank white area at the bottom of my browser disappeared.

Before I figured that out, though, I tried uninstalling Firefox and
downloading it anew.  I tried that a couple times, but when the program
started up, I could see it was the version I thought I¹d trashed.  Just for
reference, why couldn¹t I install a fresh copy of Firefox?

Thanks.



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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox f-up

2007-07-27 Thread John DeCarlo
On 7/27/07, Harvey Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Before I figured that out, though, I tried uninstalling Firefox and
 downloading it anew.  I tried that a couple times, but when the program
 started up, I could see it was the version I thought I¹d trashed.  Just
 for
 reference, why couldn¹t I install a fresh copy of Firefox?


1.  How do you know it was the version you thought you trashed?

2.  Weren't you installing the same version anyway (presumably the most
recent, 2.0.0.5)?

3.  You are probably confusing the profile or configuration with the
software.  You can change the Firefox software and keep the same profile,
with the same plugins, bookmarks, history, etc.

That's why Tom was trying to get you to run Firefox with a new profile, so
you could see if it was a problem with your configuration / profile.  As you
say, all too often it is a plugin, or a large bookmarks file, or some
configuration change that is recorded in prefs.js or user.js that messed you
up.  So creating a new profile will let you compare a vanilla setup with
your regular one.

In Linux, your Firefox profile is typically in a hidden directory.
Unfortunately, some distributions put things in special locations, but if
you are using the downloaded version, it will look in .mozilla/firefox/...
So renaming .mozilla to .mozilla-old or the like will get your profile stuff
out of the way and force Firefox to create a new one.

This is my best guess, given your cryptic description.


-- 
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit

2007-07-27 Thread mike

That doesn't matter much though because Apple makes money on hardware, not
software. I'm sure they are very happy to sell macs that will primarily run
windows.

Mike

On 7/26/07, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Presumably those 'demanding' Macs are using them to run Windows,
because hits on my site are holding steady at around 2%. Oddly, not
too much more than are running Windows Longhorn (Windows Server 2008)
(1.6%).

It's got to be particularly galling to Mac fanboys that in order to
gain any kind of market share Apple is having to phase out of the
computer OS business.

On 7/25/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Apple Inc.'s fiscal third-quarter profit soared more than 73 percent,
 fueled by demand for its Macintosh computers, the strength of its iPod
 media players and the sales of 270,000 iPhones in the first two days
 on the market.



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