Re: [CGUYS] FIOS and surge protection
Google fiber optic cable or read: www.howstuffworks.com/fiber-optic.htm www.arcelect.com/fibercable.htm Do you know the actual construction of the Fios cable? While the data transmission medium is glass fiber, there may well be a metal wire or jacket component for tensile strength. If the latter exists, it could conduct a lightening strike or a hit from a broken high tension wire. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] FIOS and surge protection
A quotation from the second citation: The modular design of loose-tube cables typically holds up to 12 fibers per buffer tube with a maximum per cable fiber count of more than 200 fibers. Loose-tube cables can be all-dielectric or optionally armored. The modular buffer-tube design permits easy drop-off of groups of fibers at intermediate points, without interfering with other protected buffer tubes being routed to other locations. The loose-tube design also helps in the identification and administration of fibers in the system. What's the optional armor? Is it metallic? Since it's an alternative to all dielectric, it likely is metallic. You have to be sure that the actual cable in use doesn't have any metal at all in it before you state that it isn't a lightening / high voltage contact hazard. More from the second citation: In a loose-tube cable design, color-coded plastic buffer tubes house and protect optical fibers. A gel filling compound impedes water penetration. Excess fiber length (relative to buffer tube length) insulates fibers from stresses of installation and environmental loading. Buffer tubes are stranded around a dielectric or steel central member, which serves as an anti-buckling element. This paragraph explicitly cites a steel central member which is likely for tensile strength. Admittedly, the multiple-fibre cables aren't going to be used for house drops. But you never know what may be in a specific engineering design. Fred Holmes At 07:09 AM 11/20/2007, Daniel Else wrote: Google fiber optic cable or read: www.howstuffworks.com/fiber-optic.htm www.arcelect.com/fibercable.htm Do you know the actual construction of the Fios cable? While the data transmission medium is glass fiber, there may well be a metal wire or jacket component for tensile strength. If the latter exists, it could conduct a lightening strike or a hit from a broken high tension wire. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP camera osx
I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed by OSX v1.4.11... I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows. As a result, I've never gotten one going. I'm casually following such cameras so I can't cite a specific brand, but I have noticd the situation has gotten better. Early cameras required Active-X for controls. Manufacturerers soon learned that this was not a good thing to do. Nice story at: www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2005/12/30/d-link-dcs-900-ip-camera-is -a-flipping-bargain * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP camera osx
I just did a Google search of wireless camera Mac, without the quotes, and saw some promising hits. Did you try that? Charles Ballinger wrote: I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off a bit on 10.5). I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows. As a result, I've never gotten one going. Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher probability of success? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP camera osx
Yes.. but of course not until after I posted my question! I've been so used to not finding anything that I'd given up. I found the non-ActiveX (is that what used to be called OLE?) cameras that Tom mentioned in his reply. I even found several selling at a site called macmall.com. It looks like the remaining hinderance is me shedding a few hundred dollars. On Nov 20, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Jordan wrote: I just did a Google search of wireless camera Mac, without the quotes, and saw some promising hits. Did you try that? Charles Ballinger wrote: I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off a bit on 10.5). I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows. As a result, I've never gotten one going. Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher probability of success? ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Upgrade Ubuntu Studio Feisty to Gutsy?
Don't take my word as gospel but Gutsy is both, according to the Linux Action Guys, a standout distro and really easy (comparatively) for installing (available) proprietary drivers. If you could get it with Fiesty, I would be really surprised if you can't get it Gutsy and in even a more automated way. I don't know that studio version. Is that for media centers, or just media heavy users. Is there a Gutsy studio? If no Gutsy studio it may be because the install of special drivers and codecs is so easy. Again, this is a non-expert opinion, only use if you have no other info. The Avast Windows navigator (with plug-ins) was also highly touted in the gutsy review. -PJM Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:08:31 AM Subject: [CGUYS] Upgrade Ubuntu Studio Feisty to Gutsy? Hi, When I installed Ubuntu I got the Ubuntu Studio distribution basically because I thought it looked cool, not because I am an A/V enthusiast. Now I would like to upgrade to Feisty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon. It is my impression that this is a routine procedure, but I am curious whether my not having a plain vanilla distribution will affect this? In addition I have NVIDIA drivers and am using the Beryl window manager (which I believe gets replaced with Compiz as part of the upgrade). Does this make a difference? I would hate to have reinstall the drivers manually. Plus without them, Compiz won't have a prayer of working. Basically, I just want things to still work after the process is complete! Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] FIOS and surge protection
This paragraph explicitly cites a steel central member which is likely for tensile strength. Surge protection or lightning protection? I expect your connection will have enough insulation to protect against surges. Any metal armor or support wire isn't going to be directly connected to your circuit. Lightning is another matter. If this is an aerial cable it may be exposed to lightning and lightning could travel on the cable even if it was non-metallic. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What a mess...
Isn't that like how Microsoft has proclaimed Internet Explorer to be a standard so they don't need to follow what the standards setting body has set. On Nov 20, 2007 5:50 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My impression is that Linksys gear is more non-standard than some other companies in the home networking market. LinkSys is Cisco's SOHO brand. Isn't Cisco standard by definition? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
