Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

The Apple external radios are what I was talking about as the cable
ones.  They are just too darn fragile to survive my prolonged use.
I've gone through two of them already.  There is a picture here
-.

I do like how it handles presets although I would like it to be able
to save a few sets of presets so I could have all the gym's FM
stations for the TV on a separate set.  This is the sort of thing
Apple would really rock at if Steve cared about it.

I think the worst 'feature' of the thing is how the cable that
attaches to dock like the iPod's USB data cable with the cord coming
out of the center.  It's not bad for something that will be laying on
a table but for something designed to be used while moving around it
isn't such a good Idea.

It would work better if there were a small box at the dock with a
second head phone jack or maybe a small antenna.  Now it probably uses
the headphone cord as an FM antenna.

It is just a real kludge of a device to get a check box.  It really
lacks the Apple elegance that I have come to expect.  There are too
many occasions where I want a radio and end up carrying one in
addition to my iPod.. That mass of cable is as big as some small
radios I've owned.  Heck it is bad enough to make me consider buying a
Zune.

On Dec 4, 2007 7:55 PM, Steve at Verizon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, Apple does make an iPod Radio Remote for $49. Check the Apple
> Store.
> It goes between the iPod and the earphones. Gives you a radio display
> and allows you to set presets. I enjoy mine. (I readily admit you can
> probably find a non-iPod player with FM radio  for around the same
> price. I still use my old iRiver for FM as well as recording.)
>
>
> John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
> > I wouldn't mind having a Zune for the gym since Apple would never put
> > an FM tuner in the iPod.  I have destroyed two of the in cable ones.
> > Of course audible.com doesn't support the Zune which is a big draw
> > back as well.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[CGUYS] New email address generator

[Jeff Wright]

http://www.guerrillamail.com/

Haven't tried yet, but it looks like a very cool implementation.   Good for
one-use, throwaway sign ups.



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[Jeff Wright]

> I rarely use IE since the last one for Macs was v.5.5. I was at the
> public library today looking up some reference information--couldn't
> find it in Reference so I looked online. They have IE 6. I've requested
> that they get Firefox too, so we could have a choice [of something that
> works]. It was at least my tenth request, but it's still only IE 6.
> When
> I travel and use Internet cafes, I ask for a choice and almost every
> time, when I return they've installed Firefox. One place asked me to
> download it for him, then he installed it. [Nine out of ten so far.]

Why not just get an U3 USB drive and run it from there?  Problem solved and
you can quit nagging people.



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Re: [CGUYS] scrup-a-licous [was: MS IE 7]

[Jeff Wright]

> >I'm giving away 6 year old computers to staff
> 
> Giving away these sad-sack computers so you won't get stuck with paying
> the $15 recycling fee. You are probably going to take a tax credit too.
> You are so unscrupulous.

The staff didn't think so.  They knew all the specs going in and I'm turning
people down due to limited supply.  Next batch will be in a few months and
those are already spoken for.  For everyday tasks, they're actually pretty
decent perfomers.

It's called a win-win.  I get rid of old equipment without having to deal
with recyclers and I reclaim storage space.  They get a free computer and
monitor with a legal, fully patched and freshly installed OS and oodles of
free/open source software already installed (and on a CD if they need to
reinstall or want to install on another PC).  

Heck, the siren song's pull is so strong, even my MacZealot manager is
getting one.



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[Tom Piwowar]

>I'm not familiar with IE causing so much trouble for people who don't 
>use it, but now it makes sense, sort of. The solution is for web authors 
>to put a note on the page, viewed best with [name a good browser], and a 
>warning that it may not work with IE. If that were done enough would 
>sites lose viewers or would people take a hint.

Take a look at webstandards.org to see how mad folks are about this issue.



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[b_s-wilk]

You are out of your depth on this one. The problems with IE are 
fundamental errors with page geometry and how different page elements 
interact. It has nothing to do with "scripts and Flash" except that some 
developers use Flash as a way to avoid MS's bugs. Getting CSS to work 
properly would be a great boon to professional web authoring and save 
businesss a peck of dough.


I rarely use IE since the last one for Macs was v.5.5. I was at the 
public library today looking up some reference information--couldn't 
find it in Reference so I looked online. They have IE 6. I've requested 
that they get Firefox too, so we could have a choice [of something that 
works]. It was at least my tenth request, but it's still only IE 6. When 
I travel and use Internet cafes, I ask for a choice and almost every 
time, when I return they've installed Firefox. One place asked me to 
download it for him, then he installed it. [Nine out of ten so far.]


I'm not familiar with IE causing so much trouble for people who don't 
use it, but now it makes sense, sort of. The solution is for web authors 
to put a note on the page, viewed best with [name a good browser], and a 
warning that it may not work with IE. If that were done enough would 
sites lose viewers or would people take a hint.


Nah, forget that. Never mind.



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Re: [CGUYS] Marketshare [Was: USB Turntable?]

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

As flash memory is capable of holding more GB's of memory they will 
get smaller and lighter.  However when you get into the 20GB and 
above theya re still HD based.


They have shrunk the size of the HD (They are now about 1x1 instead of 2.5)

I still prefer the larger (HD) sized players.

Stewart


At 06:10 PM 12/4/2007, you wrote:

>Actually I think they mean hard disk mp3 players.

Actually I think they mean hard disk mp3 players that are brown.

And the market is shifting away from players with hard disks.


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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[Steve at Verizon]

Actually, Apple does make an iPod Radio Remote for $49. Check the Apple 
Store.
It goes between the iPod and the earphones. Gives you a radio display 
and allows you to set presets. I enjoy mine. (I readily admit you can 
probably find a non-iPod player with FM radio  for around the same 
price. I still use my old iRiver for FM as well as recording.)



John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

I wouldn't mind having a Zune for the gym since Apple would never put
an FM tuner in the iPod.  I have destroyed two of the in cable ones.
Of course audible.com doesn't support the Zune which is a big draw
back as well.

  




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Re: [CGUYS] MS IE 7

[Tom Piwowar]

>I'm giving away 6 year old computers to staff

Giving away these sad-sack computers so you won't get stuck with paying 
the $15 recycling fee. You are probably going to take a tax credit too. 
You are so unscrupulous.



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Re: [CGUYS] Marketshare [Was: USB Turntable?]

[Tom Piwowar]

>Actually I think they mean hard disk mp3 players.

Actually I think they mean hard disk mp3 players that are brown.

And the market is shifting away from players with hard disks.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[Wayne Dernoncourt]

Tom Piwowar
>>I understand that the new Zune lands pretty much in the
>>"doesn't suck real bad" category.

> Microsoft 2007 = Apple 2001. Apple has moved well beyond
> that old design.

My limited understanding is it's more Fall '05 or Spring '06
than 2001, but you could be correct.  If the comment is based
strictly on style, wouldn't that depend on what people like
for fashion?  I find it hard to believe that MS left so many
customers high and dry with "Plays for sure" (hmmm, maybe that
should be "Not so surprised").

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Re: [CGUYS] Marketshare [Was: USB Turntable?]

[mike]

Actually I think they mean hard disk mp3 players.   Even with that we're
talking double digit percentage points in difference.

Mike

On Dec 4, 2007 2:55 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >FWIW I heard that the Zune is number two in the market for MP3
> >players.  It is the competition that makes them look bad- iPods are so
> >dominant that they dwarf all the competition combined.
>
> NPD sez:
> Apple (75%)
> SanDisk (10%)
> Creative (4%)
> Samsung (2%)
> Sony (2%)
> Microsoft (2%)
>
> On the other hand, a news story today reports that MS estimates that 2
> copies of XP get pirated for each copy of Vista. Perhaps this is why MS
> is baking off on Vista's copy protection?
>
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[CGUYS] Tbird glitch

[John H. Davis]

I am using Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 on my Mac G5 at 10.39

Somewhere  during  one of the point upgrades  I lost the  ability  to  
see any header  info. Normal  or all.


No help at the Knowledge base.

Any ideas,   am I missing a setting somewhere?

TIA,
John



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[CGUYS] Marketshare [Was: USB Turntable?]

[Tom Piwowar]

>FWIW I heard that the Zune is number two in the market for MP3
>players.  It is the competition that makes them look bad- iPods are so
>dominant that they dwarf all the competition combined.

NPD sez:
Apple (75%)
SanDisk (10%)
Creative (4%)
Samsung (2%)
Sony (2%)
Microsoft (2%)

On the other hand, a news story today reports that MS estimates that 2 
copies of XP get pirated for each copy of Vista. Perhaps this is why MS 
is baking off on Vista's copy protection?



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[Tom Piwowar]

>But I bet that no one deigns to think of you as brain-dead just because 
>you are embracing this less than cutting edge technology.

It is cutting edge for another 14 months. If I hold on to it any longer I 
will be rightly called brain dead.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

FWIW I heard that the Zune is number two in the market for MP3
players.  It is the competition that makes them look bad- iPods are so
dominant that they dwarf all the competition combined.

I wouldn't mind having a Zune for the gym since Apple would never put
an FM tuner in the iPod.  I have destroyed two of the in cable ones.
Of course audible.com doesn't support the Zune which is a big draw
back as well.

On Dec 3, 2007 3:40 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >apparently these things are not selling very well.
>
> Last Dec when I was checking Amazon's best seller list for the Zune I
> noticed that two models of USB turntable were selling better than the
> Zune. So don't call it "not selling very well."
>
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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[Tom Piwowar]

>The only dodgey parts are whether the software will allow you to use
>the HD program guides and will they stop offering the guide since all
>this equipment is NTSC.

My guess is that they will drop service at the earliest opportunity.



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[Tom Piwowar]

>While it's possible to code a site with all the excessive bells and 
>whistles, commercial and nonprofit sites ultimately need to develop 
>their pages to attract customers/clients, not the script-kiddies putting 
>the sites together. It's not necessary to have lots of scripts and Flash 
>to create an attractive a site, especially when basic HTML with a few 
>simple extras will sell the product just as well. Techno-porn doesn't 
>appeal to people who just want to get some information or to buy 
>something. It belongs on game and video sites.

You are out of your depth on this one. The problems with IE are 
fundamental errors with page geometry and how different page elements 
interact. It has nothing to do with "scripts and Flash" except that some 
developers use Flash as a way to avoid MS's bugs. Getting CSS to work 
properly would be a great boon to professional web authoring and save 
businesss a peck of dough.

For example...
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
"A liquid box has a float inside, and content that appears along side 
that float. All is well, until it's viewed in IE6. "Wah? Where's my 
content?!" You reload the page, and nothing. When you scroll down, or 
perhaps switch to another window, upon returning to the 'scene of the 
crime' there it all is, fat 'n sassy!
  "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7 (released in 
late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the way out. IE6 will still 
exist however, and as long as it does we'll need to fix it.
  "This effect may turn up in a number of different contexts. We would 
try to list them here, 
but the page would become very long, and make our heads hurt."



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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[Tom Piwowar]

>I understand that the new Zune lands pretty much in the
>"doesn't suck real bad" category.

Microsoft 2007 = Apple 2001. Apple has moved well beyond that old design.



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Re: [CGUYS] No Internet for You [Was: MS IE 7]

[John Duncan Yoyo]

There is some good news for you.  The cable companies are required to
provide NSTC, Analog, signal until at least 2012.


I assume the Replay has an IR blaster type gizmo to allow it to
control a cable box.  You could use that to control one of the HD to
Analog converter boxes that the FCC will be handing out $40 dollar
coupons for next year.
  I have yet to
see any of these things in the wild but there listings online.  I want
one so I can watch the secondary channels on WETA and MPT.

The only dodgey parts are whether the software will allow you to use
the HD program guides and will they stop offering the guide since all
this equipment is NTSC.

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> Alas, yes. It is a Replay.
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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

The Crosley is expensive because it is furniture as well.
 There are two cheaper $300
models and two of the $400 models with the CD Writer.

Crosley made and still makes the classic Cathedral Radios from the
days of the Big Broadcast and the CD Burner is sort of a throw back.

On Dec 3, 2007 9:19 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Piwowar
> >>apparently these things are not selling very well.
> >
> > Last Dec when I was checking Amazon's best seller list
> > for the Zune I noticed that two models of USB turntable
> > were selling better than the Zune. So don't call it
> > "not selling very well."
>
> I understand that the new Zune lands pretty much in the
> "doesn't suck real bad" category.
>
> I've also heard of Crosley(?) mentioned on the TechGuy
> podcast as having a record player & tape deck with a
> CD burner.  Evidently it does at least as well as the
> Ion et. al. turntables.  It better, it costs like $400,
> it may be more automated.
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Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

It is probably something like this
.  This one looks like you
could leave it hooked to your Stereo system while downloading to your
computer.  For some others Google up a search for- RCA USB audio
interface.

I have heard that the USB based interfaces work better than a direct
connection to your sound card.  I suspect that the box digitizes the
signal on the fly while the sound card uses the CPU.

On Dec 3, 2007 8:34 PM, Judy Cosler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, would like details...what is the "small box?"
>
>
> Site Guy wrote:
> > - Original Message - From: "Myers, Jeffrey"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] USB Turntable?
> >
> >
> >> I am using a little device that connects a regular turntable to a
> >> computer.  I have the turntable (a pretty good Denon model) hooked into
> >> a small box that provides the proper equalization curve for LPs and then
> >> feeds it via usb to an old computer I no longer use for anything else.
> >> I'm slowly converting all of my LPs to cd and mp3 via this process.  I
> >> think this solution much better than a dedicated turntable.  Of course,
> >> I don't listen to my LPs anymore, which makes using my only turntable
> >> for this process possible.
> >>
> >> Since I'm not at home now, I can't provide the details for the little
> >> box, but if you want them, just e-mail me.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
>  -Original Message-
>  I'm looking to dub off some albums to CD and wanted to get
>  recommendations for the best way to do this. I've heard of  USB
>  turntable, USB turntable/cassette combo, and USB converter. I would
>  appreciate any thoughts and or recommendations.
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