Re: [CGUYS] Foot Fetish [Was: Antec KS188 re: case feet
If you live in an area with little or no dust it would be easy to think this. Dust? What dust? I've seen it completely block airflow over vents. Inside it's a thick covering on everything. The small fans on video cards are even more likely to be stopped or slowed because of dust. If you smoke it can get even worse, the tar accumulates on top of the dust making almost a dry goop on the fans. Mike On Dec 10, 2007 6:10 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was > >reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the > >computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the > >computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. > > Who cares? Why do you think a dusty computer will not work as well as a > clean one? Do you have any data to back this strange idea? > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Is the applet for the radio itself or to use on your computer? It sounds like a browser interface for the radio on the computer for setup, like there are for switches, routers, modems. It should be self-contained within the radio instead. Short-wave radios often have a big display, relative to size. My portable Kaito/Degen shortwave radio is tiny but has a display that's bigger than the iPhone or any other mobile phone or PDA. The WiFi radio could have a display like that too, with its own browser. If the WiFi radio had a touch-screen or good menu like Nokia phones and PDAs, that would make it much easier to find and save stations, and create presets of your favorites. Handheld devices are evolving quickly along some very exciting paths. Betty I think I mentioned previously that the Roku site provides a free applet you can download and which provides a web browser interface to the radio to setup and program presets. Check the link to the user manual I had in a message earlier today for screen shots. Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the "receiver" is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Fwd: The Elite Apple Corps
In case you missed this... - The Elite Apple Corps A Hundred Million Strong, Every One of Them Cool. By Hank Stuever Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, December 9, 2007; Page M01 Whatever it is (Radio Shack for rich people? The Sharp -est Image?), the Apple Store isn't what it used to be, even a year or so ago. The initial thrills, the feelings of i-comfort and i-belonging, still await you behind its translucent facade, especially now, in the gizmodic spree of the Christmas season. But somewhere along the way, the zendo quality of the Apple Store changed. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120700617.html * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Looks like PDF pages 12-20. Really good article too. Thanks. Richard P. Jeff wrote: An interesting article on heat and cooling. You'll need to scroll through the pdf to get to the article. http://dl.maximumpc.com/Archives/MPC0707-web.pdf * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Foot Fetish [Was: Antec KS188 re: case feet
>Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was >reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the >computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the >computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. Who cares? Why do you think a dusty computer will not work as well as a clean one? Do you have any data to back this strange idea? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Air flow is very important if you have passive cooling (for quietness) or dead spots in your case where air doesn't typically circulate and electronics provides a heat source. Being a man of refinement, Tony, I have hunch that you would love this case for its open design: http://www.maximumpc.com/sites/future.p2technology.com/files/imce-images/dav eguts_large.jpg An interesting article on heat and cooling. You'll need to scroll through the pdf to get to the article. http://dl.maximumpc.com/Archives/MPC0707-web.pdf > -Original Message- > AFAIK this is an old wives tale from the days before they built > temperature > sensors into chips. It was difficult to argue with back then. But these > days > it only takes minutes to actually test, and every test I've ever seen > shows > temperatures dropping the more open the case is. > > This case I have right now has a fan in the side panel that blows right > at > the CPU. But the CPU is still at least 10deg cooler when open (with > that fan > removed). > > That doesn't mean there aren't other disadvantages to the practice. If > it's > on the floor and you have pets/kids, forget it. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
I think I mentioned previously that the Roku site provides a free applet you can download and which provides a web browser interface to the radio to setup and program presets. Check the link to the user manual I had in a message earlier today for screen shots. Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the "receiver" is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. Fred Holmes * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: >Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding >stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of >thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to >see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online >of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the "receiver" is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. Fred Holmes * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
mike wrote: Actually he mentioned leaving the side open and pointing a fan at it. Opening the side and leaving it open does interfere with airflow in the better designed cases. Apple has very specifically designed cases, those you don't want to leave the door open on. Mike Mike, Thankyou for the clarification. I forgot about the fan. Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
AFAIK this is an old wives tale from the days before they built temperature sensors into chips. It was difficult to argue with back then. But these days it only takes minutes to actually test, and every test I've ever seen shows temperatures dropping the more open the case is. This case I have right now has a fan in the side panel that blows right at the CPU. But the CPU is still at least 10deg cooler when open (with that fan removed). That doesn't mean there aren't other disadvantages to the practice. If it's on the floor and you have pets/kids, forget it. On Dec 10, 2007 4:47 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually he mentioned leaving the side open and pointing a fan at it. > opening the side and leaving it open does interfere with airflow in the > better designed cases. Apple has very specifically designed cases, those > you don't want to leave the door open on. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Reader for SDHC media cards
they eight bucks on amazon. At 10:10 AM 12/10/2007, you wrote: >I had to buy a new card reader that specifically states it can handle SD HC. >Other card readers wouldn't recognize the SD HC card. > >david > >David Turk >Manager, Preservation Imaging Services >Indiana Historical Society >450 W. Ohio St. >Indianapolis, IN 46202 >(317) 232-4592 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL >PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald >Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:19 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: [CGUYS] Reader for SDHC media cards > >I bought a new camera for me. It has capability to use SDHC media. I bought >a 4&8 gig media. they are formatted differently. > >when I plug the schc card into the correct slot for an SD media on my '06 >compaq amd, the computor locks up. screen is wiped. get a message that >control panel is not functioning on a cntl alt del. > >same thing on an 06 ASUS amd. > >now what?? > > > > >* ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== >* ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== >* Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name >* Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST >* Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L >* New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress >* Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ >* RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml >* Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > >* ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== >* ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== >* Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name >* Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST >* Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L >* New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress >* Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ >* RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml >* Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
actually he mentioned leaving the side open and pointing a fan at it. opening the side and leaving it open does interfere with airflow in the better designed cases. Apple has very specifically designed cases, those you don't want to leave the door open on. Mike On Dec 10, 2007 10:48 AM, Christopher Range <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John H. Davis wrote: > > > Christopher Range wrote: > > > >> While it is staying cool, it still gets awfully dusty. Is that one of > >> the omens of having a computerthat, the inside of a computer will > >> invariably get dust on the inside, eventually? > >> > >> Christopher > > > > Just think of it as a "whole house" air cleaner. > > John > > Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was > reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the > computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the > computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. > > Christopher > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Jeff Wright wrote: A complete case on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Antec-KS-188-Full-Tower-Case-Beige-3-fans-13-drive-bays_ W0QQitemZ130180551416QQihZ003QQcategoryZ80166QQcmdZViewItem Jeff, Thankyou AGAIN. I am now the high bidder on that auction but, there are 2 days + 20hrs. till, the auction ends. Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
John Mealey III wrote: I think folks on this list have noted that the 'little fuzzy stick on's' work okkeeps me from scatching the floor, or the shelf the thing get's set on. I toss the rubber ones. John I presume, what you are referring to, is the type that has felt(sp) on the bottom? Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Perhaps. But not on the horizontal parts. Again, the more air you circulate the more dirt you're throwing at it. Tear out the carpet. Buy some parquet. On Dec 10, 2007 12:48 PM, Christopher Range <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was > reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the > computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the > computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
I don't know the theory behind case design as far as computers go, but in other equipment that I'm familiar with, the case design controls air flow (via the fans), especially to the other components that don't have a fan. The (metal) case also provides some EM protection. As far as dust collection, it will accumulate inside the case (that's fan-cooled), whether it's open or not. Don't know if all this applies to computers as well but that's my .02 worth. Richard P. Christopher Range wrote: John H. Davis wrote: Christopher Range wrote: While it is staying cool, it still gets awfully dusty. Is that one of the omens of having a computerthat, the inside of a computer will invariably get dust on the inside, eventually? Christopher Just think of it as a "whole house" air cleaner. John Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Richard P. wrote: And to think that I wasted all that money on a furnace purification system... Now I know why the filters aren't getting dirty... ;-) Richard P. Funny :-D Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
John H. Davis wrote: Christopher Range wrote: While it is staying cool, it still gets awfully dusty. Is that one of the omens of having a computerthat, the inside of a computer will invariably get dust on the inside, eventually? Christopher Just think of it as a "whole house" air cleaner. John Ok. I do have one quandry on the 'air circulation' issue. I was reading the other day that, leaving the case open while using the computer would actually allow more dust to get on the iinside of the computer yet, that is what one person mentioned, that they do. Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Does the device have an Ethernet cable connection as well, or is WiFi the only way to obtain a signal? I use a wired router at home, and the only place (for now) that I would use such a device is in the room with my computer. Thanks, Fred Holmes At 09:22 PM 12/9/2007, Steve at Verizon wrote: >About a month ago, I asked here about internet radios, which was a new concept >to me. I was helpfully pointed at a few and checked out and ordered the Roku >Soundbridge R1000 for $250 (they also make an M1000 for $150, which connects >to your hifi system instead of having built in speakers). > >This was for my 90 year old mom who had to move to assisted living in her >retirement community. She loved her over-the-air classical FM stations, but >could not receive them in the main building. Last visit to her, I picked up a >WiFi signal in her room so contacted the techie there. They use WPA security, >so I had the unit delivered to me first, set up my Linksys for WPA, and could >easily configure the Roku for WPA. I also found 8 great internet radio >classical stations; public radio in NY, Boston, DC, Minnesota, even a great >classical station from the UK, which I entered as presets. Mailed it to her >and she is thrilled with the selection. > >The R1000 is similar to a small Bose, but a few inches taller. It has great >sound. The display is 4 lines by 80. Very easy learning how to operate with >the remote. There is even a small app you can download from Roku to >communicate with it from a browser window to manage the presets, and other >options. Really neat! > >It also can receive OTA FM by attaching an antenna. And it has an SD slot, >primarily as a vehicle for updating firmware (shipped unit was current), but >you can load an SD with MP3 music and play that as well. > >Although a bit pricey, as Tom suggests, I can really see WiFi internet as the >future for in home "radio". > >And, as was just recently mentioned here, many music managers (I use iTunes) >can access thousands of radio stations which stream. That was how I found the >classical music stations for my mom. As was mentioned, I, also, have internet >radio going, when I'm on my PC. > >Tom Piwowar wrote: >>Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? >> >> >>http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/tes >>t_bench/article3016102.ece >> >>"With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the >>arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. >>Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than >>picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations -- be they analogue >>or digital -- a wi-fi "radio" uses a broadband connection to receive audio >>signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, >> >>"And the sound is often better too... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMovie & iDVD
File>Burn to DVD ? The option may not be available until the encoding is finished. There's a status button somewhere to check on it. On Dec 10, 2007 10:25 AM, David Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone tell me how to save an iMovie in iDVD onto a DVD, so that it > plays as a regular DVD on a player? All I keep seeing are references to > "saving as a project". I know these are supposed to be simple programs, but > I'm not finding the info I need in the Help sections. tia. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
And to think that I wasted all that money on a furnace purification system... Now I know why the filters aren't getting dirty... ;-) Richard P. No, I haven't ever seen a case that took in any appreciable amount of air from the bottom. If you're interested in max cooling, leave your case *open*. Point a fan at it. While it is staying cool, it still gets awfully dusty. Is that one of the omens of having a computerthat, the inside of a computer will invariably get dust on the inside, eventually? Just think of it as a "whole house" air cleaner. John * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Interesting- the Roberts radio in the article Tom links to is the same as a Sangean in this country. No surprise really. Jordan wrote: I have a regular FM that is fairly hi-tech made by Sangean. When this subject last came up I did a little looking around at the Wi-Fi radios and discovered that Sangean is making a few that sound pretty interesting. They might be worth a look if you are interested in this. http://www.sangean.com/category.php?category_ID=12 Tom Piwowar wrote: Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/tes t_bench/article3016102.ece "With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations -- be they analogue or digital -- a wi-fi "radio" uses a broadband connection to receive audio signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, "And the sound is often better too... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Antec KS188 re: case feet
Christopher Range wrote: Tony B wrote: No, I haven't ever seen a case that took in any appreciable amount of air from the bottom. If you're interested in max cooling, leave your case *open*. Point a fan at it. While it is staying cool, it still gets awfully dusty. Is that one of the omens of having a computerthat, the inside of a computer will invariably get dust on the inside, eventually? Christopher Just think of it as a "whole house" air cleaner. John * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] iMovie & iDVD
Can someone tell me how to save an iMovie in iDVD onto a DVD, so that it plays as a regular DVD on a player? All I keep seeing are references to "saving as a project". I know these are supposed to be simple programs, but I'm not finding the info I need in the Help sections. tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Reader for SDHC media cards
I had to buy a new card reader that specifically states it can handle SD HC. Other card readers wouldn't recognize the SD HC card. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:19 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Reader for SDHC media cards I bought a new camera for me. It has capability to use SDHC media. I bought a 4&8 gig media. they are formatted differently. when I plug the schc card into the correct slot for an SD media on my '06 compaq amd, the computor locks up. screen is wiped. get a message that control panel is not functioning on a cntl alt del. same thing on an 06 ASUS amd. now what?? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
A few thoughts on this topic... *) None of today's units seem to be able to play the newest streaming audio format AAC (successor to .mp3). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding *) Presumably these units will be worse than cell phones in an emergency. Especially since the 'broadcasters' aren't actually "broad"casting at all. *) While setup at grandma's may be easy, all of us with forwarded ports (DHCP disabled) aren't going to have nearly as easy a time. How the heck am I supposed to get my 63 bit key into one of these anyway? Type carefully??? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>What kinda novice are you?? It's a dead link!! ...or maybe it's only gud4 >>macs!! ;^) > >Works for me. It must be information Microsoft does not want you to have. Dude, the obvious problem is a line break. I used tinyurl to fix: http://tinyurl.com/2zgfec Good luck! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
