Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?
I am not an audiophile, but I always enjoyed wonderful music. However I have lost parts of my hearing over time as I served with line units in the army reserve. That still does not keep me from recognizing a bad recording from a good one. I can listen to some MP3's and tell you they are inferior by how they sound. It is not just audio range it is brilliance and clarity in the sound you hear. It is like going to a symphony and listening to a piece of music. When you have heard it once done properly with a full orchestra, to hear it any other way is a disappointment. We have gotten used to inferior sounding music. FM radio was good, but not great. Car stereos were abysmal for so many years we got used to it. Once you are used to inferior sound and have never heard the way it is supposed to sound you don't know the difference. (My Grandfather was a Master - Master Organ builder in Germany for many decades. I have heard some wonderful pipe organs at one time in the past.) Stewart At 10:40 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: Fortunately or otherwise ( ;-) ), I still have most of my hearing. My occasional job requires this as an audio technician. I use a great pair of headphones for fieldwork which also work great at home. They block out the external noise as described below. Remote Audio HN-7506 headphones: http://www.remoteaudio.com/hn7506.htm Richard P. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?
Fortunately or otherwise ( ;-) ), I still have most of my hearing. My occasional job requires this as an audio technician. I use a great pair of headphones for fieldwork which also work great at home. They block out the external noise as described below. Remote Audio HN-7506 headphones: http://www.remoteaudio.com/hn7506.htm Richard P. Eric wrote: Most of us have ears that are somewhat damaged and they will only be getting worse as time goes by. So for a personal music collection it would be silly to use any technology that is better than what one can hear. I never spent a lot of time at rock concerts in my younger days, actually I'm not very fond of much rock, anyway. I'm also an occasional shooter (firearms not films), and hearing protection is a huge issue in that community. I have several hearing protection devices, the best of which is actively compensated in such a way that you can hear a normal conversation but not the impulse noise of a gunshot. That would work well at a rock concert, because the degree of attenuation is adjustable. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Happy New Year!
Happy New Year (at least in the eastern time zone), to all on the list. Thanks to everyone who has helped us all to get through another computing year. Richard P. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Quickbooks and MD taxes
I got it on the 29th. On Dec 31, 2007 9:46 PM, katan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at this, I'm talking to myself. > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:35:36 -0500, Reid Katan wrote: > > >Many of you living in Maryland know that the sales tax rate is going > >up from 5% to 6%. Those of you that don't: SURPRISE! > > Well, my lost sheep finally came home. I sent this Saturday, and just > got it today. Go figure. > -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Quickbooks and MD taxes
Look at this, I'm talking to myself. On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:35:36 -0500, Reid Katan wrote: >Many of you living in Maryland know that the sales tax rate is going >up from 5% to 6%. Those of you that don't: SURPRISE! Well, my lost sheep finally came home. I sent this Saturday, and just got it today. Go figure. -- R:\katan -- An ant is what it is and a grasshopper is what it is and Christmas, sir, is a humbug. Good day. Ebenezer Scrooge * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?
If you are going to take that position then you would not be digitizing from anything less than the original master recording. So as I said before: is this being done for a personal music collection or for the Smithsonian? I thought I was discussing playback of material all ready in the digital domain and the limitations of the common digital media, also ways to minimize some of thir limitations. When I record, which I haven't in years, it's live performances. My tape IS the original "master." If I'm converting an analog medium to digital, e. g. cassette or LP, I have a TASCAM deck that burns a Red Book compliant CD of either medium. Sometimes it even gets the tracks right :-). I then rip the resultant CD to hard drive in .WAV format. Sometimes I'll just repalce to original analog recording with a CD, but I have a large record collection and that can get expensive fast. Most of us have ears that are somewhat damaged and they will only be getting worse as time goes by. So for a personal music collection it would be silly to use any technology that is better than what one can hear. I never spent a lot of time at rock concerts in my younger days, actually I'm not very fond of much rock, anyway. I'm also an occasional shooter (firearms not films), and hearing protection is a huge issue in that community. I have several hearing protection devices, the best of which is actively compensated in such a way that you can hear a normal conversation but not the impulse noise of a gunshot. That would work well at a rock concert, because the degree of attenuation is adjustable. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] RIP: AOL kills Netscape
>Actually the pay for Netscape model killed Netscape. Free that works >will always garner more users. I agree, that's why we now have everybody running Linux on their desktops. >By the time Netscape responded, IE had the market. No, what I see is the result of a corrupt administration failing to enforce the laws against a convicted monopolist. Netscape was an innovative young company that launched a revolutionary new product and was making a good business selling it at a low price (I think $25.). They were crushed by very unfair tactics. When a company develops an innovative product and is prevented from selling it there is really no way for it to successfully respond. With its income choked off it can't continue. That is why such tactics are illegal. >I know stupidity when I saw it, and AOL hasn't really been good at >predicting the market since dialup faded. I think AOL acquired Netscape mainly for its lawsuit potential. They got $750,000,000 from MS for their trouble, so I would say that they were right. AOL is now part of Time-Warner and is managed like that. I had hoped that AOL would invigorate TW, which was rich in media properties, but poor on brains and innovation. It turned out that TW management was very good at one thing: internecine warfare. Lazy TW management saved their asses by destroying AOL. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Quickbooks and MD taxes
Not having the full table, I can't answer the question definitively, but from what you have there, it looks like Maryland is rounding up any fraction of a penny whatsoever. (Quickbooks probably rounds to the nearest penny.) I don't know what formula syntax Quickbooks may use, but in Excel (2000) it would be the use of the formula ROUNDUP() instead of ROUND(). TAX=ROUNDUP(SALE*0.06,2) Do you even have access to the sales tax formula in Quickbooks, or is it "hard wired" into the code? Fred Holmes At 01:35 PM 12/29/2007, Reid Katan wrote: >MD says, for instance, that the tax on $1.01-$1.16 is $.07. >Quickbooks, however, says that $.07 tax is between $1.09-$1.24. > >Is there any way to make Quickbooks conform to Maryland's math? > >Thanks > >Katan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] RIP: AOL kills Netscape
> No, Microsoft killed Netscape. AOL just stopped paying for life support. Actually the pay for Netscape model killed Netscape. Free that works will always garner more users. By the time Netscape responded, IE had the market. Of course AOL for quite some time relied on the gecko engine as the basis for Netscape, meaning that it was just a slightly different flavor than the rest of the Mozilla offerings. For a long time, no new versions came out. Of course we're also talking about the same folks who refused to create an AOL client based on the gecko engine, then giving up Internet Exploder as the browsing engine for AOL too. I know stupidity when I saw it, and AOL hasn't really been good at predicting the market since dialup faded. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Quickbooks and MD taxes
Many of you living in Maryland know that the sales tax rate is going up from 5% to 6%. Those of you that don't: SURPRISE! I've been tasked with changing the rate in Quickbooks. While I can change the rate--it's easy enough--Maryland's tax table doesn't exactly jibe with a real 6% rate. MD says, for instance, that the tax on $1.01-$1.16 is $.07. Quickbooks, however, says that $.07 tax is between $1.09-$1.24. Is there any way to make Quickbooks conform to Maryland's math? Thanks Katan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] RIP: AOL kills Netscape
Sea Monkey is pretty much equivalent to what Navigator was and should be a better fit. On Dec 31, 2007 9:44 AM, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In an announcement posted to AOL's blog for the browser, Tom Drapeau, the > director of the company's Netscape brand, said the team is ending > development and would cease issuing security updates as of Feb. 1, 2008. > > "Given AOL's current business focus and the success the Mozilla Foundation > has had in developing critically-acclaimed products, we feel it's the right > time to end development of Netscape-branded browsers, hand the reigns [sic] > fully to Mozilla and encourage Netscape users to adopt Firefox," Drapeau > said. > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&arti > cleId=9054521&intsrc=hm_list > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Are Passwords Obsolete?
>It would also seem possible to write code that requires the system to >wait, say five seconds, before another attempt at a correct password may >be made, thus making a dictionary attack impossibly long. Pre OS X Apple servers would double the delay time each time you entered an incorrect password. I thought this was an elegant solution. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] External hard drives bkup/ online vaulting
>1. If I, as a careful and meticulous user, have identified the most >important data on a day-to-day basis, and have a way of backing up and >restoring just that data, then I could probably back it up and restore it >across the Internet. Should not the computer be able to figure this out by monitoring your file access patterns? Something as simple as "any file opened more than once a day" or "anything in a folder that meets the previous rule" should do the job. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?
On Dec 30, 2007, at 8:41 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: A friend of mine does TV commercials. She uses Audacity, http://audacity.sourceforge.net/, for sound recording, mixing and editing [AIFF uncompressed], and Final Cut Pro for video. For what it is worth, I have been using Audacity for a few years now. Version 1.2.6 for the Macintosh works very well. Version 1.3.3 for the Mac does not work as well. It is still considered a beta upgrade and the audio files it creates clearly have a bit of noise associated with them that is absent in version 1.2.6. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] RIP: AOL kills Netscape
>In an announcement posted to AOL's blog for the browser, Tom Drapeau, the >director of the company's Netscape brand, said the team is ending >development and would cease issuing security updates as of Feb. 1, 2008. No, Microsoft killed Netscape. AOL just stopped paying for life support. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] RIP: AOL kills Netscape
In an announcement posted to AOL's blog for the browser, Tom Drapeau, the director of the company's Netscape brand, said the team is ending development and would cease issuing security updates as of Feb. 1, 2008. "Given AOL's current business focus and the success the Mozilla Foundation has had in developing critically-acclaimed products, we feel it's the right time to end development of Netscape-branded browsers, hand the reigns [sic] fully to Mozilla and encourage Netscape users to adopt Firefox," Drapeau said. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&arti cleId=9054521&intsrc=hm_list * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived