Re: [CGUYS] Cable Fights FIOS with Lies

2008-06-26 Thread David K Watson

We have finally decided to move to Verizon FIOS.  Verizon has
been pushing it hard in my area, even going so far as to send
door-to-door salespeople, which ordinarily ups my sales resistance,
but inthis case I have finally been persuaded.

Verizon is offering to replace our landline, cable and internet service
for about as much as we are paying Comcast for our cable and
internet, so we will essentially be saving the cost of our home phone
service.  Furthermore, if we merge our cell phone bill (already with
Verizon) with the FIOS bill, they have promised to take 20% off that.
We can pay an extra $5/month to lock in these rates for two years,
and will have 90 days to rescind service without penalty.  The basic
cable lineup we will get is also better than what comcast provides.

Even if there turn out to be a few small gotchas in the details, I am
fed up with Comcast's service.  They can't even properly manage
their core competency as a cable provider properly.  I see pixellation
on the digital channels daily.  Also, they can't seem to grasp the fact
that people like to watch particular channels, so they routinely move
channels around (usually swapping analogue to digital in order to
gain bandwidth) and neglect to tell anyone where they have moved.
They could use their cable box messaging for this purpose, but
instead only use it for promotions.  As for the internet service,
it has gotten very slow lately, and I can't listen to any internet
streaming without lots of buffering.  I have gone through this before,
and I am sure that it is because the addition of new customers
to our local node have overloaded it and things will get better when
Comcast gets around to putting in some new hardware, but as Tom
has pointed out, their service on the other end with email etc.
is likewise terrible.

David

On Jun 26, 2008, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system  
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Subject: Re: Cable Fights FIOS with Lies

I like the last bit about Verizon running misleading ads regarding
compressed and uncompressed video.

Personally I don't care if they lay kewpie dolls from end to end, I  
care

about the end result and cost.

Mike



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Re: [CGUYS] Cable Fights FIOS with Lies

2008-06-26 Thread gerald
http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/03/31/comcast-degrades-hd.html

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008271

i have comcast in dc.  my sister has fios in dallas, which was very much 
better.  

the differences i saw in the tv images was considerable.  almost the same as 
the spread between regular and hd on a dvd.

the ball at tennis is no longer round, and is fuzzy on comcast.

for internet service comcast  is much more than adequate for home and small 
office.

At 10:01 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
>Cable ads attacking Verizon confuse consumers
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080621/ap_on_hi_te/tec_cable_vs_fiber_ads
>
>Cable companies are running ads with a curiously similar message, 
>emphasizing that cable networks "are" fiber-optic, even though none of 
>the companies draw fiber all the way to the home, like Verizon does in 
>most cases when it installs FiOS. This allows for higher Internet speeds 
>and, according to Consumer Reports, better picture quality. 
>
>"Cable is deploying the rhetoric instead of the technology," said Verizon 
>spokeswoman Bobbi Henson. 
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Re: [CGUYS] Cable Fights FIOS with Lies

2008-06-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Let the product do the talking and let the marketplace decide is
>my philosophy.

Looks to me like engineer logic, but the market works with marketing 
logic. That is why this story caught my attention. The marketeers list 
features that are irrelevant to how their product performs and swift boat 
the competition with bizarre claims.  


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Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
Deadline passed and I see we've been hoodwinked by Dell. While XP Home is 
now no longer available thay are selling PCs with XP Pro on the hard 
drive and a Vista DVD in the box. So this is actually an even better buy 
than the deal they terminated last week. Two versions of the OS for the 
price of one.

The engineer in me hates being lied to by vendors.


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Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-26 Thread mike
I guess I wasn't following this as closely as you, hoodwinked how?

Mike

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Deadline passed and I see we've been hoodwinked by Dell. While XP Home is
> now no longer available thay are selling PCs with XP Pro on the hard
> drive and a Vista DVD in the box. So this is actually an even better buy
> than the deal they terminated last week. Two versions of the OS for the
> price of one.
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> The engineer in me hates being lied to by vendors.
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Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
As I read it retail sales of XP ended this month.  It is still 
allowed to be sold with system till sometime this fall.


Also it will be allowed to be included on economy systems.  (Under a 
certain dollar value)


It is closer to MS caving into demand that Dell misleading.  I 
believe that MS has changed their tune many times this year on XP.


(Also note Tom you need to be buying Business systems I think to get 
what you are getting, retail out the door systems do not have XP on them.)


Stewart


At 07:34 PM 6/26/2008, you wrote:

I guess I wasn't following this as closely as you, hoodwinked how?

Mike

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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[CGUYS] Just another cell phone service question

2008-06-26 Thread Paula Minor
Have any of you used the Credo (formerly Working Assets) cellular  
network?  What are your impressions of it's reliability?

Thanks

Paula
IN/USA
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather  
to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body  
thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a  
ride!" Have a wonderful day!








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