Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test
We could always do the standard marco, polo to make sure we are still live...or ping, pong like irc. Mac... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to see if it's working is SPAM. Two solutions. One, just wait until someone else starts a new thread. Second, try to start one yourself with any list-related comment or question. Just checking to see if this is coming through. Will someone please reply so I know that this is working? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Report: Sky Not Falling
I'm starting to think Steve Jobs needs to start calling himself Steve Jones. For a second there, my mind inserted Tom's name instead of Steve's. Tom as a Sex Pistol? Heh. Tommy Rotten? [giggle] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test
Another approach is to check these archives: http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-lr=1w=2 If the list is truly down (which has happened at least once this year) the lack of recent posts should be obvious. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:32 AM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could always do the standard marco, polo to make sure we are still live...or ping, pong like irc. Mac... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to see if it's working is SPAM. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] wash post on laptops
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081303480.html guy is sort of a pc leaning person, really dumps on Vista. if i knew now how big a pain vista would be, i would have purchased a mac, in spite of the very large price difference. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Images imbedded in Eudora with Vista
when someone like circuit city,ecost, buy.com include images in their emails, i get the images. when my email friends send pictures that they have imbedded, i get the area marked off, and a small red x in the upper left hand corner of the box. eudoria 7.1.xxx , foxfire 3 and vista with latest upgrade sp3? on a plenty big enough machine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] My Macintosh saga...a small addendum
Apple has waived any monetary charges, which I thought I'd have to pay, in the settling of how to handle the failure of my out-of- warranty, 2003 Powerbook. At a minimum, they could have charged me for diagnosing the cause of the failure, which turned out to be the logic board. As I previously reported, they are replacing my old Powerbook with a new MacBook Pro. They returned the Powerbook to me from their repair facility in Austin so that I could retrieve data from the hard drive, which I had to pull to accomplish that task. They also have arranged for the Powerbook to be returned to them, at their expense. As soon as FedEx informs them that they have picked up the Powerbook, the new computer will be shipped out to me. Apple is good. Very good. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] wash post on laptops
In your next email you mention using eudora. I'm wondering what sort of pain Vista was. I've been using it since SP 1 came out and have had no problems at all with it. I'm wondering if part of the problems you may be experiencing could be related to software not updated for Vista? Eudora is clearly not supported in any way past XP, so I wonder what other software you are using that could be causing issues. When I switched to Vista I took this oppourtunity to go thru all my software and upgrade where needed and even changed what apps I use for some things...like nero for imgburn. Just a thought. Most people I've found who have problems with Vista either had problems with XP also, or are trying to use old software. Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:48 AM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081303480.html guy is sort of a pc leaning person, really dumps on Vista. if i knew now how big a pain vista would be, i would have purchased a mac, in spite of the very large price difference. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
How much data currently do you archive? How much are you increasing over X amount of time? How often do you have to access archived data as opposed to current data, or do you access it as opposed to just store it? Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:16 AM, David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We're having some discussions about archiving digital files. Currently, certain files are backed up onto DVD's. We're wondering if we can move to larger capacity external hard drives instead. Our entire system gets a digital tape back-up performed by an outside company, but there can be a 2-3 day delay in getting files from them. This is just for my department, not institution-wide. I've checked the NARA's website ( put a call in to them), but I couldn't find any recent (in the last 5 years) recommendations. tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] wash post on laptops
In your next email you mention using eudora. I'm wondering what sort of pain Vista was. I've been using it since SP 1 came out and have had no problems at all with it Yeah, I was going to send the same basic message but I didn't want to sound like a broken record with What problems exactly did you have with Vista? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
About 15-20GB every 2-3 months. This will probably increase to about 20-25GB over the next few months, as several new projects will be starting. Some archived files get accessed every few weeks. The idea was to take the stress off the network drives (the largest of which is 700GB), but still have the files readily available to staff. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:59 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving How much data currently do you archive? How much are you increasing over X amount of time? How often do you have to access archived data as opposed to current data, or do you access it as opposed to just store it? Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:16 AM, David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We're having some discussions about archiving digital files. Currently, certain files are backed up onto DVD's. We're wondering if we can move to larger capacity external hard drives instead. Our entire system gets a digital tape back-up performed by an outside company, but there can be a 2-3 day delay in getting files from them. This is just for my department, not institution-wide. I've checked the NARA's website ( put a call in to them), but I couldn't find any recent (in the last 5 years) recommendations. tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
To me, backups and archives are different. Archives are accessible. Backups are stored where they are completely protected by an air gap or better -- at least one set should be. Why not just add another network drive or two for the archives? If appropriate, keep the archive drives turned off unless someone needs them. One accesses network drives directly, not on/through a server, or at least such drives exist in many forms. And back up the archives just like you back up the servers, except you don't need to do it with great regularity. Fred Holmes At 12:33 PM 8/14/2008, David Turk wrote: About 15-20GB every 2-3 months. This will probably increase to about 20-25GB over the next few months, as several new projects will be starting. Some archived files get accessed every few weeks. The idea was to take the stress off the network drives (the largest of which is 700GB), but still have the files readily available to staff. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:59 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving How much data currently do you archive? How much are you increasing over X amount of time? How often do you have to access archived data as opposed to current data, or do you access it as opposed to just store it? Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:16 AM, David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We're having some discussions about archiving digital files. Currently, certain files are backed up onto DVD's. We're wondering if we can move to larger capacity external hard drives instead. Our entire system gets a digital tape back-up performed by an outside company, but there can be a 2-3 day delay in getting files from them. This is just for my department, not institution-wide. I've checked the NARA's website ( put a call in to them), but I couldn't find any recent (in the last 5 years) recommendations. tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test
Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to see if it's working is SPAM. Two solutions. One, just wait until someone else starts a new thread. Second, try to start one yourself with any list-related comment or question. Richard, A sincere question isn't spam. Tony's solutions are good in spite of his first comment. Another thing you can do is to check the list archives and list of recent posts at http://www.cguys.org/. Or you might want to send a private message to a less hostile list member. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, backups and archives are different. Archives are accessible. Backups are stored where they are completely protected by an air gap or better -- at least one set should be. Why not just add another network drive or two for the archives? If appropriate, keep the archive drives turned off unless someone needs them. One accesses network drives directly, not on/through a server, or at least such drives exist in many forms. Not that it matters (why would I spend time answering an important question? g), but Typical use of the terms by storage experts is along these lines: Online. Files accessible immediately. Could be local, could be a network drive, could be a SAN, could be on a web page, but immediately accessible without any other steps. Archived. Not immediately accessible. Requires some step to make it accessible. Again, could be stored on almost any kind of media, from tape to DVD to hard drive to SAN to whatever. A request is made to make the archived files or data sets available online for a period of time, so the user can access them. Offloads files which are no longer accessed regularly, reducing load on the online file storage systems. Backup. A copy of some files or data sets that can be used to restore the originals in case of a problem. Orthogonal to the first two. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
About 2-3 years ago, I worked on a proposal for Gov't Printing Office. Even by then, organizations with large storage needs learned to distinguish between on-line with quick access (very fast SAN/RAID with 10-15K RPM Enterprise disks) and online storage that was still mostly enterprise quality, but slower and cheaper as a second-tier form of storage. For simpler needs, 1.5 TB capacity disk drives are available. Might make a nice middle layer between fast-access and archive/backup. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Typical use of the terms by storage experts is along these lines: Online. Files accessible immediately. Could be local, could be a network drive, could be a SAN, could be on a web page, but immediately accessible without any other steps. Archived. Not immediately accessible. Requires some step to make it accessible. Again, could be stored on almost any kind of media, from tape to DVD to hard drive to SAN to whatever. A request is made to make the archived files or data sets available online for a period of time, so the user can access them. Offloads files which are no longer accessed regularly, reducing load on the online file storage systems. Backup. A copy of some files or data sets that can be used to restore the originals in case of a problem. Orthogonal to the first two. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test
There's nothing hostile about educating people on how mailing lists work. How are they supposed to learn if no one tells them? He _sent_ spam to the list, I _told_ him he sent spam to the list, and offered suggestions how to avoid same in future. No hostility intended or included; it's all in your mind. Every time the list goes quiet the number of posts asking if the list is working rises exponentially daily, and there's no need for it. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you might want to send a private message to a less hostile list member. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
I agree... the fast online data backup/ access is expensive and the slow online storage reasonable and for now the twain shan't meet. But as long as you are looking to add retrieval speed and continue the tape bkup you referred to, and considering that hardware is relatively cheap these days, a server with a SATA RAID controller card (3ware brand?) and some drive trays full of the appropriate number of 1.5 Terra byte disks would give you the real time retrieval of your data. With the controller card, you could run RAID 5 with 4 or more drives if you like so that your system could survive auto rebuild a drive failure (not so uncommon with large SATA drives) but you wouldn't even need RAID to as long as you have the tape backup. The key is not to invest too much labor/ money in this type of system and with the redundant tape backup you don't have to. If you drop the tape backup however ... then you are into a whole different kettle of fish. You have to have fail safe server redundancy that includes offsite dataset storage... and that is technically complex, laborious and expensive to do yourself for a real time operation... and as was noted at the start ... with commercial online services it is either expensive or slow. But you might want to do a cost analysis. By the time all is calculated, you might find it as cheap and a lot easier to not create an additional local server bkup, drop the tape backup and just contract for a commercial fast retrieval online bkup service. It also allows you to keep things simple and to remain focused on your own biz, rather than IT support. There are no magic bullets in this backup game... only various choices that have various consequences. Time, money and labor are your factors in the decision and labor is really either time or money. db Snyder, Mark (IT CIV) wrote: About 2-3 years ago, I worked on a proposal for Gov't Printing Office. Even by then, organizations with large storage needs learned to distinguish between on-line with quick access (very fast SAN/RAID with 10-15K RPM Enterprise disks) and online storage that was still mostly enterprise quality, but slower and cheaper as a second-tier form of storage. For simpler needs, 1.5 TB capacity disk drives are available. Might make a nice middle layer between fast-access and archive/backup. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Typical use of the terms by storage experts is along these lines: Online. Files accessible immediately. Could be local, could be a network drive, could be a SAN, could be on a web page, but immediately accessible without any other steps. Archived. Not immediately accessible. Requires some step to make it accessible. Again, could be stored on almost any kind of media, from tape to DVD to hard drive to SAN to whatever. A request is made to make the archived files or data sets available online for a period of time, so the user can access them. Offloads files which are no longer accessed regularly, reducing load on the online file storage systems. Backup. A copy of some files or data sets that can be used to restore the originals in case of a problem. Orthogonal to the first two. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
This is what I was thinking...an inexpensive RAID solution. Or if you have a little more cash, Drobo. www.drobo.com Drobo is a RAID box that handles all the pesky RAID stuff for you, allowing you to put any size hard drives in the box. Most RAIDS need same size HD's across the board. So if you already have some HD's laying around, you just need the box. I've not heard anything negative about what they are doing. Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT CIV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 2-3 years ago, I worked on a proposal for Gov't Printing Office. Even by then, organizations with large storage needs learned to distinguish between on-line with quick access (very fast SAN/RAID with 10-15K RPM Enterprise disks) and online storage that was still mostly enterprise quality, but slower and cheaper as a second-tier form of storage. For simpler needs, 1.5 TB capacity disk drives are available. Might make a nice middle layer between fast-access and archive/backup. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Typical use of the terms by storage experts is along these lines: Online. Files accessible immediately. Could be local, could be a network drive, could be a SAN, could be on a web page, but immediately accessible without any other steps. Archived. Not immediately accessible. Requires some step to make it accessible. Again, could be stored on almost any kind of media, from tape to DVD to hard drive to SAN to whatever. A request is made to make the archived files or data sets available online for a period of time, so the user can access them. Offloads files which are no longer accessed regularly, reducing load on the online file storage systems. Backup. A copy of some files or data sets that can be used to restore the originals in case of a problem. Orthogonal to the first two. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test
Quoting Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's nothing hostile about educating people on how mailing lists work. How are they supposed to learn if no one tells them? He _sent_ spam to the list, I _told_ him he sent spam to the list, and offered suggestions how to avoid same in future. No hostility intended or included; it's all in your mind. That may be, but I would hardly call it spam. He was (presumably) asking if the list was down. According to Wikipedia: Spam has several definitions, varying by the source. * Unsolicited bulk e-mail (UBE)?unsolicited e-mail, sent in large quantities. * Unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE)?this more restrictive definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission. * Any email message that is fraudulent.[citation needed] * Any email message where the sender?s identity is forged, or messages sent though unprotected SMTP servers, unauthorized proxies, or botnets. Let's see: *He did send his message to *everybody* on the list. But so did you. *I didn't see a sales pitch in there. *Maybe he wasn't *really* trying to find out if the list was down. *He did use a Gmail account, so maybe he's not who he claims to be. Every time the list goes quiet the number of posts asking if the list is working rises exponentially daily, and there's no need for it. If that were the case, the list wouldn't really be quiet, now, would it? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test
Clarification: I had tried both of these suggestions, prior to sending out a confirmation test request. I did start a new thread (Registry Error, 8/11/08), to which no one had responded. While I could see other's posts, I could not see my own post in my Gmail account. In trying to see whether my posts were in fact going through, I posted the Test message. Some posters replied, allowing me to find see it, as well as how Gmail interprets these posts. Up until this point, I didn't realize that Gmail won't show my posts until someone replies to it (something I just do not understand, but that's a subject for another day). Had I been able to post the original content through my Cox account, the test would not have been necessary. But given that the Cox account keeps getting bumped by the list, I had to start using a Gmail account. Sorry if my method of troubleshooting this issue have been upsetting to some, but I did what I thought best. Thanks to those who helped me sort this all out. Perhaps I'll need to go back to Remedial Internet Ettiquette school after this (smile) Richard P. Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to see if it's working is SPAM. Two solutions. One, just wait until someone else starts a new thread. Second, try to start one yourself with any list-related comment or question. Just checking to see if this is coming through. Will someone please reply so I know that this is working? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving
Everyone likes the drobo roboticized virtual RAID concept but it is expensive by the time you have bought the drives... and if you read the reviews: http://review.zdnet.com/external-hard-drives/drobo-second-generation-2tb/4505-3190_16-33142477.html http://bigpcgeek.com/blog/2008/02/01/data-robotics-drobo-review/ http://reviews.cnet.com/external-hard-drives/drobo/4864-3190_7-32470303.html?messageID=2470677 its reliability is problematic and it is not offsite so for both reasons it can't be used professionally without the tape backup or other archiving protection. So what real solution does it provide re: time/ money? Why not just use the money to pay for a fast commercial online backup/ filesharing service and leave the driving totally to someone else? Can anyone using such a service comment? db mike wrote: This is what I was thinking...an inexpensive RAID solution. Or if you have a little more cash, Drobo. www.drobo.com Drobo is a RAID box that handles all the pesky RAID stuff for you, allowing you to put any size hard drives in the box. Most RAIDS need same size HD's across the board. So if you already have some HD's laying around, you just need the box. I've not heard anything negative about what they are doing. Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT CIV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 2-3 years ago, I worked on a proposal for Gov't Printing Office. Even by then, organizations with large storage needs learned to distinguish between on-line with quick access (very fast SAN/RAID with 10-15K RPM Enterprise disks) and online storage that was still mostly enterprise quality, but slower and cheaper as a second-tier form of storage. For simpler needs, 1.5 TB capacity disk drives are available. Might make a nice middle layer between fast-access and archive/backup. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Typical use of the terms by storage experts is along these lines: Online. Files accessible immediately. Could be local, could be a network drive, could be a SAN, could be on a web page, but immediately accessible without any other steps. Archived. Not immediately accessible. Requires some step to make it accessible. Again, could be stored on almost any kind of media, from tape to DVD to hard drive to SAN to whatever. A request is made to make the archived files or data sets available online for a period of time, so the user can access them. Offloads files which are no longer accessed regularly, reducing load on the online file storage systems. Backup. A copy of some files or data sets that can be used to restore the originals in case of a problem. Orthogonal to the first two. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Registry Error
I'll bite. What have we proved? errr proven? If I got that error I would just restore last night's image. Take me about 15 minutes to restore my C drive to where it was at 7pm last night. All my apps and data on my D and M drives would still be fine. Who knows what might have caused it? Bytes on hard drives disappear all the time. Don't ever rely on hard drives for long term storage. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm responding to this to prove a point about Gmail. Maybe one our Windows experts will help you with your question. My relative's Windows PC has come up this morning with a registry error (Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM) and the computer is recommending repair. Is there a way to save the system, data, and programs or are we beyond this point? What might cause this to have happened? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Frankenstein iPod
My 20GB iPod's hard drive died. Since the Toshiba 40/60/80GB 1.8-inch drives are very close to the same dimensions, could the mobo in the old iPod handle a bigger drive? I have several dead or dying iPods, mostly due to abuse [dropped into water, held/swung by cable instead of in hand, left outside in weather too long, or given to me for dissection/examination after they died] and was considering combining the working parts into a Frankenstein iPod. All are long out of warranty. One is an HP iPod that the Apple Store genius was nice enough to diagnose for me. Otherwise, each dead iPod is worth $25 trade in, unless I can fix them myself without spending more than that. Thanks Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Registry Error
I had this problem after several power outages and aborted restarts. I found this recovery method: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545 Essentially, I just copied the SYSTEM file from the repair subdir to the CONFIG subdir and came up just fine. (Saved my ass, as I don't do system backups.) Tony B wrote: I'll bite. What have we proved? errr proven? If I got that error I would just restore last night's image. Take me about 15 minutes to restore my C drive to where it was at 7pm last night. All my apps and data on my D and M drives would still be fine. Who knows what might have caused it? Bytes on hard drives disappear all the time. Don't ever rely on hard drives for long term storage. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm responding to this to prove a point about Gmail. Maybe one our Windows experts will help you with your question. My relative's Windows PC has come up this morning with a registry error (Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM) and the computer is recommending repair. Is there a way to save the system, data, and programs or are we beyond this point? What might cause this to have happened? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test
So what is the harm of a test message? It isn't trying to defraud the recipient. It takes no significant space on the hard drive. The delete key readily dispatches it. The eye readily skips over it. The word test is readily filtered for blocking if you really don't want to see such messages at all. It's just your secular religion's value system that says that test messages aren't to be sent. I for one couldn't care less if test messages are sent. I think your message complaining about the test message is a lot more irritating than the test message itself. If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. If my fellow list member's anxiety is relieved by sending a test message, I'm happy to receive the test message and thereby relieve his anxiety. Fred Holmes At 04:51 PM 8/14/2008, Tony B wrote: There's nothing hostile about educating people on how mailing lists work. How are they supposed to learn if no one tells them? He _sent_ spam to the list, I _told_ him he sent spam to the list, and offered suggestions how to avoid same in future. No hostility intended or included; it's all in your mind. Every time the list goes quiet the number of posts asking if the list is working rises exponentially daily, and there's no need for it. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you might want to send a private message to a less hostile list member. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
