[CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Christopher Range

I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or, YouTube.

Is there a freeware version that will allow me to do that?

The video is at this link: 
http://tbn.org/watch/files/index.php?file=2009_1_26_300k.wmvshow=92 
http://tbn.org/watch/files/index.php?file=2009_1_26_300k.wmvshow=92


It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and, 
the video is 30mins. long.


RSVP ASAP

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Re: [CGUYS] Remote login tool /

2009-04-14 Thread Andy Gallant
Would LogMeIn work for what you want?  At https://secure.logmein.com/ it 
says, Access your PCs or Macs from Anywhere.  There is a free version.



db wrote:
Sorry that I am always asking for OS X recommendations but never the 
less ... here is another one:


If I wanted to be able to login and remotely control an OS X iMac 
(Leopard) from a XP win PC is that possible and if so what application 
would be best for that purpose?


(I think Timbucktu is only used for remote login between Macs?)

db



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Re: [CGUYS] Macbook Pro right mouse in XP?

2009-04-14 Thread Fred Jones

What mouse are you using?


I'm using the mouse on the trackpad. I found a setting in Bootcamp to enable 
the secondary mouse button so I now have right click functionality. 

Thanks. 









From:   Matthew Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com
Date:  Monday, April 13, 2009 08:49 pm
Subject:  Re: [CGUYS] Macbook Pro right mouse in XP? 


No special software should be needed. I use a logitech trackman
marble (a track ball) and have used mice as well. They just worked.
What mouse are you using? 


If you are doing a p2v conversion of an already activated copy it
should not prove an issue. One good way is to hook up an external
drive and p2v it under Windows (with VMware's free utility) to that
drive. Then just copy the VM over to your Mac once back in OS X. 


Matthew


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Cannon
Well there are google links that show you how to do it with VLC.
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic316907.html

I googled this but I have never used it 
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/web_video_capture.html
So I have no idea if the product works.

I was able to capture the stream in linux using 
http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/mimms/

The url you posted points to a .asf file
which then points to 
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/tbn/behindthescenes/2009_1_26_300k.wvx;

the url 
in the file 
mms://sos1557-1-wm.edgestreams.net/behindthescenes/.uid.McMCAQBH1t2ysQ2ptAa134f114d2cc1447dbd59b646a4dabee.2009_1_26_300k.wmv?auth=caEanbUbZdYaebLamb.b7aEaObycEbnb9dK-bj5hUU-eS-EDGokyrwtzHxqswoaifp=0001

in my case contains some sort of login which will allow you to stream it for a 
certain amount of time.
I was then able to use mimms to capture the stream - it seems to be around 68 
Mb or so.

Good luck!


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:10:55AM -0400, Christopher Range wrote:
 I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or, YouTube.

 Is there a freeware version that will allow me to do that?

 The video is at this link:  
 http://tbn.org/watch/files/index.php?file=2009_1_26_300k.wmvshow=92  
 http://tbn.org/watch/files/index.php?file=2009_1_26_300k.wmvshow=92

 It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and,  
 the video is 30mins. long.

 RSVP ASAP

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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread b_s-wilk

The reason I asked this is because a couple times a year, I'll get a
publisher document. I have to use MS Windows (I use Virtual PC, since
I have a PPC based Mac) in order to open it.  I'm just trying to
avoid MS Windows.  If I had an Intel based Mac, I'd still be trying
to avoid using MS Windows. If I open it with Publisher using Virtual
PC I can make it into a PDF, but I'm trying to avoid opening it with
Publisher using Virtual PC in the first place. Is there a Publisher
reader for the Mac?


Anything you can do in MS Publisher you can do as well, actually better, 
in Word. Neither is WYSIWYG, but at least Word has standards. If you can 
get your clients/friends to give you Word documents instead, that's the 
better solution. Publisher is yet another example of Microsoft copying 
good programs, doing it very poorly, and making output proprietary so 
that it won't work with any other program or platform--and it can't 
produce a output for quality printing. Is that killing their 
competition, or shooting themselves in the foot/head, or plain 
incompetence, appealing to customers who don't have a reason to know 
better? At least Quark XPress and Adobe InDesign can import each others' 
files, and they're designed for real publishing. Pages can output PDFs.


I've found that most Windows programs run very well in emulation. I used 
Virtual PC from v.2 through its demise [by Microsoft, naturally]. 
Darwine is a good solution too. It's not an emulator. It will run 
Windows programs without installing or running Windows by providing the 
APIs instead of the full OS.


This is the Microsoft solution, 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA102339061033.aspx. It 
might even work in WINE or Darwine. You'll like it. It involves 
downloading a free trial version of Pubisher, then throwing it away 
before it expires.


Free is good [donate if you like the programs]! For Intel Macs, use 
WINE, http://www.winehq.org/. For PPC Macs, use Darwine, 
http://darwine.sourceforge.net/download.php


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread b_s-wilk
I'm looking at the video in SeaMonkey on my Mac, using Flip4Mac. For 
this kind of video, I simply let it play through, then save the page, 
saving the video, since it's the only thing on the page. This is much 
easier than saving flash videos.


You could also right-click on the originating link and select Save or 
Save Link Target As... Try doing this from webmail if you don't have the 
originating page URL. It will work, and it's easy. Don't make an easy 
task difficult by assuming that it will be hard to do.


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Anything you can do in MS Publisher you can do as well, actually better, 
in Word.

Word only handles RGB colors and printing presses use CMYK inks. 
Publisher finally added the ability to use CMYK, but I believe it did not 
do it well.

To use Word you would have to rely on work arounds, like printing to PDF 
and then converting colors in Acrobat. This can cause colors to shift, 
but anyone dumb enough to use Publisher is unlikely to notice.

Microsoft claims Publisher is the #1 selling page layout program. 
Publisher is just one more example of low-quality Microsoft software 
lapped up by idiots. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or, YouTube.
It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and, 
the video is 30mins. long.

I hope you are not asking how to avoid Microsoft's DRM. Answering that 
would be criminal.


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[CGUYS] MS Publisher

2009-04-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Publisher is a low end publishing program.

I use it all the time for small booklets and bulletins.

I would never compare it to nor say it is a replacement for Adobe's 
Pagemaker or now Indesign.


When I have complicated page layout/publishing requirements I go back 
to and use Pagemaker (I have never upgraded)


Many low end companies do use Publisher as it is easy cheap and meets 
their requirements.


Not everyone needs a Pagemaker/Indesign/Quark express to design some 
slick looking flyers etc.


I knew one print shop that used Corel for their page layout 
program.  I could never understand it.


So Publisher is what it is nothing more nothing less.  It is not a 
high end page layout program.


Stewart

At 09:56 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:

Anything you can do in MS Publisher you can do as well, actually better,
in Word.

Word only handles RGB colors and printing presses use CMYK inks.
Publisher finally added the ability to use CMYK, but I believe it did not
do it well.

To use Word you would have to rely on work arounds, like printing to PDF
and then converting colors in Acrobat. This can cause colors to shift,
but anyone dumb enough to use Publisher is unlikely to notice.

Microsoft claims Publisher is the #1 selling page layout program.
Publisher is just one more example of low-quality Microsoft software
lapped up by idiots.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Is there a Publisher reader for the Mac?

Best solution is to save it as a PDF on the Windows PC. The open it in 
InDesign using a conversion plug in like PDF2ID.

The InDesign User Group has a special offer: If you'd like to purchase 
PDF2ID at a discount, go to www.recosoft.com/pdf2id_dc_special.htm.


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Cannon
Um Tom, I understand that you are Mac Advocate.

Please see 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc251059.aspx

They have released the protocol.

Please read 
http://sdp.ppona.com/
So what is MMS all about?
MMS or ' Microsoft Media Server ' protocol is Microsoft's proprietary network 
streaming protocol. Microsoft never released a specification to describe how 
MMS actually works (until 2008), yet it is extensively used by their Microsoft 
media player software. MMS protocol can be used on top of TCP and UDP transport 
protocols over any network medium. Its primary use is to stream live or 
prerecorded audio and video content to your computer without any need to 
download a file before playing. Microsoft has now stopped using MMS in its 
newer software like Streaming server 2008 and Media player v11.


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:59:21AM -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote:
 I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or, YouTube.
 It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and, 
 the video is 30mins. long.
 
 I hope you are not asking how to avoid Microsoft's DRM. Answering that 
 would be criminal.
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread mike
Careful of Tom's knees, they are at it again.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or,
 YouTube.
 It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and,
 the video is 30mins. long.

 I hope you are not asking how to avoid Microsoft's DRM. Answering that
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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Um Tom, I understand that you are Mac Advocate.

Hardly. I'm consistently a good product advocate. Our Microsoft minders 
want to change the subject and attack the messenger.

I would be no less critical of attempts to break Apple's DRM, though 
Apple seems to be phasing it out -- even removing activation checks from 
iWork.

Please see 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc251059.aspx
They have released the protocol.

I'm glad to know that has changed. 

For you to be critical of me for tyring to keep things legal does not 
reflect well on you.


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Cannon
I admit I have little to no experience with Apple products.  
The one home computer that I have Vista pre-installed on works well and I have 
no complaints.
I was lazy and bought that HP system, well I lied I do have one complaint the 
amount of trialware and other pre-installed s/w took me a 
significant amount of time to remove.

I primarily use Fedora at home and RHEL at work; so I consider myself in the 
camp whatever tool works.

I prefer open formats and specifications but I am a realist. 
Even Apple has done things that make me scratch my head, e.g. making it 
harder to download/save a movie trailer.

 
I found the last few weeks of computerguys discussion, the whole 
netbook/macbook/laptop discussion was amusing to me since I doubt I would ever 
own such a device out of fear of dropping it.  Perhaps this fear is misplaced...

I was not trying to be critical of you, just replying factually that MS 
released the protocol information which you should be applauding (in my 
opinion).
My attempt to check the facts reflects well on me or at least I hope so.
As a Linux user, I probably break a few laws daily at home - playing purchased 
DVD's or playing mp3's ripped from 20 yr. old cd's.  
I am willing to take that risk.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:43:08PM -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote:
 Um Tom, I understand that you are Mac Advocate.
 
 Hardly. I'm consistently a good product advocate. Our Microsoft minders 
 want to change the subject and attack the messenger.
 
 I would be no less critical of attempts to break Apple's DRM, though 
 Apple seems to be phasing it out -- even removing activation checks from 
 iWork.
 
 Please see 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc251059.aspx
 They have released the protocol.
 
 I'm glad to know that has changed. 
 
 For you to be critical of me for tyring to keep things legal does not 
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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Cannon
Im confused, the stereotype is for MS to spread FUD.  I always considered Tom 
to be a Apple Advocate.


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:47:32AM -0700, mike wrote:
 Careful of Tom's knees, they are at it again.
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 
  I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or,
  YouTube.
  It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video and,
  the video is 30mins. long.
 
  I hope you are not asking how to avoid Microsoft's DRM. Answering that
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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread mike
I suppose these things are for you to figure out.   Being a linux user what
MS spreads is probably of little consequence to you, as for Tom, you'll get
to know him over time.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Cannon pecan...@bellatlantic.netwrote:

 Im confused, the stereotype is for MS to spread FUD.  I always considered
 Tom to be a Apple Advocate.


 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:47:32AM -0700, mike wrote:
  Careful of Tom's knees, they are at it again.
 
  On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 
   I am trying to capture a video that, is not on MySpace, Google or,
   YouTube.
   It will automatically start Windows Media Player to view the video
 and,
   the video is 30mins. long.
  
   I hope you are not asking how to avoid Microsoft's DRM. Answering that
   would be criminal.
  
  
  
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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
I prefer open formats and specifications but I am a realist. 
Even Apple has done things that make me scratch my head, e.g. making it 
harder to download/save a movie trailer.

Apple has been advocating against DRM for many years. Often that DRM is 
put there as the only way to get content owners to participate. In 
contrast MS has been pushing DRM for years and even made fundamental 
changes to Vista to keep computer owners locked out of their own 
computers. They have been a bit of a quisling, taking money from 
customers for their software and then delivering us up to the RIAA.

I was not trying to be critical of you, just replying factually that MS 
released the protocol information which you should be applauding (in my 
opinion).

That was very useful information that I had missed. I'm very supportive 
of MS changing their ways. Unfortunately they seem to have made the 
information public as they were also announcing that they were abandoning 
the format.

My attempt to check the facts reflects well on me or at least I hope so.

Very much appreciated. Facts are especially appreciated when they are 
true.


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread b_s-wilk
Anything you can do in MS Publisher you can do as well, actually better, 
in Word.


Word only handles RGB colors and printing presses use CMYK inks. 
Publisher finally added the ability to use CMYK, but I believe it did not 
do it well.


To use Word you would have to rely on work arounds, like printing to PDF 
and then converting colors in Acrobat. This can cause colors to shift, 
but anyone dumb enough to use Publisher is unlikely to notice.


Doesn't matter that Word only does RGB. People who use Publisher or Word 
will print it on an inkjet or laser printer, not an offset press. Those 
who think either are suitable for offset cause huge headaches for 
printers. In their own offices and homes, they use inkjets that have the 
embedded software or PPDs to convert from RGB to CMYK.


You're answering this as a person who knows about printing, prepress, 
separations. Most people know nothing about printing except that they 
push the print button in the corner of the window to print, then reach 
over to retrieve the printed copy. Or they argue with the print shop 
that their file is good and what's wrong with the print shop!!


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
A good print shop either does it own color separations or prefers tog 
et them in a page layout format such as Pagemaker (now indesign) or Quark.


At least that was the experience I had when I did years ago.

I do most of my own printing nowadays and have no need for the separations.

Stewart

At 03:52 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
Doesn't matter that Word only does RGB. People who use Publisher or 
Word will print it on an inkjet or laser printer, not an offset 
press. Those who think either are suitable for offset cause huge 
headaches for printers. In their own offices and homes, they use 
inkjets that have the embedded software or PPDs to convert from RGB to CMYK.


You're answering this as a person who knows about printing, 
prepress, separations. Most people know nothing about printing 
except that they push the print button in the corner of the window 
to print, then reach over to retrieve the printed copy. Or they 
argue with the print shop that their file is good and what's wrong 
with the print shop!!


Betty


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[CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
You're answering this as a person who knows about printing, prepress, 
separations. Most people know nothing about printing except that they 
push the print button in the corner of the window to print, then reach 
over to retrieve the printed copy. Or they argue with the print shop 
that their file is good and what's wrong with the print shop!!

Just like I answer other questions here as a person who knows about 
technology. Not as a Lauren or a G or a WFB.

You won't get far with me arguing that the world should be made to meet 
the needs of idiots. Following that sort of logic, the non-idiots from 
just over the hill will come over to your place and eat your lunch (while 
your idiots sit helplessy by watching you get screwed).

Would you pick a surgeon who was an idiot? Or for the WFBs: Would you 
pick a surgeon who was an idiot because all the good surgeons charge too 
much?


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Im confused, the stereotype is for MS to spread FUD.  I always considered 
Tom to be a Apple Advocate.

Nope, when Apple screws up I spear them just the same. It only looks like 
I favor Apple because they screw up less often, but that is not my fault.


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread mike
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Prepare for FUD..


Apple has been advocating against DRM for many years. Often that DRM is
 put there as the only way to get content owners to participate. In
 contrast MS has been pushing DRM for years and even made fundamental
 changes to Vista to keep computer owners locked out of their own
 computers. They have been a bit of a quisling, taking money from
 customers for their software and then delivering us up to the RIAA.

 Apple like any company pushes for DRM where it suits them.  the RIAA and
MPAA force the same standards on MS as on Apple.  The reason you heard about
vista and DRM is because MS wants the hardware windows runs on to be
compliant to the MPAA standards so that their customers can play back 1080p
on their televisions.  The DRM built in between blu-ray and the motherboard
to the video card and out HDMI to the monitor is not MS's doing.  So the
statement 'DRM is put there as the only way to get content owners to
participate' applies in this case to MS...but again Tom puts a sinister bent
on the MS side, and happy angel feet for Apple.  Call me when Apple finally
gets BR support on their hardware...rumors say 2010.


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[CGUYS] e74 XBox Photo

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090414/e74_error_(2)_610x457.jpg


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Prepare for FUD..

Thanks for the warning. You should put it at the top of more of your 
posts.


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 Would you pick a surgeon who was an idiot? Or for the WFBs: Would you
 pick a surgeon who was an idiot because all the good surgeons charge
 too
 much?

RAAARGH!! STRAWMAN CRUSH!!

I know I'm not going to waste any more time than needed to deal with your
asinine argument.  There, I'm done.

Here's a question for the non-Bizarro world:  Would you buy a comparable
generic drug over the retail version, if it is shown to be as safe and
effective and only 40% the cost?  (That's 60% less for
percentage-challenged Tom.)


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Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

2009-04-14 Thread mike
So now you are saying Apple has BR support?  Explain which part of my post
was inaccurate.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Prepare for FUD..

 Thanks for the warning. You should put it at the top of more of your
 posts.


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread db

Some sketches and line drawings interspersed/ annotated with text mostly.

Also maybe eventually designing a logo... which might alsorequire a 
simple illustrator type program.


Is there such a critter as a similarly simple/ user friendly 
illustration program for OS X?


db

Ellen Rains Harris wrote:

What do you want to lay out?


- Original Message - From: db db...@att.net
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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?


Can anyone recommend a beginners graphics layout program for the 
Apple platform that is equivalent in simplicity and ease of use as MS 
Publisher?


db


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Here's a question for the non-Bizarro world:  Would you buy a comparable
generic drug over the retail version, if it is shown to be as safe and
effective and only 40% the cost?  (That's 60% less for
percentage-challenged Tom.)

Then how good do you feel when you buy that store brand drug and open the 
package to discover a label inside that says Mfg. by Dr. Tom's Drug 
Emporium and Spa, Baluchistan, Pakistan.

Interested in some low-cost baby formula fortified with melamine?

Can I interest you in some discount peanut butter (no questions asked)?

Or how about, drugs from a mafia-owned supplier who waters down the 
doses? Don't do business with convicted felons!

This is the real world. Not some bizarro wing-nut world where miracle 
cures are freely handed out my Munchkins reclining on lotus petals.

 


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

Would you pick a surgeon who was an idiot because all the good
surgeons charge too much?


Would you buy a comparable generic drug over the retail version, if 
it is shown to be as safe and effective and only 40% the cost?


I'm pretty sure I'd take a bicycle over a fish if I needed to get to work
and wasn't Aquaman.

What in heck are you guys talking about?


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 What in heck are you guys talking about?

I was hoping you knew.


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

What in heck are you guys talking about?



I was hoping you knew.


I'm not willing to devote the effort to a pointless discussion at
this time.


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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Windows Vista]

2009-04-14 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com:


Out of curiosity, why do you keep using the term Windoze?  You used it 3


Really? Tom spews anti-Microsoft vitriol and FUD no end, and you  
complain about this?


Well I am a bit of a reluctant Wind*ows* user (left over from my OS/2  
days). My laziness to learn a new OS is trumping my desire to make a  
change. Probably Linux 'cause Macs are *too expensive*. (-:



it's an attempt to be clever, it seems to me about as lame an attempt as I
can imagine.


How about Winblows?


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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Windows Vista]

2009-04-14 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.com:


What do you suppose that is? I've got it running on three different
versions of Windoze (2K, XP, 7) with no problems whatsoever. It's
slower than molasses on the 2K computer (P3 450), but it runs.


As to why Apple hasn't fixed it: I don't know that either, but if I were a
certain other list member, and it was MS not fixing a broken Mac version of
its software, I would undoubtedly have some very dark claims about its being
intentional.


Maybe they should spend less on advertising and more on software engineering.


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not totally.

Recently (within the last 6 months) a number of generics have been 
recalled and pulled off the market.  (one of them my high blood pressure drugs)


It runs out that all of these are extended or sustained release 
drugs.  The companies can duplicate the medication contained within 
the medication is fine, but the sustained release mechanism 
(encapsulation I believe it is called) is not working properly.


This was first noticed on some generic version of Wellbutrin Sr in 
which patients were complaining that they did not feel as if their 
symptoms were being controlled the same as they were under the name 
brand drug. When studies were undertaken it turned out that the 
generics were not time releasing properly and in many cases were 
giving too much of the drug at the beginning and tapering off too fast.


This happened with my Blood pressure meds this year.  I found out and 
got a letter from my prescription plan that they could not supply my 
meds.  They did not tell me why just that they were unavailable, and 
that I should find a local supply, and then alter on I got a \letter 
telling me to either get back on the name brand or change meds.


I undertook the job of finding out why this transpired.  No notice 
from the FDA, not recall notice from the drug company nor any 
explanation other than what I got in the mail.


Oh if any one says well just go back on the name brand, my 
prescription plan penalizes me if I do so.  It costs me 2.5 times the 
amount a generic costs me if I choose a name brand.  I also cannot 
get a prescription taht is not on my plan or they penalize me even 
more.  (I attempted to get a prescription for some well known drugs 
and I was told my cost for a 14 day supply was $196  needless to say 
I did not get it.)


You just have to know what you are getting and do some checking 
before you get it.


Stewart




At 09:37 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote:

This is not a good analogy. Once the patent expires and market 
exclusivity ends in the pharmaceutical world (at least for the US), 
a generic drug can't come to market until the company can prove to 
an independent regulatory agency (the  FDA) that the drug is equally 
efficacious, has equivalent absorption, pharmacokinetic properties, 
etc. So the consumer can be confident that he is getting something 
equivalent for a lesser price.


I would not have the same level of confidence in cheaper computer 
hardware and software until there is a CSA (Computer and Software 
Administration) evaluating all new hardware and software, which of 
course, is just silly.


- John


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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[CGUYS] CompUSA, the Phoenix

2009-04-14 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
CompUSA Comes Back From the Dead

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/04/compusa-back-fr.html


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[CGUYS] Bandwidth cap mumbo-jumbo?

2009-04-14 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Time Warner Cable Earnings Refute Bandwidth Cap Economics

http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/04/time-warner-cab.html


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Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

2009-04-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
You just have to know what you are getting and do some checking 
before you get it.


Eat fruits, vegetables, fish, nuts and some grain products and olive 
oil.


Drink a little beer and wine and get lots of clean water.

Ride a bicycle daily.

Don't get into gunfights and treat people well.

You won't need any of that pharmaceutical crap.  Maybe an aspirin
or two on rare occasion.

I plan to live to be 100 years old and irritate the hell out of my
relatives. 


If I'm not killed in a bicycle accident or a shooting before then.

47 years to go, I think I can do that.

:-)


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

2009-04-14 Thread b_s-wilk

A good print shop either does it own color separations or prefers tog
et them in a page layout format such as Pagemaker (now indesign) or
Quark.

At least that was the experience I had when I did years ago.

I do most of my own printing nowadays and have no need for the
separations.


Sometimes good print shops get bad files from customers and have to redo 
them almost completely. Then they get hell from the customer who gave 
them a Publisher or Word file, wanting to know why it's so expensive to 
print their files.


More than a few printers I know either completely turn down Publisher 
files or insist on doing the work in-house from scratch instead of 
repairing bad documents. The files can be fixed but the purpose of 
having digital files is so that they're mostly camera ready, ready to 
make plates and print. For things that aren't prepared for press, 
printers are now using digital color printers or photocopiers, but 
without the high quality output they usually do on presses or the 2400 
dpi digital printers.



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