[CGUYS] GMail issue
More on this GMail issue. Almost all areas on the Google site can be reached, such as Google Earth, Google Books, Google Finance, but other areas, such as Google Calendar, Google Documents, Google Reader, and of course, Google GMail cannot be accessed. My browser pops up the window that informs me exactly this: Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.google.com. Though the site seems valid, Camino was unable to establish a connection. * Could the site be temporarily unavailable? Try again later. * Are you unable to browse other sites? Check the computer's network connection. * Is your computer or network protected by a firewall or proxy? Incorrect settings can interfere with Web browsing. +++ I just dunno what the heck. Ditto using Safari. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Gmail issue
I see on the Google Blog that others are having this current Unable to connect problem with GMail. This problem also surfaced back in March, in May and earlier in July, as well as numerous other times in the past. I'll just wait and be patient. This only causes a problem for using the browser to access my account. POP mail to and from GMail is still working fine. I am glad I set that up from the outset. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Google Warning...
Now I am mad. At Google. Yesterday, I downloaded Google Screensaver from Google.. But first, Google wanted to install the 'Google updater' to facilitate the download. This is not unusual, as a downloading program can help reduce overhead on their servers, so I agreed. Then the fun starts! The updater checked my system, and then proceeded to install a slew of applications (without my permission) which included Google Earth, Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Docs, Google Apps (Whatever that is), and since I have a fast computer, it did it all in less than half a minute. It would have installed Chrome, but I already had it. This is my work computer... I don't want all this crap in my machine! Last night, when my wife was trying to print her operative notes from that days surgery, we noticed the printer queue was damaged, so I rebooted. This morning, again, the printer queue is dead... documents appear in the queue, the disappear into the bit bucket, but no hard copy, no errors. This time a reboot did not fix it. What has Google done to my machine! Now I must spend several hours of my work day trying to fix it! Any suggestions would be appreciated. This note is a warning to everyone... deny the Google updater when it asks permission! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] M$ Kiss of Death for Yahoo
http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSN2951973320090730 Yahoo shares fell more than 12 percent during the trading day because investors felt they got a raw deal. This is Yahoo essentially giving up on search and deciding to ride on M$ coat tails from now on. This is also further distraction for M$ when it should be focusing on challenges to its operating system and office applications. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 29 Jul 2009 (#2009-709)
I will grant that you can argue this both ways. The way I remember it, version 5.0 was never more than a developer preview, 5.2 was the first true OS X version, and there were big differences in the rendering engine between versions. IE for mac was named the way it was because MS didn't want mac version numbers to get ahead of the windows numbering and appear to be more advanced as a result. On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: And you're using a .x version as a scale? That's almost honest. Version 5 for OS X was released in 2000. Support ended in 2005, 2 years after development ended, which was the result of a 1997 agreement between Apple and MS. Apple replaced IE with Safari. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OS X blackhat training
(Damn it, I didn't fix the subject: tag again. Sorry.) I will grant that you can argue this both ways. The way I remember it, version 5.0 was never more than a developer preview, 5.2 was the first true OS X version, and there were big differences in the rendering engine between versions. IE for mac was named the way it was because MS didn't want mac version numbers to get ahead of the windows numbering and appear to be more advanced as a result. On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: And you're using a .x version as a scale? That's almost honest. Version 5 for OS X was released in 2000. Support ended in 2005, 2 years after development ended, which was the result of a 1997 agreement between Apple and MS. Apple replaced IE with Safari. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] GMail issues
Finally, a confirmation that GMail is, yet again, failing its users. Of course, Google will not post any info on this new breakdown on their site so that users can ascertain why they are having problems. At least now, thanks to a third party, I know why I cannot use my browser to connect to GMail. Google’s Gmail email service suffers new problems http://tinyurl.com/n2tr4x * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GMail issues
Golly... Two WHOLE hours??? Sent from my iPod On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Steve Rigby phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, a confirmation that GMail is, yet again, failing its users. Of course, Google will not post any info on this new breakdown on their site so that users can ascertain why they are having problems. At least now, thanks to a third party, I know why I cannot use my browser to connect to GMail. Google’s Gmail email service suffers new problems http://tinyurl.com/n2tr4x *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] foreign
Ok.I'm getting usta keystroke combos for accented characters in French .but, they don't work in such things as dialog windows in browser pages, search boxes, and notepad .I have had2 resurrect WordPad to type the accented characters and then cut and paste into the boxes .I bought office 2007 ultimate and also the French language pack, but that doesn't help any of this.as a matter of fact, it is supposed to auto detect the language and spell-check appropriately, it doesn't work and keeps returning to the English dictionary for each word .then it switches finally to the French dictionary after quite a few words have been checked .then it works fine! .what a chore windows must be for anyone who isn't using English !! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
System Restore rolled my system back 2 days and fixed the problem... I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I shall get some lunch, and try to get some REAL work accomplished today! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GMail issues
This would have never happened if it were still in beta. Golly... Two WHOLE hours??? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] foreign
All of which is why you might consider a Mac in future. These are not problems on that platform. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] foreign To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:09 PM Ok.I'm getting usta keystroke combos for accented characters in French .but, they don't work in such things as dialog windows in browser pages, search boxes, and notepad .I have had2 resurrect WordPad to type the accented characters and then cut and paste into the boxes .I bought office 2007 ultimate and also the French language pack, but that doesn't help any of this.as a matter of fact, it is supposed to auto detect the language and spell-check appropriately, it doesn't work and keeps returning to the English dictionary for each word .then it switches finally to the French dictionary after quite a few words have been checked .then it works fine! .what a chore windows must be for anyone who isn't using English !! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] foreign
Mandated by Dick Cheney. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Ok.I'm getting usta keystroke combos for accented characters in French .but, they don't work in such things as dialog windows in browser pages, search boxes, and notepad .I have had2 resurrect WordPad to type the accented characters and then cut and paste into the boxes .I bought office 2007 ultimate and also the French language pack, but that doesn't help any of this.as a matter of fact, it is supposed to auto detect the language and spell-check appropriately, it doesn't work and keeps returning to the English dictionary for each word .then it switches finally to the French dictionary after quite a few words have been checked .then it works fine! .what a chore windows must be for anyone who isn't using English !! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. But I know it can sometimes be difficult to find all the settings. Google Apps is a way to deploy Google services among many employees. If you saw this installing, you made your mistake before this point. System Restore won't delete any apps you may have downloaded from Google. Google Docs isn't an app anyway - it's all online. You really don't need a screensaver these days anyway. Just set the monitor to power off after a while. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Brian Joneswjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote: System Restore rolled my system back 2 days and fixed the problem... I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I shall get some lunch, and try to get some REAL work accomplished today! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] GMail issues
As of 1:50 pm, EDT, GMail is suddenly just as inexplicably accessible by my browser as it became inaccessible yesterday. I'll see later if Google even so much as acknowledges that a problem existed in the first place and explains anything at all about it. I seriously doubt they will say anything. Maybe they have been in the process of installing monitoring devices for the NSA. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GMail issues
The article you quoted is dated March 10, 2009. Old news. FWIW, I haven't noticed any problems with the gmail web interface. And I have mine open in a Firefox tab all day long. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Steve Rigbyphartz...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, a confirmation that GMail is, yet again, failing its users. Of course, Google will not post any info on this new breakdown on their site so that users can ascertain why they are having problems. At least now, thanks to a third party, I know why I cannot use my browser to connect to GMail. Google’s Gmail email service suffers new problems http://tinyurl.com/n2tr4x * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GMail issues
Is the problem online only? Can you get your mail using POP or IMAP? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GMail issues
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:47 PM, b_s-wilkb1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Is the problem online only? Can you get your mail using POP or IMAP? I was able to use POP. That was the saving grace in the matter. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
Google Apps was installed by Google Updater along with all the other Google stuff... Google Updater was installed as a condition for installing Picasa 3. The updater should have asked, but did not. Immediately upon giving permission to install the updater, it began installing everything else... no settings, no questions. As a follow up, I went back to the Google page today where I clicked on Picasa 3. When I clicked on it, it appeared to have the correct install program associated with it, not the updater that I got yesterday. Could it have been a bad link that took me to the wrong software? - Original Message - From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. But I know it can sometimes be difficult to find all the settings. Google Apps is a way to deploy Google services among many employees. If you saw this installing, you made your mistake before this point. * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
At 01:33 PM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote: You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. This is exactly why I have locked down all the computers at the Senior Center. Users have nearly no permissions. I have all browsers opening to Google's home page, to make it easy for all the newbies to use the web. However, I don't need to spend days uninstalling things that they may innocently click on and download/install. I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. Since I've started this program, the repair shop across the street has gotten several new customers. :) I've convinced that shop that when these people bring their machines in to get them cleaned, they will install Firefox and then I teach them to use that instead of IE. It solves some of the problems. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
It probably just knew you already have updater installed, so it didn't
ask you again.
I just checked my main machine, and I have several Google products
like updater, Earth, Desktop Sidebar, Picasa 3, etc. installed, but no
Google Apps. So somewhere during the process I know it must have asked
me and I said 'no'. Or I'm just completely misunderstanding what Apps
is.
But, as Sue just pointed out, this isn't totally your fault. If you
think this was fun, wait until you install the next Flash update. Just
TRY to do it without installing iTunes! Or your next Java update,
which will do it's best to install [brainfart] something else. The
grand daddy of them all is {free} RealMedia, which to this day cannot
be safely installed by *computer experts*!
PS You MUST install all updates having to do with web browsing
*immediately*. This includes Flash and Java. Reason being - these days
that's the primary attack vector for malware (viruses).
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Brian Joneswjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote:
Google Apps was installed by Google Updater along with all the other Google
stuff... Google Updater was installed as a condition for installing Picasa
3. The updater should have asked, but did not. Immediately upon giving
permission to install the updater, it began installing everything else... no
settings, no questions.
As a follow up, I went back to the Google page today where I clicked on
Picasa 3. When I clicked on it, it appeared to have the correct install
program associated with it, not the updater that I got yesterday. Could it
have been a bad link that took me to the wrong software?
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Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue
That's for sure...I get my gmail in my outlook and I have many archives ...just yesterday I had to go get some tax records for 2007 ...easy as pie ...just looked in some archives and there it was ...saved my ...well, you know ...but really ...do you wanna trust google to store your stuff? ...sheesh!! -Original Message- From: Steve Rigby [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: Gmail issue I see on the Google Blog that others are having this current Unable to connect problem with GMail. This problem also surfaced back in March, in May and earlier in July, as well as numerous other times in the past. I'll just wait and be patient. This only causes a problem for using the browser to access my account. POP mail to and from GMail is still working fine. I am glad I set that up from the outset. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue
Yes, I trust Google to store my stuff. And Amazon. I may store other stuff with MS when they start offering the service. In a separate thread, please tell us about your own redundant backup strategy and why it's better than cloud storage. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM, rleesimonrleesi...@gmail.com wrote: That's for sure...I get my gmail in my outlook and I have many archives ...just yesterday I had to go get some tax records for 2007 ...easy as pie ...just looked in some archives and there it was ...saved my ...well, you know ...but really ...do you wanna trust google to store your stuff? ...sheesh!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue
On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:06 PM, rleesimon wrote: That's for sure...I get my gmail in my outlook and I have many archives ...just yesterday I had to go get some tax records for 2007 ...easy as pie ...just looked in some archives and there it was ...saved my ...well, you know ...but really ...do you wanna trust google to store your stuff? I would certainly trust Google more than Outlook. I frequently get calls about corrupt email database files and when those go it is highly probable that you can kiss your saved emails goodbye. Google may have a temporary slowdown or outage, but I don't know of anyone who has lost all their saved emails. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. Since I've started this program, the repair shop across the street has gotten several new customers. :) I've convinced that shop that when these people bring their machines in to get them cleaned, they will install Firefox and then I teach them to use that instead of IE. It solves some of the problems. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Macintosh. The Macs are far more resistant to this kind of pollution. They would be easier to lock down too, but that is generally unnecessary. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Brian Jones wrote: I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I recently had a service call where printing was disabled after a Patch Tuesday episode. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Kiss of Death for Yahoo
July 30 (Bloomberg) -- Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer said he’s surprised Yahoo! Inc. investors don’t like the companies’ Web-search agreement... http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=a.2QgfvGBYt8 He is kidding. Right? Must be. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
