Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
And Congress does not do this either? Stewart At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Star apps [was COMPUTERGUYS-L...]
Thanks for the info Mike, I'll tell my nephew about it. For anyone who wants to see these apps in action, here's some videos. For Star Walk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo-YbiU7Asw http://www.articlesbase.com/videos/5min/148091538 (These are for an older version. One noticeable difference is that Wikipedia entries for a an object are now called up within the app without leaving the sky view. ) For Sky Map: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6znyx0gjb4 http://www.5min.com/Video/Google-Sky-Map-for-Android-Phone-265015382 I think the Star Walk app might be nicer, but I don't know how current Sky Map is in those videos, and of course I have only had direct experience with Star Walk, and Google's app is free while Star Walk is $2.99. If you have a iPod Touch, you can get Star Walk, but since the Touch doesn't have a compass, Star Walk won't have the live sky view. You can still see your night sky in manual mode, etc. The app is still very much worth the $2.99 I spent on it. On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:11 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:Mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Apr 2010 to 8 Apr 2010 - Special issue (#2010-71) Google sky. Sent from my iPod On Apr 8, 2010, at 17:04, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Can you tell me where you got it so that I can suggest it to my nephew? I don't know why, but android apps aren't mentioned on Vito Technology's website and a google search didn't turn it up either. I'd bet that your app has link when you launch it or in the help files. I was looking for Star Walk. Possibly you have Google Sky Map or Pocket Universe, which I did turn up in my search. On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:07 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:Mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why I won't buy an Ipad... Very cool app, I have it on my android phone. Sent from my iPod * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
Of course Congress makes its decisions for political reasons! That's their job. Politicians are the ones who should be making law, not commissions. Politicians can be held accountable for their actions at election time. Stewart Marshall wrote: And Congress does not do this either? Stewart At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: 04/09/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
That part is true, but commissions many times have to interpret poorly or very vaguely written law (because politicians like to have it both ways. And I mean that in the worst sense.) It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way. The FCC is trying to make decisions in the public interest using vague and dual meaning laws meant to not accomplish much but get the pols elected again and again. Sometimes I would prefer to let a commissioner make a decision in my best interest because no one else would. Commissioners tend to be less invested in the decisions they make and less influenced by industry than the pols. Stewart At 05:33 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Of course Congress makes its decisions for political reasons! That's their job. Politicians are the ones who should be making law, not commissions. Politicians can be held accountable for their actions at election time. Stewart Marshall wrote: And Congress does not do this either? Stewart At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: 04/09/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way. There's an opinion piece in today's Post br Robert McDowell, who is an FCC commissioner. It is noteworthy that he was reappointed in June of last year, and was the first Republican to be so appointed to an independent agency by BHO. Unanimously confirmed by the Senate. Here's what he thinks: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/08/AR2010040803375.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
Not all political appointments are hacks, and not all are party hacks either side. This is why I would sometimes put my trust in them versus a guy I elect and lies to me. By the way how can you tell if a politician is lying to you? His mouth is open. (shameless old joke I know) Stewart At 08:48 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote: It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way. There's an opinion piece in today's Post br Robert McDowell, who is an FCC commissioner. It is noteworthy that he was reappointed in June of last year, and was the first Republican to be so appointed to an independent agency by BHO. Unanimously confirmed by the Senate. Here's what he thinks: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/08/AR2010040803375.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
