Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?
Not quite sure what your point is here, 1 suicide in a population of 300 is a suicide rate of 1/300 and 3 suicides in a population of 900 is still a rate of 1/300, etc. We were talking about suicide _rates_, not raw numbers, and as I said, densely populated areas have lower suicide rates than the less densely populated ones, generally speaking. The phenomenon is undisputed among social scientists, though they do argue over the causes. This isn't to say that there aren't regional and cultural variations, though, so that for example the map shows that a region in the central midwest and another one in the central south have higher suicide rates almost irrespective of population density. If your point with the numbers is the same as Donne's that any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind..., then I am entirely with you on that. The rural/urban divide is a recent phenomenon (historically speaking), by the way. Prior to the 70s, rural and urban suicide rates were approximately equal, but since then they have greatly increased in rural areas while mostly holding steady in urban areas. You might have been trying to make another point with your example, that if a population of 300 has an underlying suicide rate of 1/3000, then you would only expect one suicide every 10 years on average, but the year that a suicide occurs the measured rate is 10 times greater than it really is. This kind of measurement error is accounted for in the map data. If you want, I can explain the ways I see (I am not a demographer and this is really offtopic), but suffice it to say that demographers know about this kind of measurement error and how to account for it. On May 1, 2010, at 6:39 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: illegal search warrant? Actually I was half right. Note the fine print of the map: Based on death data from 2000 through 2006, this US map of the smoothed, county-level, age-adjusted suicide rates indicate that suicide rates are highest in the western and northwestern regions of the United States. There is also a notable pattern of high suicide rates among counties in the central areas of the midwest and southern regions and in central Florida. They may be lower in density but they are not the norm. The areas I was most familiar with (upper midwest) showed a lower suicide rate. Also statistics can be misleading. 1 suicide in an area of 300 is 1/300 of the population but it is still one. 10 suicides in a area of 10,000 is 1/1,000. Not as large a statistical number but it is in reality over 3 times as many suicides. I have dealt with the aftermath of suicide and it is never a fun topic nor easy to explain. Many things go into it. Stewart At 10:09 PM 4/30/2010, you wrote: Actually, the holiday suicide idea is a media-perpetuated falsehood: http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/suicide.asp And I posted about this yesterday, but somehow the post didn't make it to the list: Stewart was wrong about suicide increasing with population density. It's exactly the opposite. Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey and DC are among the most densely populated states and have some of the lowest suicide rates, while Alaska, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana have some of the higher rates and are among the least densely populated. If you want to see it visually by county, look at the two maps here of the suicide rate and population density: http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/suicide_map.html http://www.mapofusa.net/us-population-density-map.htm You'll see a very good correspondence between low population density and high suicide rates or between high population density and low suicide rates. And it's not just the US, it seems to be a worldwide phenomenon: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10398page=36 In China, the contrast between the rural and urban suicide rates is particularly extreme. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] XP -- indexing of external USB hard / flash drives
How does one turn off *absolutely* (or so that it only occurs on demand, and never by default) the process that starts indexing any USB-attached external hard drive or flash drive in Windows XP? It is never useful to me; I am always looking for an explicit file that I know how to find, or I'm running a backup to that drive with third-party backup software. I suspect that this automated indexing (which presumably might proceed to automatically launching files) is the process that allows viruses to propagate on flash drives that are moved from one computer to another? Thanks, Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Yes, I'm playing a little fast with the 50% remark but this area of margins has been talked about in articles many times, here is one. The PC vendors typically have much much smaller margins due to competition amongst themselves. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/05/09/22/a_look_inside_the_ipod_nano_and_apples_margins.html On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/02/01/apple-ipad-to-deliver-50-margin-says-analyst/tab/article/ On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Okay, but that reference is for iPods and is a year old. You were talking about PCs. Why are you crossing devices to compare? The iPod actually took so much market share competing with its rivals that many of them are gone or marginal. Your assertion is as suspect as your method. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Yes, I'm playing a little fast with the 50% remark but this area of margins has been talked about in articles many times, here is one. The PC vendors typically have much much smaller margins due to competition amongst themselves. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/05/09/22/a_look_inside_the_ipod_nan o_and_apples_margins.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Sorry for the double post, forgot the URL. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcpop.com%2Fdoc%2F0%2F527%2F527783.shtmlsl=zh-CNtl=enhl=ie=UTF-8 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad, it's about 300 bux. The biggest benefit of course for the iPad is the app store, makes entering this market near impossible for anyone. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad, it's about 300 bux. The biggest benefit of course for the iPad is the app store, makes entering this market near impossible for anyone. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Tough competition... Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after the touch-screen tablet computers went on sale in the U.S. Demand is such that consumers looking to purchase one of the devices face wait times of up to a week or more. http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224700471 iPad Sales Top One Million -- InformationWeek * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Weird...I walked into an Apple store and saw them ready for buying. And yes..almost impossible competition. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:50 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tough competition... Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after the touch-screen tablet computers went on sale in the U.S. Demand is such that consumers looking to purchase one of the devices face wait times of up to a week or more. http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224700471 iPad Sales Top One Million -- InformationWeek * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/an_antitrust_app_buvCWcJdjFoLD5vBSkguGO I was hoping Apple wouldn't get a pass on this deal, this control issue Apple has is BS from top to bottom. If MS did something like this we'd never hear the end of it, virtual silence since Apple implemented this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What's next? Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery in a few months. Anybody want to wager on that? (On a side note, what't up with that name? I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you don't want the word crunch associated with breakable electronics, but JooJoo simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad movie theater candy.) I think that they were aiming at the Urban Dictionaries Definition 3 but Definition 1 is a bad double meaning. Definitions 2 and 4 are Crunch pad related. 1. http://joojoo.urbanup.com/600438 joojoo http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=joojoodefid=600438 karma. bad luck. it's bad joojoo to speak ill of others. 3. http://joojoo.urbanup.com/4421039 joojoo Joojoo means magic. Often used in conjunction with the word bad to refer to a thing or situation that might bring bad luck or bad karma, but things can have good joojoo too. Hey man, don't use that white lighter, that's bad joojoo! or Take this ring, its joojoo will protect you. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joojoo -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned. And today M$ announced that they agree. http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice. Flash is a successful business for Adobe, and we can understand why they want to push it beyond PCs. But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short... Flash is no longer necessary... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App
The iPhone is now the top selling phone in the US. That is certainly going to get Apple a kind of legal attention it never had before. However, I expect that after Apple is finished explaining its actions the Feds will agree that Apple's actions are reasonable and not anti- competitive. Apple is not stopping anyone from developing for their products, they are just enforcing quality standards. There is a big difference between that and the stuff M$ used to do. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]
I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. Is there anything I can do to improve the likelihood that my posts are received and on time? I'm willing to switch to another email account if it will help. On May 3, 2010, at 9:47 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegal search warrant? Not quite sure what your point is here, etc., etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App
This has zero to do with enforcing quality. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The iPhone is now the top selling phone in the US. That is certainly going to get Apple a kind of legal attention it never had before. However, I expect that after Apple is finished explaining its actions the Feds will agree that Apple's actions are reasonable and not anti-competitive. Apple is not stopping anyone from developing for their products, they are just enforcing quality standards. There is a big difference between that and the stuff M$ used to do. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Pennsylvania webcam spying
A just-released report into the Webcamgate scandal has found that Lower Merion School District officials knew that Harriton High School sophomore Blake Robbins had taken his school-issued laptop home. Yet, they decided in October 2009 to activate a controversial program that secretly captured hundreds of webcam photos and screenshots – included pictures of Robbins sleeping and partially undressed, a photo of his father, and images of instant messages and photos of friends with whom Robbins was video-chatting. The TheftTrack feature was supposed to have been used only when a student's school-issued Apple MacBook was reported lost or stolen. Now currently online at home, one school-district technician e-mailed another after the program was activated on Robbins' computer. The report, released tonight, was compiled by the Ballard Spahr law firm and a computer-forensics firm at the request of the school district. Investigators recovered 57,992 webcam images and screenshots – many of them captured by students' laptops even after they had been found. The district discontinued the controversial practice after Robbins and his family filed an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit in February, claiming that officials used the Peeping Tom technology to spy on students inside their homes. The report found no evidence that officials used the feature to intentionally spy on students, but said the district's overzealous information-systems staff repeatedly activated the program without any apparent regard for privacy considerations or sufficient consultation with administrators. +++ The above is from Philly.com news. That last paragraph seems to me to represent a distinction without a difference. If this does not get anyone upset about abuse of power and authority by way of computer, then I would have to suppose that not much else will. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Pennsylvania webcam spying
As said on first blush, this had nothing to do with security or getting a laptop back and more about control and voyeurism. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:43 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: A just-released report into the Webcamgate scandal has found that Lower Merion School District officials knew that Harriton High School sophomore Blake Robbins had taken his school-issued laptop home. Yet, they decided in October 2009 to activate a controversial program that secretly captured hundreds of webcam photos and screenshots – included pictures of Robbins sleeping and partially undressed, a photo of his father, and images of instant messages and photos of friends with whom Robbins was video-chatting. The TheftTrack feature was supposed to have been used only when a student's school-issued Apple MacBook was reported lost or stolen. Now currently online at home, one school-district technician e-mailed another after the program was activated on Robbins' computer. The report, released tonight, was compiled by the Ballard Spahr law firm and a computer-forensics firm at the request of the school district. Investigators recovered 57,992 webcam images and screenshots – many of them captured by students' laptops even after they had been found. The district discontinued the controversial practice after Robbins and his family filed an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit in February, claiming that officials used the Peeping Tom technology to spy on students inside their homes. The report found no evidence that officials used the feature to intentionally spy on students, but said the district's overzealous information-systems staff repeatedly activated the program without any apparent regard for privacy considerations or sufficient consultation with administrators. +++ The above is from Philly.com news. That last paragraph seems to me to represent a distinction without a difference. If this does not get anyone upset about abuse of power and authority by way of computer, then I would have to suppose that not much else will. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Furthermore, it's something I should have known, since my son was very fond of the Tak video games and Nickelodeon series, Tak and the power of Juju. Just about all the jujus in the series were ridiculous in pretty gross ways, that can't help the JooJoo's marketing any, either. I still think of jujubes when I hear the name, though. From:John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com Subject: Re: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What's next? Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery in a few months. Anybody want to wager on that? (On a side note, what't up with that name? I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you don't want the word crunch associated with breakable electronics, but JooJoo simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad movie theater candy.) I think that they were aiming at the Urban Dictionaries Definition 3 but Definition 1 is a bad double meaning. Definitions 2 and 4 are Crunch pad related. 1. http://joojoo.urbanup.com/600438 joojoo http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=joojoodefid=600438 karma. bad luck. it's bad joojoo to speak ill of others. 3. http://joojoo.urbanup.com/4421039 joojoo Joojoo means magic. Often used in conjunction with the word bad to refer to a thing or situation that might bring bad luck or bad karma, but things can have good joojoo too. Hey man, don't use that white lighter, that's bad joojoo! or Take this ring, its joojoo will protect you. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joojoo -- John Duncan Yoyo * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
While most agree flash is a PITA to develop for etc, here is another view. http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Steve-Jobs-Thoughts-on-Flash-is-just-smoke/1272565882 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:25 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned. And today M$ announced that they agree. http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice. Flash is a successful business for Adobe, and we can understand why they want to push it beyond PCs. But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short... Flash is no longer necessary... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]
I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. It seems to be an inconsistent delay. I'll usually see them all eventually, but it's disconcerting to see replies quoted to a post that's a reply to a post I made! And then I don't see the original reply until a day later. Luckily I've been watching Dr Who for years, so I can deal with this. But this is definitely unusual, normally this list is pretty snappy and close to real time for everyone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:25 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned. And today M$ announced that they agree. http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice. Flash is a successful business for Adobe, and we can understand why they want to push it beyond PCs. But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short... Flash is no longer necessary... Necessary? I dunno what that really means. While Flash may not be the most modern, neither is gasoline for automobiles. Flash is a current standard, be it the best or not. There are a lot of things is this world that fit the same situation...pencils, for instance. USB. VHS for video tape. White toilet paper. I don't love Flash, but I don't hate it either. A better alternative may be quite suitable, but I am not about to get my knickers in a knot over this debate. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash
On May 3, 2010, at 10:41 PM, mike wrote: While most agree flash is a PITA to develop for etc, here is another view. The reader comments were more insightful than the blogger's own... If you compare Flash and HTML5 then HTML5 wins every time so why bother supporting old technology, it just encourages people to be lazy. Like Jobs says, if you have to rewrite your Flash application for a touchscreen you might as well rewrite it for HTML5. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]
On May 3, 2010, at 10:11 PM, David K Watson wrote: I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. Your email moved quickly from server to server except for one hop: lserv-m02.elist.aol.com got it Sun, 2 May 2010 13:10:14 but did not pass it on to COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM until Mon, 3 May 2010 05:24:49. Received: from lsvsm-m02.elist.aol.com (lsvsm-m02.elist.aol.com [64.12.187.202]) by mx.perfora.net (node=mxus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MILd1-1O5IJQ1aAR-003qK9 for t...@tjpa.com; Mon, 03 May 2010 05:32:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM (lserv-m02.elist.aol.com [64.12.95.91]) by lsvsm-m02.elist.aol.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o439Rxx0007460; Mon, 3 May 2010 05:28:41 -0400 Received: by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.5) with spool id 227872871 for COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM; Mon, 3 May 2010 05:24:49 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f47.google.com (mail-vw0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by lserv-m02.elist.aol.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o42HAEio026738 for COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com; Sun, 2 May 2010 13:10:14 -0400 Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so863863vws.6 for COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com ; Sun, 02 May 2010 10:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.95 with SMTP id o31mr9687288vcr. 23.1272820213829; Sun, 02 May 2010 10:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-173-72-105-176.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net [173.72.105.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z22sm19531734vco.10.2010.05.02.10.10.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 May 2010 10:10:13 -0700 (PDT) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
