Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-06 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:13 AM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Safari tries so hard to be W3C compatible that it doesn't take into  
account that most web sites, big and small, are not.


Anarchy on the Web is not a good thing. Poorly coded web sites should  
not be given a free ride. The junk code generated by various M$  
products holds everybody back. It is a huge waste of time that would  
be better spend on improving the browsers.



I'm getting tired of XML not working right.


I'm just tired of XML. It was a bad idea. A modern web site would not  
use XML.





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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-06 Thread Jordan

TPiwowar wrote:

On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:57 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Safari sucks. Use Firefox or SeaMonkey.


Some people get really bent out of shape about Safari, but Safari is 
innovating while others are not. While others boast of W3C 
compatibility, Safari is not only the first to achieve that, it also 
pushes W3C to get off their asses and add features that make the Web a 
better place.


http://www.apple.com/safari/what-is.html

Opera is interesting too for similar reasons. It is also great for 
downloading files that give others problems.


It is nice to have choices and enjoy them.

Yes, having the choice is cool. There is a weather site that I use 
extensively. (wunderground.com) For years I've had 1 browser on my 
computer dedicated to showing the 5+ tabs I have open all the time. I 
love the Mozilla browsers but most of the tabs I have open are 
continually updated and, over a period of time, the browser will require 
more and more cpu cycles, and I'll have to shut it down. Safari uses a 
minimum of power to display these very active tabs, and displays them 
properly.

Nice!


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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-06 Thread MrMike6by9
HUH? My problem IS a Firefox issue 

 Subject: Re: A Computer Question ... Horrors!

 Safari sucks. Use Firefox or SeaMonkey.

  I've have MacBookPro Ver 1.1 about 3½ years old. A friend just got a
current
  gen 17 MPB. I still use a Vista machine that has a hardware printer. On
my
  bank's website, a print request generates a *.aspx file for open with
  application or save file as dialog when using Firefox on both MBPs.
On my
  Vista box (using Firefox or Chrome) and when either MBP uses Safari, the
  bank site brings up the preferred print/save as PDF dialog. Can anyone
  suggest how to modify FF's behavior on the MBP's to access the same
dialog?



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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-06 Thread David K Watson

Safari does use site-specific hacks that you can turn off or on under
the Develop menu (which you can show or hide in the advanced
preferences).  Is it possible that you have these hacks turned off?
If not, can you give us an example of a site that Safari doesn't
render very well?  I view a fairly wide variety of websites, and I
really don't remember seeing any that don't render properly with
Safari 4.



From:b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es

Safari tries so hard to be W3C compatible that it doesn't take into
account that most web sites, big and small, are not. I'm getting tired
of XML not working right. It's annoying. Safari should be written to
take into consideration all of the billions of exceptions, instead of
the few W3C compatible sites. Not enough pref choices either.

Opera is better. Wish iCab would get finished.




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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-05 Thread b_s-wilk

Safari sucks. Use Firefox or SeaMonkey.


I've have MacBookPro Ver 1.1 about 3½ years old. A friend just got a current
gen 17 MPB. I still use a Vista machine that has a hardware printer. On my
bank's website, a print request generates a *.aspx file for open with
application or save file as dialog when using Firefox on both MBPs. On my
Vista box (using Firefox or Chrome) and when either MBP uses Safari, the
bank site brings up the preferred print/save as PDF dialog. Can anyone
suggest how to modify FF's behavior on the MBP's to access the same dialog?



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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:57 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Safari sucks. Use Firefox or SeaMonkey.


Some people get really bent out of shape about Safari, but Safari is  
innovating while others are not. While others boast of W3C  
compatibility, Safari is not only the first to achieve that, it also  
pushes W3C to get off their asses and add features that make the Web  
a better place.


http://www.apple.com/safari/what-is.html

Opera is interesting too for similar reasons. It is also great for  
downloading files that give others problems.


It is nice to have choices and enjoy them.




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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-05 Thread b_s-wilk

On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:57 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Safari sucks. Use Firefox or SeaMonkey.

Some people get really bent out of shape about Safari, but Safari is
innovating while others are not. While others boast of W3C
compatibility, Safari is not only the first to achieve that, it also
pushes W3C to get off their asses and add features that make the Web
a better place.



Safari tries so hard to be W3C compatible that it doesn't take into 
account that most web sites, big and small, are not. I'm getting tired 
of XML not working right. It's annoying. Safari should be written to 
take into consideration all of the billions of exceptions, instead of 
the few W3C compatible sites. Not enough pref choices either.


Opera is better. Wish iCab would get finished.


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[CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-04 Thread MrMike6by9
I've have MacBookPro Ver 1.1 about 3½ years old. A friend just got a current
gen 17 MPB. I still use a Vista machine that has a hardware printer. On my
bank's website, a print request generates a *.aspx file for open with
application or save file as dialog when using Firefox on both MBPs. On my
Vista box (using Firefox or Chrome) and when either MBP uses Safari, the
bank site brings up the preferred print/save as PDF dialog. Can anyone
suggest how to modify FF's behavior on the MBP's to access the same dialog?

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Re: [CGUYS] A Computer Question ... Horrors!

2009-08-04 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:30 AM, MrMike6by9 wrote:
I've have MacBookPro Ver 1.1 about 3½ years old. A friend just got  
a current
gen 17 MPB. I still use a Vista machine that has a hardware  
printer. On my

bank's website, a print request generates a *.aspx file for open with
application or save file as dialog when using Firefox on both MBPs.


I have seen similar. ASP means it is an bletcherous M$ site full of  
buglets like this one. Try changing the file extension to .pdf and  
see if you can open and print in via Preview. Works for me. YMMV.





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